Allegations Topic

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 10/1/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/1/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):
It may take 3 days for some guys in this thread to understand that post. Others never will.
"Because it is impossible to prove something didn't happen. You are asking him to prove a negative which is impossible."

Absolutely correct. BOTH statements.

I get that!

But,
It isn't about (for ME) the alleged Dr. Ford event.
It's that HE clearly is a liar.

He CLEARLY lied when HE claimed HE has never drank to excess enough to have suffered from "memory loss".

And THAT proves beyond any doubt that HE lied when HE said HE never could have done such an act, however silly and unimportant to most (except Dr. Ford, apparently) because HE clearly doesn't actually KNOW that he didn't because HE sometimes behaved like a drunken teen-ager.
And HE, with his legal and judicial experience, clearly KNOWS that he actually can't swear to NEVER, because HE knows he doesn't remember her (alleged) event, or any of the other (alleged) events. In short HE's a liar and has forfeited his opportunity to serve as a S.C. justice.

Too bad. He should have just said, Gaw'd I done me some dumb teen-age things and I apologize IF anything I ever did to Dr. Ford caused her harm, BUT I was only foolin' around."

He'd have been confirmed.

Now. He's toast.
Finished.
The FBI investigation will seal the deal!
Patience.

Trump gets a do-over.
For a smart guy Bob, you totally missed the point here. So I am going to make it for you and tang.

#1) bad luck is an idiot

#2) Bottom line --- only one person to blame here ---- DIANE FEINSTEIN!!!!

She could have easily shared the letter with the FBI and had them investigate the verasity. Instead she went to the press knowing that she could win in the court of public opinion but not in a court of law. What an underhanded and evil person she is. Because of this if Kav is innocent she ruined his rep and and his life 4ever. He is not allowed to coach his girls in hoops anymore, his daughters and wife are in shambles. If Ford is innocent (correct) she will forever be labeled by many as a tramp and a liar.

Ford asked for anonymity. Feinstein could have shared the letter with the authorities and done a behind the scene background check (like the Feds are doing now). It could have been discrete and confidential. Instead she leaked it at the last second and LIED about it. What a snake.

We can distpute Ford/Kav all day but there is ZERO dispute that Feinstein is a snake.
Kav wasn't going to coach his girls regardless of what happened.
10/1/2018 10:56 AM
More evidence will come out. A classmate of Kavanaugh's from North Carolina is already publicly stating that He has knowledge of events that PROVE Kavanaugh pejrured himself and that He is going to the FBI field office and file a report.

The FBI will tell us what they find!

Sorry Boris, BUT this:

"I want an FBI investigation to reveal how many times Ford voted Democrat. I think this is behind the accusation not some non-event that took place 36 yrs ago."


IS the MOST misogynistic and downright stupid statements ever posted IMO. It demonstrates your COMPLETE inability to be impartial. It shows that YOU are nothing but a partisan Republican Hack.

NON-EVENT! HOW DARE YOU?

IF your daughters ever read what you wrote, someday they will be horribly ashamed of you.
I thought you were a better man. I was wrong!

The LOVE of my daughters compels me to tell you this, regardless of my presence in your progressive league!

I'm ashamed of my "affiliation" with you because of that ignorant statement.

10/1/2018 10:57 AM
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 10:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 10/1/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/1/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):
It may take 3 days for some guys in this thread to understand that post. Others never will.
"Because it is impossible to prove something didn't happen. You are asking him to prove a negative which is impossible."

Absolutely correct. BOTH statements.

I get that!

But,
It isn't about (for ME) the alleged Dr. Ford event.
It's that HE clearly is a liar.

He CLEARLY lied when HE claimed HE has never drank to excess enough to have suffered from "memory loss".

And THAT proves beyond any doubt that HE lied when HE said HE never could have done such an act, however silly and unimportant to most (except Dr. Ford, apparently) because HE clearly doesn't actually KNOW that he didn't because HE sometimes behaved like a drunken teen-ager.
And HE, with his legal and judicial experience, clearly KNOWS that he actually can't swear to NEVER, because HE knows he doesn't remember her (alleged) event, or any of the other (alleged) events. In short HE's a liar and has forfeited his opportunity to serve as a S.C. justice.

