Round 2 - 100M Re-Allocation Draft Topic

ballantine
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    Pos Player B PA/
162		 AB/
162		 HR RBI SB-
CS		 SO-
BB		 AB/
HR		 AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1996 Todd Hundley S 624 540 41 112 1-3 146-79 13.2 .259 .356 .550 B+/A $4,625,192
1B 1961 Norm Cash L 672 535 41 132 11-5 85-124 13.0 .361 .487 .662 B/C $9,425,961
2B 2001 Roberto Alomar S 677 575 20 100 30-6 71-80 28.8 .336 .415 .541 A/D- $6,304,439
3B 2009 Ben Zobrist S 599 501 27 91 17-6 104-91 18.6 .297 .405 .543 A-/D $4,669,972
SS 1999 Tony Batista R 573 519 31 100 4-0 96-38 16.7 .277 .330 .518 A-/A- $5,156,151
OF 1989 Kevin Mitchell R 640 543 47 125 3-4 115-87 11.6 .291 .388 .635 C+/C+ $6,891,911
OF 1989 Ruben Sierra S 689 634 29 119 8-2 82-43 21.9 .306 .347 .543 C/C- $5,277,586
OF 2002 Larry Walker L 553 477 26 104 6-5 73-65 18.3 .338 .421 .602 B/C $5,948,847
OF 1973 Ken Griffey Sr. L 92 86 3 14 4-2 10-6 28.7 .384 .424 .570 A+/D- $1,129,410
C 2001 Gregg Zaun S 138 125 6 18 1-2 16-12 20.8 .320 .377 .536 D/B $1,279,642
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Batting Totals 5257 4535 271 915 85-35 798-625 16.7 .310 .394 .572 B/C $50,709,111
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162		 ERA OAV WHIP K/
9		 BB/
9		 HR/
9		 K-BB Salary
SP 1963 Turk Farrell R 14-13-1 203 3.02 .219 0.97 6.27 1.56 0.53 141-35 $6,473,217
SP/RP 1971 Vida Blue L 24-8-0 314 1.82 .189 0.95 8.68 2.54 0.55 301-88 $11,545,546
SP/RP 2008 Joey Devine R 6-1-1 45 0.59 .150 0.83 9.66 2.96 0.00 49-15 $2,467,906
SP/RP 1973 John Hiller L 10-5-38 126 1.44 .198 1.02 8.90 2.80 0.50 124-39 $4,586,649
SP/RP 1959 Bobby Shantz L 7-3-3 100 2.38 .189 1.02 6.28 3.14 0.38 66-33 $3,652,754
SP/RP 1965 Darrell Sutherland R 3-1-0 48 2.81 .199 1.04 3.00 3.19 0.75 16-17 $1,164,204
SP/RP 1991 Todd Frohwirth R 7-3-3 97 1.87 .190 0.97 7.19 2.71 0.19 77-29 $4,113,440
SP/RP 1966 Gary Peters L 12-10-0 205 1.98 .212 0.98 5.67 1.98 0.48 129-45 $7,139,611
SP/RP 2001 Rob Bell R 5-10-0 150 6.67 .300 1.60 5.83 3.85 1.92 97-64 $2,006,183
SP/RP 1968 Bobby Bolin R 10-5-0 177 1.99 .200 0.98 6.42 2.34 0.46 126-46 $5,566,404
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Pitching Totals 98-59-46 1,465 2.53 .210 1.04 6.96 2.54 0.62 1126-411 $48,715,914
10/15/2011 7:06 AM
schwarze
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ballantine, Alomar, Farrell and Shantz have already been taken (see alpha list on page 1)
10/15/2011 9:34 AM
schwarze
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rbows923, Rasmussen is listed as a SP.
