Increase time to sign FA during arb. Topic

Posted by sergei91 on 11/4/2011 7:41:00 AM (view original):
seems to me like you're saying 'ive fucked arb up before for no good reason but this last time i had a better reason, change it for me'

maybe you should write yourself a note to deal with your arb guys on the day of arbitration from now on?
Or maybe I should not have my computer crash. I think overall I am just better off dropping teams. I put a suggestion forth that would benefit me and I don't deny that. If WIS thinks I am the only one that would benefit from this change then no big deal for them, they only have to worry about me dropping teams. However I don't believe that is the case, there is a lot of owners who have dropped teams because the time constraints of HBD does not fit with their real life schedule. When people drop teams it effects WIS and in the long run effects everyone who plays this game.

If its not a problem for you I understand why you would not want this to change, you can take advantage of the situation. As I said earlier, you guys want to play the low road. You figure other peoples misfortune is your possible fortune. You can pretty up the picture however you want, but thats underlying reason. 
11/4/2011 5:06 PM (edited)
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/4/2011 6:22:00 AM (view original):
I'll leave this thread to you after this:

No schedule, regardless of length of events, will accomodate everyone.   You can't plan for unexpected real world events in a simulated game.  If WifS wants to keep their customer base happy, they'll acknowledge that additional down time to help an unfortunate few, who we can't identify just yet because they haven't had an unexpected real-life event, will not be beneficial to the rest of their membership or the game.

And this thread will die.
How dense are you, its frustrating talking to someone who plays the role of  idiot. I said multiple times THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL DOWN TIME. NOTHING ELSE CHANGES. . With your reasoning why keep it at 2 days? You cant solve everyones problems with 2 days.

Multiple times its been said NO MATTER WHAT NOT EVERYONES PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED. If someone goes into a coma for year this will not solve your problem, but neither will the current 2 day problem.. The goal should be too  accomodate as many people as possible. It makes no sense to say since 7 days won't solve everyone's problem then lets keep it at 2 days because that also does not solve everyone problem.
11/4/2011 5:07 PM (edited)
Since you've chosen to be insulting AND respond directly to my post, here's a solution:   A new "OK to move to next event" button that every owner must click.   Problem solved.   Everyone accomodated.   What a lovely game HBD would be then. 
11/4/2011 5:11 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/4/2011 5:11:00 PM (view original):
Since you've chosen to be insulting AND respond directly to my post, here's a solution:   A new "OK to move to next event" button that every owner must click.   Problem solved.   Everyone accomodated.   What a lovely game HBD would be then. 
If your going to consistently ignore what I said and continue to spew the same things then dense is the proper word, and playing the role of idiot works. I am not saying your a actual idiot, but you are trying to play that role because it fits your needs to ignore something that proves you wrong, and  saying you are wrong is something that deeply bothers you and something you will never do.
11/4/2011 5:16 PM
You've posted nothing to prove me wrong.  You've posted nothing that actually improves the game.   You should be thanking me for keeping this thread going.

One of my pet peeves is players with expiring contracts re-signing.  Your suggestion only perpetuates the problem.   What should happen is more players REFUSE to sign long-term deals.  Players who "see" similar players getting 14m a year deals shouldn't come back to teams for 4y/8m each.   They SHOULD go to FA.  You want less players testing the FA waters.   It's unrealistic and does NOTHING to improve the game.  

Is that better?
11/4/2011 5:23 PM
Here's how the game works:

1st BL season - Call up after 20 MINOR league games
2nd BL season - 343k
3rd - 360k
4th - 378k
5th - 1st arb
6th - 2nd arb
7th - 5 year deal

At this point, you've locked him up thru his 11th BL season.   Depending on what age you brought him up(in most cases at least 21 y/o), he's on the downside of his career before he ever goes FA.   More of those 5th - 7th year guys outlined above should refuse to sign LT deal.    That's an improvement to the game.  Not your "Give me more time to lock a player up for all the good years of his career" nonsense.
11/4/2011 5:27 PM
Furthermore, when players are in the last year of their deal, they shouldn't sign another LT deal all season.    Have some of them Pujols us.   "Sign me before ST or I'm testing FA".    Have some increase demands as the season moves on.   Recommend something that's actually good for the game and not just good for plague.
11/4/2011 5:30 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/4/2011 5:27:00 PM (view original):
Here's how the game works:

1st BL season - Call up after 20 MINOR league games
2nd BL season - 343k
3rd - 360k
4th - 378k
5th - 1st arb
6th - 2nd arb
7th - 5 year deal

At this point, you've locked him up thru his 11th BL season.   Depending on what age you brought him up(in most cases at least 21 y/o), he's on the downside of his career before he ever goes FA.   More of those 5th - 7th year guys outlined above should refuse to sign LT deal.    That's an improvement to the game.  Not your "Give me more time to lock a player up for all the good years of his career" nonsense.
I am ok with your suggestion.

