President Obama and the Election of 2012 Topic

Hehe...you've been watching too much Fox News.  How bout instead of babbling about parrots...you explain how not letting any financial/retail entity fail is an example of capitalism or a free market.
7/7/2011 11:03 AM
Posted by rcrusso on 7/7/2011 9:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/7/2011 5:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 7/6/2011 6:19:00 PM (view original):
You got that right. True capitalism requires competition and we got rid of that decades ago.
That is a lie. We have more competition today than ever.

In 1957 if you wanted to watch a movie you went to a local theater with one picture showing.

Today you have Cable TV, Satelitte, internet, netflix, blockbuster, and multiple theaters with multiple screens and a theater that runs older movies for a dollar.

Most owned by the same or related corporation. What is it about the concept of competition you do not understand swamp?
This is the greatest myth of all. The Corporate illuminatti myth.

The number of Corporations that matter is smaller, they did some consolodation.

These corporations are viciously competitive against each other. Their entire profit structure is based on beating their enemies, not on screwing the middle class. They need a middle class to continue making profits for the next century.

The truth does not matter to the left. They will keep selling that "Corporations" are united to screw you, no matter how illogical that argument may be!
7/7/2011 12:43 PM
Posted by The Taint on 7/7/2011 11:03:00 AM (view original):
Hehe...you've been watching too much Fox News.  How bout instead of babbling about parrots...you explain how not letting any financial/retail entity fail is an example of capitalism or a free market.
That isn't my point.   My point was you felt a good response was a simple talking point from the left.   IOW, your contribution was parroting something you heard on the TV/radio. 

FWIW, I'm fine with letting companies fail.    I think we saw what happened with the economy when they started to fail but maybe that's what was needed.
7/7/2011 1:00 PM
Actually I didn't realize that that was some huge talking point for anyone. It's just common sense and Econ 101. I certainly don't remember reading anything in particular about it and it certainly doesn't rank up there with abortion, guns, and socialism as talking points.

If that's some lefty talking point, I missed the memo. Who's been talking it up?
7/7/2011 1:17 PM
Posted by The Taint on 7/7/2011 11:03:00 AM (view original):
Hehe...you've been watching too much Fox News.  How bout instead of babbling about parrots...you explain how not letting any financial/retail entity fail is an example of capitalism or a free market.
It of course isnt.

What it is an example of is when we allow the government to control aspects of the economy sometimes they need to fix their mess.

And the idea of spreading the pain a little isnt a free market idea, but isnt always harmful.

The Tarp was a measured response that mostly was payed back and didnt interfere with the flow of capital. The Auto bailout was also short term and fairly successful.
7/7/2011 1:39 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/7/2011 12:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 7/7/2011 9:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/7/2011 5:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 7/6/2011 6:19:00 PM (view original):
You got that right. True capitalism requires competition and we got rid of that decades ago.
That is a lie. We have more competition today than ever.

In 1957 if you wanted to watch a movie you went to a local theater with one picture showing.

Today you have Cable TV, Satelitte, internet, netflix, blockbuster, and multiple theaters with multiple screens and a theater that runs older movies for a dollar.

Most owned by the same or related corporation. What is it about the concept of competition you do not understand swamp?
This is the greatest myth of all. The Corporate illuminatti myth.

The number of Corporations that matter is smaller, they did some consolodation.

These corporations are viciously competitive against each other. Their entire profit structure is based on beating their enemies, not on screwing the middle class. They need a middle class to continue making profits for the next century.

The truth does not matter to the left. They will keep selling that "Corporations" are united to screw you, no matter how illogical that argument may be!
You are as gullible as a six year old swamp. And if you ever call me a lier again I am going to have your momma ground you for a week.
7/7/2011 2:10 PM
I stand loud and proud and scream the truth.

I hear the left spewing their lies day and night on their Talk Radio Shows...Miller, Schultz, Hartman, Rhodes, Colmes. I understand how you can fall for their lies. They are very charming in their pitches.

7/8/2011 1:17 AM
I've heard of Ed Schultz there.....none of the others.
7/8/2011 1:39 AM
Stephanie Miller
Thom Hartman
Randi Rhodes
Alan Colmes (used to be on one of the most popular political talk shows on cable)

And I actualy forgot Author and host Bill Press.

If Limbaugh said something one tenth as offensive as these people do he would be on every news program in America for 3 days!
7/8/2011 3:26 AM

The thing is

 
It's not any one thing. It's never one thing. All the things that have led up to my crisis of caring are old things; have been around a long time and I've been aware of all of them all along. Whether things have become so crazy that some trigger point was passed or whether being chronically weak because of a strict diet or a passing virus or whether somehow, the realization that all suffering comes from believing, from having faith that things can ever be all right in the long run, finally seeped through from that repository of things I always say to whatever core of self awareness exists deep down somewhere.