10/15/2011 9:40 AM
rbow923
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    Walker, Jamie 2002 Detroit Tigers L 44 1 1 1 3.75 0.95 .199 8.33 1.88 2.71 1.88 $1,144,901 A+/D-
10/15/2011 10:10 AM
tjefferson
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  Pos Player B PA/
162		 AB/
162		 HR RBI SB-
CS		 SO-
BB		 AB/
HR		 AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
    C 1966 Joe Torre R 614 546 36 101 0-4 61-60 15.2 .315 .382 .560 C/A- $7,099,669
    1B 1994 Frank Thomas R 742 573 38 101 2-3 61-109 10.5 .353 .487 .729 C+/D $10,309,137
    2B 1984 Ryne Sandberg R 705 640 19 84 32-7 101-52 33.5 .314 .367 .520 A/B+ $7,982,765
    3B 1981 Mike Schmidt R 658 536 31 91 12-4 71-73 11.4 .316 .435 .644 B/A- $9,077,150
    SS 1969 Rico Petrocelli R 643 535 40 97 3-5 68-98 13.4 .297 .403 .589 A/B- $8,115,933
    OF 2007 Curtis Granderson L 676 612 23 74 26-1 141-52 26.6 .302 .361 .552 B+/A+ $7,330,315
    OF 1951 Ralph Kiner R 705 559 42 109 2-1 57-137 12.6 .309 .452 .627 D+/C- $7,372,420
    OF 2011 Jose Bautista R 655 513 43 103 9-5 111-132 11.9 .302 .447 .608 C/B- $9,275,427
    OF 1992 Deion Sanders L 325 303 8 28 26-9 52-18 37.9 .304 .346 .495 B/B $3,029,833
    3B 2011 Brett Lawrie R 171 150 9 25 7-1 31-16 16.7 .293 .373 .580 B/A+ $2,021,533
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Batting Totals 5894 4967 289 813 119-40 754-747 15.8 .311 .409 .588 B-/B $71,614,182
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162		 ERA OAV WHIP K/
9		 BB/
9		 HR/
9		 K-BB Salary
    SP 1972 Wilbur Wood L 24-17-0 397 2.51 .235 1.06 4.61 1.77 0.67 193-74 $10,157,751
    SP/RP 2005 Carlos Silva R 9-8-0 189 3.44 .290 1.17 3.39 0.43 1.19 71-9 $3,335,871
    SP/RP 1993 Jack Morris R 7-12-0 153 6.19 .302 1.66 6.07 3.83 1.06 103-65 $2,338,392
    SP/RP 2011 John Lackey R 12-12-0 160 6.41 .308 1.62 6.08 3.15 1.13 108-56 $2,266,565
    SP/RP 2000 Jose Lima R 7-16-0 197 6.65 .313 1.62 5.68 3.12 2.20 124-68 $2,793,906
    SP/RP 2006 Dennys Reyes L 5-0-0 51 0.89 .197 0.99 8.70 2.66 0.53 49-15 $1,738,651
    SP/RP 1997 Ricky Bones R 4-8-0 97 6.75 .336 1.76 4.13 3.38 1.13 44-36 $1,158,882
    SP/RP 1981 Al Hrabosky L 1-1-1 52 1.07 .207 0.98 3.48 2.41 0.27 13-9 $1,663,171
    SP/RP 2004 Trevor Hoffman R 3-3-41 55 2.30 .211 0.91 8.72 1.32 0.82 53-8 $1,911,763
    SP/RP 2003 Gabe White L 5-1-0 47 4.05 .251 1.11 5.59 1.54 1.35 29-8 $1,007,885
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Pitching Totals 77-78-42 1,398 4.36 .277 1.33 5.22 2.31 1.11 787-348 $28,372,837
10/15/2011 5:35 PM (edited)
ryan_horner
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Position Players
    Pos Player B PA/
162		 AB/
162		 HR RBI SB-
CS		 SO-
BB		 AB/
HR		 AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1993 Darren Daulton L 637 510 24 105 5-0 111-117 21.3 .257 .392 .482 B/A+ $5,231,281
1B 2002 Jim Thome L 613 480 52 118 1-2 139-122 9.2 .304 .445 .677 C+/D $6,640,125
2B 2000 Edgardo Alfonzo R 650 544 25 94 3-2 70-95 21.8 .324 .425 .542 B+/C+ $6,557,498