Too bad. He should have just said, Gaw'd I done me some dumb teen-age things and I apologize IF anything I ever did to Dr. Ford caused her harm, BUT I was only foolin' around."

He'd have been confirmed.

Now. He's toast.
Finished.
The FBI investigation will seal the deal!
Patience.

Trump gets a do-over.
For a smart guy Bob, you totally missed the point here. So I am going to make it for you and tang.

#1) bad luck is an idiot

#2) Bottom line --- only one person to blame here ---- DIANE FEINSTEIN!!!!

She could have easily shared the letter with the FBI and had them investigate the verasity. Instead she went to the press knowing that she could win in the court of public opinion but not in a court of law. What an underhanded and evil person she is. Because of this if Kav is innocent she ruined his rep and and his life 4ever. He is not allowed to coach his girls in hoops anymore, his daughters and wife are in shambles. If Ford is innocent (correct) she will forever be labeled by many as a tramp and a liar.

Ford asked for anonymity. Feinstein could have shared the letter with the authorities and done a behind the scene background check (like the Feds are doing now). It could have been discrete and confidential. Instead she leaked it at the last second and LIED about it. What a snake.

We can distpute Ford/Kav all day but there is ZERO dispute that Feinstein is a snake.
Kav wasn't going to coach his girls regardless of what happened.
Why not? LOL
10/1/2018 11:00 AM
Posted by laramiebob on 10/1/2018 10:57:00 AM (view original):
More evidence will come out. A classmate of Kavanaugh's from North Carolina is already publicly stating that He has knowledge of events that PROVE Kavanaugh pejrured himself and that He is going to the FBI field office and file a report.

The FBI will tell us what they find!

Sorry Boris, BUT this:

"I want an FBI investigation to reveal how many times Ford voted Democrat. I think this is behind the accusation not some non-event that took place 36 yrs ago."


IS the MOST misogynistic and downright stupid statements ever posted IMO. It demonstrates your COMPLETE inability to be impartial. It shows that YOU are nothing but a partisan Republican Hack.

NON-EVENT! HOW DARE YOU?

IF your daughters ever read what you wrote, someday they will be horribly ashamed of you.
I thought you were a better man. I was wrong!

The LOVE of my daughters compels me to tell you this, regardless of my presence in your progressive league!

I'm ashamed of my "affiliation" with you because of that ignorant statement.

My daughters agree with me. They think Ford is not credible. They are 14 and 13 (happy B-day to my youngest). I think this is behind the accusation 100000000000%. Do you want me to lie to you and tell you I feel differently? As I said my gut check has not led me astray in my life yet so I will trust it.
10/1/2018 11:02 AM
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 10:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 10:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/1/2018 10:42:00 AM (view original):
While it is plausible that you're right, Bob. It's hard to accuse a guy of something or find her testimony credible when she has no witnesses and no evidence. Even Leland couldn't confirm a thing. I know she said that she believes Ford, but her opinion doesn't matter to me. Nobody remembers the events. I went to a fairly prestigious prep school. If something like this had happened, the news of it would have spread like wildfire, even if the alleged victim went to a different prep school within the community. That's how it works in that world.

Also once again, watching the truth come out after Herman Cain withdrew his name has made sceptical of these claims.
Once Avenatti got involved I knew all this was a sham. I want an FBI investigation to reveal how many times Ford voted Democrat. I think this is behind the accusation not some non-event that took place 36 yrs ago.
I don't believe Avenatti but that has nothing to do with Ford... Who cares about her political ideology?

Dude assault is assault.
ALLEGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No proof.

Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor who questioned Christine Blasey Ford last week during a hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote a five-page memo that was released on Sunday that outlines why she would not bring criminal charges against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/36519/prosecutor-questioned-ford-shreds-her-case-5-page-ryan-saavedra

10/1/2018 11:04 AM
bob, for someone who keeps claiming he is only concerned about what is just, you certainly take a lot of accusations and promises (that have all been empty so far, regarding both Trump and Cavanaugh) as facts. Is your hatred for Trump so great that this is how you act regarding anything even remotely Trump-related, or is is business as usual and your claims about "justice" all just BS? Doesn't someone actually interested in justice wait until they have actual facts?
10/1/2018 11:25 AM
  • Perhaps most importantly, she does not remember how she got from the party back to her house.
    • Her inability to remember this detail raises significant questions.
    • She told the Washington Post that the party took place near the Columbia Country Club. The Club is more than 7 miles from her childhood home as the crow flies, and she testified that it was a roughly 20-minute drive from her childhood home.
    • She also agreed for the first time in her testimony that she was driven somewhere that night, either to the party or from the party or both.
    • Dr. Ford was able to describe hiding in the bathroom, locking the door, and subsequently exiting the house. She also described wanting to make sure that she did not look like she had been attacked.
    • But she has no memory of who drove her or when. Nor has anyone come forward to identify him or herself as the driver.
    • Given that this all took place before cell phones, arranging a ride home would not have been easy. Indeed, she stated that she ran out of the house after coming downstairs and did not state that she made a phone call from the house before she did, or that she called anyone else thereafter.
  • She does, however, remember small, distinct details from the party unrelated to the assault. For example, she testified that she had exactly one beer at the party and was taking no medication at the time of the alleged assault.
10/1/2018 11:25 AM
Posted by all3 on 10/1/2018 11:25:00 AM (view original):
bob, for someone who keeps claiming he is only concerned about what is just, you certainly take a lot of accusations and promises (that have all been empty so far, regarding both Trump and Cavanaugh) as facts. Is your hatred for Trump so great that this is how you act regarding anything even remotely Trump-related, or is is business as usual and your claims about "justice" all just BS? Doesn't someone actually interested in justice wait until they have actual facts?
The independent prosecutor agrees with me. So Bob must hate her too?
10/1/2018 11:26 AM
The Independent Prosecutor In NOT independent. She is a LONG TIME member of one of the most powerful Republican County committees in the Country.
She was/is worthless! Her "opinion" was not requested NOR is it helpful OR germane.
She, herself, pointed out the improper form of questioning she was forced to engage in.

The bias is yours Boris.

I await the report from the FBI.
Patience IS a virtue.

Boris, your daughters are too young to even understand the behaviors associated with sexual abuse. Both for the victims, and (hopefully) the perp.
You ARE opening up yourself to a large LOSS of respect with your premature endorsement of Kavanaugh's "incredible" testimony.

I, too, use my GUT.
I've been around a LOT longer than you have.
I'd BET my life that Kavanaugh is lying UNDER OATH to the U.S. Senate. THAT makes him unfit for this job. Not (necessarily) for coaching Girl-ball.
I'd let him Coach my own daughters, IF they were 10 or 12.
15 or 16??? I'd have to think about that.

For alltee.
My opinion of Kavanaugh's credibility and fitness have NOTHING to do with my admitted disdain for Trump.
On this issue I AGREE with Trump when he repeatedly asserts that Judge Kavanaugh's testimony was "incredible"!

It damn sure was!

10/1/2018 11:49 AM
You're even trying to eliminate half the story with your "cute" play on words. What about all these meanings for "incredible"?

Synonyms for incredible

adj marvellous
10/1/2018 12:12 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 11:00:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 10:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 10/1/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/1/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):
It may take 3 days for some guys in this thread to understand that post. Others never will.
"Because it is impossible to prove something didn't happen. You are asking him to prove a negative which is impossible."

Absolutely correct. BOTH statements.

I get that!

But,
It isn't about (for ME) the alleged Dr. Ford event.
It's that HE clearly is a liar.

He CLEARLY lied when HE claimed HE has never drank to excess enough to have suffered from "memory loss".

