I have guys with much better ratings that get absolutely hammered.
1/29/2010 7:53 PM
yeah nickel's performance is surprising to say the least, but something must be working, have you had the same catcher the whole time? maybe he works well with that catcher?
1/29/2010 8:55 PM
Yeah silly me trying to break down an online baseball game to numbers...

play it according to your gut , that's the way to success
1/29/2010 9:16 PM
you still have never given any reason not to play the guy who is over acheiving a few extra games until he stops, what is the beneifit of not playing the hot player if he is playing better than the better rated guy anyway?
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1/30/2010 2:11 AM
the inferior player will have to play eventually ( unless you have a team full of ironmen) so why not play him while he is playing well, so your superior players can play when he starts playing the way you would expect him to? I think everyone undertands your point , we are not saying the inferior player is better and he will end the season with 600 AB's and the better player will not see much action, all we are saying is why not play the inferior player an extra couple games while he is doing well to rest the starter for later.
1/30/2010 3:08 AM
schuyler, I posted your sub .500 record so anyone reading this thread would understand that you're not some HBD savant. People, including n00bs, read these threads for help. Threads like this. When someone is adamant that they're right, some people(like n00bs) may take it as gospel. I hoped to prevent that.

FYI, I don't think I presented an opinion on this particular matter. Dig around if you'd like.

Lastly, and FWIW, I tend to agree with you. However, I'm willing to accept that I may be misreading/misunderstanding ratings and how they're working under this version of the game engine. So, if I have a player who is overplaying my understanding of the ratings, I let him play til he proves me right.
1/30/2010 4:37 AM
One of my favorite AAA players wants a massive ML contract. I dont think he's worth the 4.7 mil- 4 year deal he wants... but I dont want to let him walk. His ratings are decent, not sure if they're big league worthy ( Id link him if I knew how ). What would you do in this situation?
1/30/2010 9:38 AM
Well, if you don't want to hand out the money, let him walk. Pick him up later, and cheaper, if he's still available.
1/30/2010 9:50 AM
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 1/30/2010schuyler, I posted your sub .500 record so anyone reading this thread would understand that you're not some HBD savant.   People, including n00bs, read these threads for help.  Threads like this.  When someone is adamant that they're right, some people(like n00bs) may take it as gospel.  I hoped to prevent that.FYI, I don't think I presented an opinion on this particular matter.   Dig around if you'd like.Lastly, and FWIW, I tend to agree with you.   However, I'm willing to accept that I may be misreading/misunderstanding ratings and how they're working under this version of the game engine.   So, if I have a player who is overplaying my understanding of the ratings, I let him play til he proves me right.

"(unless we're misjudging the ratings but for simplicity's sake let's just say we have identical players except for the better rated player having better contact/splits/power and eye.)"

This is from my last post...

I'm trying to be very clear that I am not talking about misjudging ratings here, one would need to be an HBD savant to be able to do that with 100% accuracy.

1/30/2010 12:54 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By schuyler101 on 1/29/2010Yeah silly me trying to break down an online baseball game to numbers...

play it according to your gut , that's the way to succes
What would you know about success??

Hardball Dynasty

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Record: 1052-1054
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1/30/2010 12:56 PM
Quote: Originally posted by pirateswin2 on 1/30/2010the inferior player will have to play eventually  ( unless you have a team full of ironmen) so why not play him while he is playing well, so your superior players can play when he starts playing the way you would expect him to? I think everyone undertands your point , we are not saying the inferior player is better and he will end the season with 600 AB's and the better player will not see much action, all we are saying is why not play the inferior player an extra couple games while he is doing well to rest the starter for later.

Rest is one thing. . I'm trying to get to people utilizing pitchers more often than superior ones because they're "hot", or batting a guy leadoff ahead of better options because he is "hot". You can't know going forward what a guy will do. There is no "while he is doing well," your inferior player's AM game has nothing to with what he'll do in the PM game.
1/30/2010 12:58 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By schuyler101 on 1/30/2010
Quote: Originally posted by pirateswin2 on 1/29/2010you still have never given any reason not to play the guy who is over acheiving a few extra games until he stops, what is the beneifit of not playing the hot player if he is playing better than the better rated guy anyway?[/QUOTE]
because going forward there is no reason to think the overchiever is more likely to continue to outperform the better rated player (unless we're misjudging the ratings but for simplicity's sake let's just say we have identical players except for the better rated player having better contact/splits/power and eye.) At bats for a player are independent events and admin has stated there are no "hot streaks".

When does the "hot streak" end? All we can do is try to determine what is most likely to happen next when setting our lineup or rotation. If (as admin has stated) there are no hot streaks then why choose a player with inferior ratings?

My coin flipping analogy still stands. If you flip 6 heads in a row and you know that the coin isn't rigged (in the analogy this is admin saying there are no hot streaks) then would you bet a dollar to win .50 that the next flip will be heads? No and you'd be foolish to.

Not that I believe in these streaks anyway but to someone that does can't it also be argued that you're overachiever is "due" to come back down to earth and will underperform going forward? Or the underachiever is "due" to start performing great...

PS I love MikeT's little trick of posting someone's record in an ad hominem attack if he doesn't like what they have to say. Don't attack the argument, attack the person! I think this is the 3rd time he's posted my record because I disagreed with him..
You're forcing me to agree with the troll, and that's ******* me off....

How can you claim to know that a certain player is better than another, except by performance?

Sure, one can assume that certain ratings will make a player better, but that doesn't always mean that he will be better.

Unless you are one of the programmers/developers... don't pretend to know everything about a game.
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