I'm merely saying that BEFORE you went Uptempo the Teams Combined were not scoring 30 in a Minute.

  IQ played a role in the Fouls.  Stupid players make Stupid Fouls, along with not being in position and such adding more fouls.  

  The Players on one Team were stupid the entire Game, thus a ton of Fouls for the Entire Game.  The 30 in a Minute was a result of Uptempo and a freaky hot Shooting Team, along with FTs adding Points with no clock running on the other end.

  While I agree that this is pretty outrageous, I can see where the Engine can take Low IQs and Below Average Defense and produce a ton of Fouls.  I can also see, when your team was coming from behind, they would Foul to get the ball back (scoring increased due to this because the other Team was hitting the Free Throws).  The thing that REALLY set it over the edge was your very hot shooting during that stretch.  You were hitting pretty much EVERYTHING, and getting down court very quickly.  

  Not sure HOW you were hitting all those shots (great Scoring team, bad defense team, really high IQs to know what to do???) but basically the Sun and Moon aligned and some factors contributed to this result.  We've seen some samples that come realitively close to this, but no one has ever been so on fire as your guys down the stretch to put up 30 in a Minute between two teams.  Now, Imagine if the Spurs had been draining shots while McGrady was going off for 14 or whatever in 33 Seconds... THAT might have been a 30 in a Minute type of deal.  USUALLY in these situations a team goes Cold, either on the Strip or from the Field... in this case NEITHER happened as both teams just wouldn't miss.

  Instead of being upset about the outcome, realize this and accept it for what it is.  This was a truely UNIQUE situation that played out in Dramatic Fashion.  You'll never again have a team shooting THIS HOT down the Stretch to repeat this, and if you do the other team won't hit all those FTs or will be Smart Enough or Defend Better so as to force some Turnovers and everything will be different.

  This was a truly amazing game, an anomoly, and that should be rejoiced (like it would be in real life).  These things DO Happen, they just happened in a major Extreme this time.  Isn't that what Outliers are all about?

  Also, if both teams went 'uptempo' the entire game, don't you think your guys would have been to tired to hit those shots down the Stretch, even against a dead defense?  Had both played Uptemp the entire game, as you said, most of the Starters and Valuable Subs would have been gone, and then the game would have REALLY been sloppy, and this ending likely doesn't happen.  Changing One Thing... changes EVERYTHING.

I'm upset because I had a fairly large on-court ratings advantage and run 10-deep.  I think FCP is too strong.  I think I had a huge matchup advantage at PG that was somehow, throughout the melee, not exploited despite everyone else scoring like points were going out of style.  I don't have any problem saying I shouldn't have scored 18 points in the final minute.  That was ridiculous.  I think it's ridiculous to look at the ratings, look at the offenses/defenses, look at the tempo prior to the final minute, and think that the result (more so how I lost, not that I lost) makes sense.  Just my opinion, and usually I'm open to someone explaining why a game simmed the way it did, but that's the way it is.

Isaiah Thomas scored 16 points in 94 seconds.  In that time span, the score went from 98-104 to 114-114 ... that is 26 total points in 94 seconds.

Isaiah scores 16 points in 94 seconds

My only point is that it is in the realm of possibility.

So, in the history of basketball, the best you can find is 4 less points in 50% more time.

Not even close.

Look ... It is close.  Especially when you take the anomalies into account.

His team continued to play FCP in the final minute.  He should have shifted to a different defense.  Because he was playing FCP, he fouled you in the back court several times to stop the clock.  If he is playing any other defense, he does not foul you 4 times in the back court.

If the team ahead in this case continues to play the a FCP and stops the clock 4 times, then yes, 94 seconds can easily become 60 seconds.

It was fewer points in 57% more time.

Spin it how you like, but that's not close.

Posted by dalter on 6/24/2010 11:56:00 PM (view original):
It was fewer points in 57% more time.

Spin it how you like, but that's not close.

OK ... lets just say that it took you 5 seconds of extra time only on the 4 fouls he made in the back court.  That one thing, by itself, would have turned the 60 seconds into 80 seconds.  And, if playing a real defense to stop outside shots (which you should do), you are not hitting every 3.

If he does not make 4 back court fouls in the final minute, the outcome is not even close to this.

It is NOT the engine's fault that the coaches are telling it to do stupid things.

So, what you're saying is, in the entire history of basketball - NBA, college, high school, rec league, or 55 and over leagues - you can't find it happening once.

Posted by isack24 on 6/25/2010 12:15:00 AM (view original):
So, what you're saying is, in the entire history of basketball - NBA, college, high school, rec league, or 55 and over leagues - you can't find it happening once.

If you can't see why it happened, then I can't help you.

People do not play that way, it won't happen.  If people did play that way it would.

Do you not see that?

You can't cite real life stats to prove why the engine is working properly and then, when you can't find stats to support your position, claim that because teams don't play in real life the way they do in HD, real life examples don't matter.

You can't have it both ways.

OK, you win.

I will not post any more on the pity parties.

I take it that you see my point but are too immature to admit you're wrong - something I've never seen you do.

Less points in a lot more time is not close. There are many, many reasons why this hasn't happened in RL and therefore will "probably" never happen.