And THAT proves beyond any doubt that HE lied when HE said HE never could have done such an act, however silly and unimportant to most (except Dr. Ford, apparently) because HE clearly doesn't actually KNOW that he didn't because HE sometimes behaved like a drunken teen-ager.
And HE, with his legal and judicial experience, clearly KNOWS that he actually can't swear to NEVER, because HE knows he doesn't remember her (alleged) event, or any of the other (alleged) events. In short HE's a liar and has forfeited his opportunity to serve as a S.C. justice.

Too bad. He should have just said, Gaw'd I done me some dumb teen-age things and I apologize IF anything I ever did to Dr. Ford caused her harm, BUT I was only foolin' around."

He'd have been confirmed.

Now. He's toast.
Finished.
The FBI investigation will seal the deal!
Patience.

Trump gets a do-over.
For a smart guy Bob, you totally missed the point here. So I am going to make it for you and tang.

#1) bad luck is an idiot

#2) Bottom line --- only one person to blame here ---- DIANE FEINSTEIN!!!!

She could have easily shared the letter with the FBI and had them investigate the verasity. Instead she went to the press knowing that she could win in the court of public opinion but not in a court of law. What an underhanded and evil person she is. Because of this if Kav is innocent she ruined his rep and and his life 4ever. He is not allowed to coach his girls in hoops anymore, his daughters and wife are in shambles. If Ford is innocent (correct) she will forever be labeled by many as a tramp and a liar.

Ford asked for anonymity. Feinstein could have shared the letter with the authorities and done a behind the scene background check (like the Feds are doing now). It could have been discrete and confidential. Instead she leaked it at the last second and LIED about it. What a snake.

We can distpute Ford/Kav all day but there is ZERO dispute that Feinstein is a snake.
Kav wasn't going to coach his girls regardless of what happened.
Why not? LOL
Supreme Court job?
10/1/2018 1:13 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 11:04:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 10:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 10:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/1/2018 10:42:00 AM (view original):
While it is plausible that you're right, Bob. It's hard to accuse a guy of something or find her testimony credible when she has no witnesses and no evidence. Even Leland couldn't confirm a thing. I know she said that she believes Ford, but her opinion doesn't matter to me. Nobody remembers the events. I went to a fairly prestigious prep school. If something like this had happened, the news of it would have spread like wildfire, even if the alleged victim went to a different prep school within the community. That's how it works in that world.

Also once again, watching the truth come out after Herman Cain withdrew his name has made sceptical of these claims.
Once Avenatti got involved I knew all this was a sham. I want an FBI investigation to reveal how many times Ford voted Democrat. I think this is behind the accusation not some non-event that took place 36 yrs ago.
I don't believe Avenatti but that has nothing to do with Ford... Who cares about her political ideology?

Dude assault is assault.
ALLEGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No proof.

Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor who questioned Christine Blasey Ford last week during a hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote a five-page memo that was released on Sunday that outlines why she would not bring criminal charges against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/36519/prosecutor-questioned-ford-shreds-her-case-5-page-ryan-saavedra

HIRED BY THE REPUBLICANS
10/1/2018 1:15 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 11:25:00 AM (view original):
  • Perhaps most importantly, she does not remember how she got from the party back to her house.
    • Her inability to remember this detail raises significant questions.
    • She told the Washington Post that the party took place near the Columbia Country Club. The Club is more than 7 miles from her childhood home as the crow flies, and she testified that it was a roughly 20-minute drive from her childhood home.
    • She also agreed for the first time in her testimony that she was driven somewhere that night, either to the party or from the party or both.
    • Dr. Ford was able to describe hiding in the bathroom, locking the door, and subsequently exiting the house. She also described wanting to make sure that she did not look like she had been attacked.
    • But she has no memory of who drove her or when. Nor has anyone come forward to identify him or herself as the driver.
    • Given that this all took place before cell phones, arranging a ride home would not have been easy. Indeed, she stated that she ran out of the house after coming downstairs and did not state that she made a phone call from the house before she did, or that she called anyone else thereafter.
  • She does, however, remember small, distinct details from the party unrelated to the assault. For example, she testified that she had exactly one beer at the party and was taking no medication at the time of the alleged assault.
Yes? That's how the memory works.
10/1/2018 1:37 PM
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 11:00:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 10:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 10/1/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/1/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):
It may take 3 days for some guys in this thread to understand that post. Others never will.
"Because it is impossible to prove something didn't happen. You are asking him to prove a negative which is impossible."