3B 1959 Eddie Yost R 711 549 21 61 9-2 77-135 24.8 .278 .435 .436 B/C+ $5,942,758
SS 1951 Johnny Pesky L 603 505 3 41 2-2 15-84 160.0 .313 .417 .398 B-/B- $5,347,201
OF 1983 Rudy Law L 551 501 3 34 77-12 36-42 167.0 .283 .340 .369 A/B $4,394,075
OF 1994 Albert Belle R 689 591 36 101 9-6 71-58 11.4 .357 .438 .714 C/C- $9,010,838
OF 1997 Ray Lankford L 565 465 31 98 21-11 125-95 15.0 .295 .411 .585 C-/B $5,497,978
OF 1995 Turner Ward S 165 146 4 16 6-1 21-14 32.3 .264 .338 .395 B+/C+ $1,082,616
2B 2003 Mark DeRosa R 288 266 6 22 1-0 49-16 44.3 .263 .316 .383 B/D+ $1,369,737
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Batting Totals 5472 4557 205 690 134-38 714-778 21.0 .297 .406 .508 B/C+ $51,074,107
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162		 ERA OAV WHIP K/
9		 BB/
9		 HR/
9		 K-BB Salary
SP 1980 Mike Norris R 22-9-0 285 2.53 .209 1.05 5.70 2.63 0.57 180-83 $9,259,893
SP/RP 2007 Chien-Ming Wang R 19-7-0 199 3.70 .265 1.29 4.70 2.66 0.41 104-59 $4,865,691
SP/RP 2010 Felix Hernandez R 13-12-0 250 2.27 .212 1.06 8.36 2.52 0.61 232-70 $8,071,913
SP/RP 1991 Jose Rijo R 15-6-0 205 2.51 .219 1.08 7.58 2.42 0.35 172-55 $6,773,075
SP/RP 2010 Josh Johnson R 11-6-0 184 2.30 .229 1.11 9.11 2.35 0.34 186-48 $6,019,948
SP/RP 2011 Sergio Romo R 3-1-1 48 1.50 .173 0.71 13.13 0.94 0.38 70-5 $2,444,230
SP/RP 2000 Robb Nen R 4-3-41 66 1.50 .162 0.85 12.55 2.59 0.55 92-19 $3,306,797
SP/RP 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo L 3-2-12 60 1.20 .139 0.78 10.95 2.70 0.15 73-18 $3,398,795
SP/RP 1985 Steve Ontiveros R 1-3-8 75 1.93 .174 0.86 4.34 2.29 0.48 36-19 $3,021,308
SP/RP 2010 Grant Balfour R 2-1-0 55 2.28 .216 1.08 9.11 2.77 0.49 56-17 $1,755,833
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Pitching Totals 93-50-62 1,427 2.44 .214 1.06 7.58 2.48 0.46 1201-393 $48,917,483
10/15/2011 11:14 AM
besterateam
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o Salary Cap: $80,000,000 Available Cash: ($19,891,911) o
o Current Payroll: $99,891,911 Draft Picks Remaining: 5 o
o Position Salaries: $51,828,370 Required Plate Appearances Remaining (PA/162): 0 o
o Pitcher Salaries: $48,063,541 Required Innings Pitched Remaining (IP/162): 0 o
o 5 more picks are needed to complete your roster! o

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Position Players
    Pos Player B PA/
162		 AB/
162		 HR RBI SB-
CS		 SO-
BB		 AB/
HR		 AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1979 Brian Downing R 596 509 12 75 3-3 57-77 42.4 .326 .418 .462 C+/B $4,733,974
1B 1979 Keith Hernandez L 698 610 11 105 11-6 78-80 55.5 .344 .417 .513 A-/A $7,670,955
2B 1998 Tony Fernandez S 551 486 9 72 13-8 53-45 54.0 .321 .387 .459 C/D $3,716,369
3B 1996 Ken Caminiti S 638 546 40 130 11-5 99-78 13.7 .326 .408 .621 B-/A+ $7,846,734
SS 2006 Carlos Guillen S 622 543 19 85 20-9 87-71 28.6 .320 .400 .519 C/B $5,554,921
OF 2007 Magglio Ordonez R 679 595 28 139 4-1 79-76 21.3 .363 .434 .595 A/D+ $7,504,141
OF 1974 Ralph Garr L 645 606 11 54 26-16 52-28 55.1 .353 .383 .503 D+/D+ $5,611,172
