dalter, my question to you is why would Team A get more tired than Team B who has also taking the same amount of shots?
12/27/2009 12:03 PM
Quote: Originally posted by thewizard2 on 12/27/2009dalter, what you said makes 100% sense. Hypothetically:

Team A gets 45 shots off, running slow down.
Team A gets 60 shots off, running average tempo.
Team A gets 75 shots off, running uptempo.

You said players get more tired with a higher # of possessions. But keep in mind, the other team also has to get the same number of possessions, despite what tempo they're playing.

So if Team A is running uptempo, they get 75 shots off, then assuming everything is equal Team B also has to get 75 shots off. But according to what you're saying Team A is getting more tired than Team B, because they are running uptempo.

Did you read any of my posts last night? Apparently not because I addressed this very issue numerous times.
12/27/2009 12:16 PM
Yes, I understand.

Dalter said they do get tired running uptempo. However, you said there is no where it says they get tired from running uptempo.

So you're saying there is no tiredness factor? If so, what do they mean by needing more conditioning? It says you need more conditioning by running uptempo.
12/27/2009 12:24 PM
Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 12/27/2009
Second, what you have brought to the table says that a team that is going to play uptempo needs to have greater conditioning in general, never does it state that in the same game a team running uptempo will have to have a greater conditioning then a team (in the same game) running slowdown.

This might be the part you need to explain, probably where the confusion is taking place.
12/27/2009 12:27 PM
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12/27/2009 12:35 PM
Exactly, you are taking something that goes to apply to all games (a team that plays uptempo all season) and trying to apply it to a given game with two teams running different tempos.

Nowhere does it say "In a given game when one team plays uptempo and another plays normal, the team playing uptempo needs to be better conditioned."
12/27/2009 12:41 PM
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12/27/2009 12:42 PM
Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 12/27/2009

Nowhere does it say "In a given game when one team plays uptempo and another plays normal, the team playing uptempo needs to be better conditioned."

It says it right here, unless you're saying the FAQ's are wrong. It's right there in black and white, the faster the tempo, the quicker you'll be shooting AND the more conditioning your players will require

Q: How does tempo affect the game?
A: The tempo refers to the speed at which you want your offense to run. The faster the tempo, the quicker you'll be shooting and the more conditioning your players will require.

Now dalter said the FAQ are incorrect, so you're saying this is not valid at all?
12/27/2009 12:48 PM
It means it woudl need more stamina than if it was running something other than uptempo: A team running uptempo will have more posessions ion the game its playing, both it and its opponent, than it would were it playing the same opponent playing the same tempo while playing normal or slowdown itself. So a team does need more stamina to play uptempo than to play a slower tempo.

12/27/2009 12:48 PM
I'm assuming we are at the point where we are in agreement that running uptempo is not fastbreak and doesn't have anything to do with how fast they bring the ball upcourt. We are at least past that obstacle.
12/27/2009 12:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by thewizard2 on 12/27/2009
Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 12/27/2009
Nowhere does it say "In a given game when one team plays uptempo and another plays normal, the team playing uptempo needs to be better conditioned."
It says it right here, unless you're saying the FAQ's are wrong. It's right there in black and white, the faster the tempo, the quicker you'll be shooting AND the more conditioning your players will require

Q: How does tempo affect the game?
A: The tempo refers to the speed at which you want your offense to run. The faster the tempo, the quicker you'll be shooting and the more conditioning your players will require.

Now dalter said the FAQ are incorrect, so you're saying this is not valid at all?

No that is completely accurate you are just misunderstanding it and applying it in a way it is not meant to be used.
12/27/2009 12:52 PM
Wiz, if there are more possessions in a given game, then yes, the other team running normal would also get more tired. It's more total possessions, not just possessions by your team.
12/27/2009 12:53 PM
We agree on the "quicker you'll be shooting" idea.

I'm not sure you've explained the "more conditioning your players will require" part.

Dalter says the FAQ's are incorrect. He also states that running uptempo does get you tired. Are you in agreement or disagreement with this?
12/27/2009 12:57 PM
Quote: Originally posted by a_in_the_b on 12/27/2009It means it woudl need more stamina than if it was running something other than uptempo:  A team running uptempo will have more posessions ion the game its playing, both it and its opponent, than it would were it playing the same opponent playing the same tempo while playing normal or slowdown itself.  So a team does need more stamina to play uptempo than to play a slower tempo. 
12/27/2009 1:01 PM
Quote: Originally posted by dalter on 12/27/2009Wiz, if there are more possessions in a given game, then yes, the other team running normal would also get more tired. It's more total possessions, not just possessions by your team.

Now we're getting somewhere....whew!lol

So you agree with this statement, zhawks?
12/27/2009 1:08 PM
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