The thing is -- I just don't care. Neither more or less than the last time I said it, but I don't care. Someone apparently got away with murder? What's it to me? My country is making strides toward being neo-feudal, toward a police state, a corporate oligarchy with no collective concern for anything but maximum profit and maximum exploitation by those who can make the most of it? So what? The great accomplishments of science? That's over, unless it's the science of sales and manipulation and the technology that exists only to make people buy it. I don't give a damn. I don't even give a damn that I don't give a damn and I've forgotten why I ever believed in the progress of man and the slow climb up from the insanity of animals toward enlightenment and civilization -- or even decency.

But it's always something.

I got a phone call the other day. It was a recorded voice asking to contribute to the fight against the persecution of Christian parents' rights to raise their families as they saw fit. I have no idea what they meant but I can have some confidence in the assumption that it has to do with interfering with some other group's right to do the same. I pushed the "never call me again" button. I don't care, it's someone else's fight after all, and if they do win, it will take so long they might as well just wait for the next asteroid or gamma ray burst or solar catastrophe.

I got a flier in the mail too. Cover photos of grey haired people smiling like they were drugged under a headline of "happy Seniors." Now I hate like hell to be called a 'senior' and it damned well is a gratuitous pejorative. I'm still a man and no less entitled to be one than when I was an idiot teenager, fulfilling my duty of buying things to be hip. But no, these happy folks were just in Ecstasy because Representative Tom Rooney and his friends Mr. Ryan and Governor "Medicare Fraud" Scott were going to keep Medicare and Social security from being taken over by "unelected bureaucrats" and presumably given over to those entitled by party affiliation to a big ******* profit from it. You know, the Republican peerage, the elect. Happy, happy days, but I'm not going to be able to do a damn thing so why worry?

I bought one of these little flat screen portable HDTV's recently. Figured it would be a good thing for hurricane season, but trying it out today, I was was disappointed to find nothing on the air but Jesus and informercials, but I shouldn't be, of course. That's all there really is in this episode of the Truman Show and all there will be allowed to be because all this amazing technology has no other purpose than to sell to those at the bottom of the pond. The people already borrowing at 400% from Wells Fargo payday loan stores to meet the mortgage payment to Wells Fargo Bank and the credit cards they maxed out at Wal-Mart and who just found out they have to die because they have no insurance and can't even get welfare because they can't pass a drug test because they had to take something for the pain and they can't afford a prescription or prescription drugs. Yes, it's gonna be all right after we 'save' Medicare.

Some "Practicing physician" as he continually reminded me had the ultimate cure and preventative for heart disease which "we now know" is only caused by "Toxins" that need to be chelated out of our blood stream with his snake oil pills. " I don't wancha getting a bypass. I don't wancha getting a stent" He just wants to sell pills that will stop the "epidemic of sickness overwhelming all of us." It would take more than a pill to stop the irony, but nothing will stop the two born every minute.

Another channel appeared to be a cooking channel, showing children how to cover apple slices with sugar sprinkles because, as the nice Church lady tells us, "God wants children to eat healthy food" unless of course the fruit contains knowledge of morality. Perhaps that's why so many children are hungry - not enough red and green sprinkles -- or maybe, like me, God doesn't give a **** -- at least not as long as he sells enough air time. And he does sell it. Four stations available on the indoor antenna and three of them have Jesus, or at least so they say. They don't show him, but perhaps he's tied up in the back room while those polyester puffballs strut and parade and chant and solicit money. JEE- Suss! wants you to be rich so buy my prayer towel and my blessing -- call now.

So why feel sorry for myself. I don't need to if I don't care. I don't feel sorry for America either, they're fed all the crap they can chew on and they will die, or at least make sure you do, rather than make anything better. If I feel sorry for anyone it's people like poor old Jesus who not only thought they could, but tried -- only to be defeated, have their history stolen and used to sell product, to support tyranny and exploitation and persecution, the fleecing of the poor, the fearful, the desperate and to stifle knowledge, damn decency and prostitute hope.

But who cares?
7/8/2011 8:57 AM
Here is a link to the article above, so that the guy who actually wrote it can be credited.  Much as I disagree with him, he spent the time to blog it and his site deserves the traffic.  I read the entire article there instead of here.  Trying to be "decent" and all....
7/8/2011 9:14 AM
Sorry, I thought I had included that.



Human Voices
7/8/2011 9:24 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/8/2011 3:26:00 AM (view original):
Stephanie Miller
Thom Hartman
Randi Rhodes
Alan Colmes (used to be on one of the most popular political talk shows on cable)

And I actualy forgot Author and host Bill Press.

If Limbaugh said something one tenth as offensive as these people do he would be on every news program in America for 3 days!
I've heard of Stephanie Miller....and didn't Randi Rhodes die in the 80"s?  That dude could rock.


No idea who Hartman, Rhodes, or Colmes are.
7/8/2011 10:51 AM
Colmes did a show with Hannity for about 15 years.    Where were you?
7/8/2011 10:57 AM

Who knows, I'm sure beer was involved though....never been a big fan of cable news and rarely watch it. 

7/8/2011 11:29 AM
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