OF 1962 Tommy Davis R 699 653 27 153 18-6 65-33 24.6 .346 .374 .535 D+/D+ $5,769,945
OF 2001 Todd Hollandsworth L 125 117 6 19 5-0 20-8 19.5 .368 .408 .667 B-/D $1,630,936
OF 1984 Jeff Stone L 199 185 1 15 27-5 26-9 185.0 .362 .394 .465 D-/D- $1,789,223
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Batting Totals 5452 4850 164 847 138-59 616-505 29.6 .340 .403 .529 C+/C $51,828,370
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162		 ERA OAV WHIP K/
9		 BB/
9		 HR/
9		 K-BB Salary
SP 1999 Kevin Millwood R 18-7-0 228 2.68 .202 1.00 8.09 2.33 0.95 205-59 $8,246,138
SP/RP 1962 Hank Aguirre L 16-8-3 218 2.21 .205 1.05 6.50 2.71 0.58 156-65 $7,279,490
SP/RP 2002 Odalis Perez L 15-10-0 223 3.00 .226 0.99 6.28 1.54 0.85 155-38 $7,163,899
SP/RP 2004 Ben Sheets R 12-14-0 239 2.70 .226 0.98 10.03 1.22 0.95 264-32 $8,039,855
SP/RP 1974 Tommy John L 13-3-0 153 2.59 .235 1.14 4.59 2.47 0.24 78-42 $4,485,114
SP/RP 2004 Armando Benitez R 2-2-47 70 1.29 .152 0.82 8.01 2.71 0.77 62-21 $3,180,693
SP/RP 2008 Taylor Buchholz R 6-6-1 66 2.17 .188 0.95 7.60 2.44 0.68 56-18 $2,463,624
SP/RP 1969 Eddie Watt R 5-2-16 71 1.65 .194 1.06 5.83 3.30 0.38 46-26 $2,399,316
SP/RP 1992 Terry Leach R 6-5-0 74 1.95 .215 1.05 2.69 2.44 0.24 22-20 $2,347,057
SP/RP 1971 Joe Grzenda L 5-2-5 72 1.92 .217 1.01 7.17 2.18 0.26 56-17 $2,458,355
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Pitching Totals 98-59-72 1,414 2.43 .212 1.01 7.04 2.16 0.68 1100-338 $48,063,541
10/15/2011 12:36 PM
brianjw
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    C 2008 A.J. Pierzynski L 566 530 13 60 1-0 71-19 41.1 .281 .312 .416 B/A+ $2,832,838
    1B 1981 Enos Cabell R 603 578 2 36 6-7 47-10 198.0 .255 .274 .326 D+/B- $2,694,472
    2B 1957 Nellie Fox L 756 652 6 61 5-6 13-75 103.2 .317 .403 .415 A-/A+ $8,074,267
    3B 1998 Russ Davis R 554 506 20 82 4-3 134-34 25.1 .259 .305 .442 D/D $2,665,609
    SS 1981 Tim Foli R 558 502 0 20 7-7 10-17 316.0 .247 .285 .297 B-/D+ $2,639,083
    OF 1981 Jorge Orta L 582 532 5 34 4-3 43-21 67.6 .272 .312 .376 A/D- $2,921,430
    OF 1967 Ron Fairly L 554 486 10 55 1-4 51-54 48.6 .220 .295 .321 B/D- $2,218,436
    OF 1954 Dave Philley S 550 476 12 60 2-4 48-57 37.7 .226 .308 .347 B/D+ $2,628,341
    OF 2000 Glenallen Hill R 321 300 27 58 0-1 76-19 11.1 .293 .336 .600 D+/D- $2,254,877
    OF 1961 Wally Post R 322 297 20 57 0-1 61-22 14.1 .294 .346 .585 D/D+ $2,396,567

    SP 1979 Phil Niekro R 21-20-0 347 3.39 .241 1.24 5.47 2.97 1.08 208-113 $8,023,687
    SP/RP 1973 Gaylord Perry R 19-19-0 344 3.38 .246 1.25 6.23 3.01 0.89 238-115 $7,868,676
    SP/RP 1956 Bob Friend R 17-17-3 331 3.46 .258 1.26 4.75 2.43 0.72 166-85 $7,957,084
    SP/RP 1971 Mickey Lolich L 25-14-0 376 2.92 .237 1.14 7.37 2.20 0.86 308-92 $9,687,643
    SP/RP 1971 Fergie Jenkins R 24-13-0 325 2.77 .246 1.05 7.28 1.02 0.80 263-37 $10,361,034
    SP/RP 1970 Milt Pappas R 10-8-0 145 2.68 .248 1.18 4.98 2.24 0.87 80-36 $4,101,168
    SP/RP 1974 Rudy May L 8-4-0 115 2.28 .188 1.08 7.08 3.78 0.39 90-48 $3,746,927