Absolutely correct. BOTH statements.

I get that!

But,
It isn't about (for ME) the alleged Dr. Ford event.
It's that HE clearly is a liar.

He CLEARLY lied when HE claimed HE has never drank to excess enough to have suffered from "memory loss".

And THAT proves beyond any doubt that HE lied when HE said HE never could have done such an act, however silly and unimportant to most (except Dr. Ford, apparently) because HE clearly doesn't actually KNOW that he didn't because HE sometimes behaved like a drunken teen-ager.
And HE, with his legal and judicial experience, clearly KNOWS that he actually can't swear to NEVER, because HE knows he doesn't remember her (alleged) event, or any of the other (alleged) events. In short HE's a liar and has forfeited his opportunity to serve as a S.C. justice.

Too bad. He should have just said, Gaw'd I done me some dumb teen-age things and I apologize IF anything I ever did to Dr. Ford caused her harm, BUT I was only foolin' around."

He'd have been confirmed.

Now. He's toast.
Finished.
The FBI investigation will seal the deal!
Patience.

Trump gets a do-over.
For a smart guy Bob, you totally missed the point here. So I am going to make it for you and tang.

#1) bad luck is an idiot

#2) Bottom line --- only one person to blame here ---- DIANE FEINSTEIN!!!!

She could have easily shared the letter with the FBI and had them investigate the verasity. Instead she went to the press knowing that she could win in the court of public opinion but not in a court of law. What an underhanded and evil person she is. Because of this if Kav is innocent she ruined his rep and and his life 4ever. He is not allowed to coach his girls in hoops anymore, his daughters and wife are in shambles. If Ford is innocent (correct) she will forever be labeled by many as a tramp and a liar.

Ford asked for anonymity. Feinstein could have shared the letter with the authorities and done a behind the scene background check (like the Feds are doing now). It could have been discrete and confidential. Instead she leaked it at the last second and LIED about it. What a snake.

We can distpute Ford/Kav all day but there is ZERO dispute that Feinstein is a snake.
Kav wasn't going to coach his girls regardless of what happened.
Why not? LOL
Supreme Court job?
He sits on a high court now. Coaching is at night. I do it.
10/1/2018 2:07 PM
Posted by tangplay on 10/1/2018 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/1/2018 11:25:00 AM (view original):
  • Perhaps most importantly, she does not remember how she got from the party back to her house.
    • Her inability to remember this detail raises significant questions.
    • She told the Washington Post that the party took place near the Columbia Country Club. The Club is more than 7 miles from her childhood home as the crow flies, and she testified that it was a roughly 20-minute drive from her childhood home.
    • She also agreed for the first time in her testimony that she was driven somewhere that night, either to the party or from the party or both.
    • Dr. Ford was able to describe hiding in the bathroom, locking the door, and subsequently exiting the house. She also described wanting to make sure that she did not look like she had been attacked.
    • But she has no memory of who drove her or when. Nor has anyone come forward to identify him or herself as the driver.
    • Given that this all took place before cell phones, arranging a ride home would not have been easy. Indeed, she stated that she ran out of the house after coming downstairs and did not state that she made a phone call from the house before she did, or that she called anyone else thereafter.
  • She does, however, remember small, distinct details from the party unrelated to the assault. For example, she testified that she had exactly one beer at the party and was taking no medication at the time of the alleged assault.
Yes? That's how the memory works.
Conveniently? You're not at all skeptical here?
10/1/2018 2:08 PM
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