If your suggestion is too have more players refuse to sign long term contracts then make that suggestion, but that has nothing to do with my suggestion. My suggestion is to allow more time so that people with busy lives would have a greater chance to compete with people who have no lives. Both your suggestion and my suggestion could be implemented and work together.
11/4/2011 5:34 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/4/2011 5:23:00 PM (view original):
You've posted nothing to prove me wrong.  You've posted nothing that actually improves the game.   You should be thanking me for keeping this thread going.

One of my pet peeves is players with expiring contracts re-signing.  Your suggestion only perpetuates the problem.   What should happen is more players REFUSE to sign long-term deals.  Players who "see" similar players getting 14m a year deals shouldn't come back to teams for 4y/8m each.   They SHOULD go to FA.  You want less players testing the FA waters.   It's unrealistic and does NOTHING to improve the game.  

Is that better?
My suggestion better balances the playing field. It improves the game because we will on average have more people playing HBD. Every time someone quits HBD because they say they don't have the time to play the game its because of the tight time restraints the game has. When possible as much time should be given, that will decrease the amount of people who either cut back on teams or quit altogether.
11/4/2011 5:38 PM
I didn't want to hijack your thread.

As far as lives, owners with a dozen teams who admittedly thinks he has too many shouldn't bring that up.   It isn't the life that's getting the way of HBD, it's HBD that's getting the way of life.    Don't bite off more than you can chew.
11/4/2011 5:40 PM
When I play against someone I want to win by what happens on the playing field, not because I got a advantage because of outside the game circumstances. While we can't make it a 100% we can decrease how many people are effected by outside the game circumstances. When we can do it without changing any other part of the world schedule or adding days then it should be done..
11/4/2011 5:43 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/4/2011 5:40:00 PM (view original):
I didn't want to hijack your thread.

As far as lives, owners with a dozen teams who admittedly thinks he has too many shouldn't bring that up.   It isn't the life that's getting the way of HBD, it's HBD that's getting the way of life.    Don't bite off more than you can chew.
I agree with you. I am going to have to start dropping teams. My real life schedule is not working well with the time restraints of HBD, the unfortunate situation has increased my desire to drop teams.. However is that good business for WIS when people drop teams because of time when a change can be made that would increase the amount of owners playing the game?

Based on my experience time is the #1 reason owners quit the game. Its not good for existing owners when a current owner of many seasons quits the game and a new off the street owner joins their world. I believe all of us would like as many returning owners to the world they play
11/4/2011 5:46 PM
There is a time committment required to do anything.  You either have the time or you don't.

I don't want to say "dumb down the game" but you're forcing me into it.    There are deadlines in every walk of life.   You meet them or your fall behind.  It sounds like you're falling behind in HBD.  Changing the game to fit the schedules of those who can't keep up isn't an improvement.   The fact that you're not getting much support in this thread probably indicates that most owners don't see the changes you request as necessary. 

There are times when I have "bare bones" the game due to time constraints.  It happens.  I deal with it.   I was rushed last season and waived my best(fortunately old) pitcher by mistake.  I could have ****** and moaned about it by telling everyone it was a mistake made in haste.  I could have sent a ticket asking WifS to retract the move.   Instead I just sucked it up and did the best I could.   That's how I think men should handle situations like that.
11/4/2011 6:11 PM
You think time available equals smart? If anything its the opposite, giving people the advantage because of time is dumbing down the game. Skill equals winning the game on the field, not because someone else has less available time than you do. You are the one who wants to keep the game dumb downed, I am trying to decrease the luck factor in this game and also decrease the amount of people who will leave this game due to time constraints..

I did not **** or moan, I lost someone in the rule 5 draft that I wanted to protect and I sucked up and never said anything in world chat, just like you I did not ask WIS to allow me to resign these players I lost, but just like your waiving a player by mistake that has nothing to do with this suggestion to improve the game...Staying silent when you feel you have a suggestion to improve the game does not make you a man

If you did not come into this thread I would of never said another word in this thread. From both a owners perspective and a commish perspective I feel that its better for the game to increase time restraints when possible. From a owners perspective the game should be won on the field and off the field situations should be minimized. From a commish perspective anything that alleviates owners leaving the game because of time constraints is a plus.


11/5/2011 4:03 AM (edited)
Didn't say "free time" = "smart".   I said, and you can look up and see it, "There is a time committment required to do anything.  You either have the time or you don't."

Equate it to the real world.    Your boss gives you and a co-worker a project in addition to your normal duties.   Your co-worker has 3 hours per day to complete the project, you have one because of that.   At the end of the week, his 15 hours committed will likely produce a better result than your 5.   Doesn't make him smarter.  Just means he did a better job.
11/5/2011 6:44 AM
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