    SP/RP 1960 Ernie Broglio R 21-9-0 239 2.74 .213 1.20 7.48 3.98 0.72 188-100 $6,774,924
    SP/RP 1981 Dennis Lamp R 7-6-0 195 2.41 .222 1.15 5.03 3.05 0.28 71-43 $5,754,700
    SP/RP 1967 Bill Monbouquette R 6-5-1 134 2.36 .246 1.04 3.58 1.15 0.41 53-17 $3,441,228

The last five are listed as RP in the WIS database, though obviously they have a few IP each. I think the rule is that if 1/2 the appearances are as an RP, then you're an RP.
10/15/2011 1:02 PM (edited)
rbow923
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brian has the distinction of selecting only 4 players who are usable at this cap. lots of crappy starters being selected. is this a screw your neighbor league?
10/15/2011 1:21 PM (edited)
besterateam
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yeah I don't understand some of these teams being built..
10/15/2011 1:28 PM
brianjw
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Posted by rbow923 on 10/15/2011 1:21:00 PM (view original):
brian has the distinction of selecting only 4 players who are usable at this cap. lots of crappy starters being selected. is this a screw your neighbor league?
I was thinking it was basically like a progressive league. At the end of the draft, you've got to select between a lot of dreck. And, unlike most of the other leagues we're playing, there will be some very unbalanced teams, with some truly terrible #7 and #8 hitters and #4 and #5 starters. But I think it'll be fun to have realistic teams like that.
10/15/2011 2:02 PM
tjefferson
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Well, we certainly won't be lacking for innings after that team...
10/15/2011 2:51 PM
rbow923
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yes all strategies are fair game and this theme blends different opinions of how we want to play this league. it's just not a popular choice, as evidenced by all the complaints about the $120m theme. at some point avoiding losers becomes the dominant strategy, more important than actually figuring out who the best players are. personally I don't prefer to play that way.
10/15/2011 4:42 PM (edited)
buddhagamer
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Will there be some type of rule restricting selections (i.e. only can select one of the submitted shortstops per team) or is it all's fair in love and war when selecting players (I assume some players could play other positions and might be attractive to be selected even though that position has already been taken previously).

[Edit] Reading the description again it sounds like people will be restricted so some of these submitted selections will have to be played even though more attractive options might be available.
10/15/2011 3:43 PM (edited)
rbow923
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you need to fill each slot. there's no rule that says you have to use them. I suspect most will use bench players to replace bum starters and some may try to get by with 9 pitchers.
10/15/2011 4:15 PM (edited)
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