12x12 v5 - National League Draft Topic

Posted by good_beef on 1/30/2019 11:11:00 AM (view original):
2003 definitely isn't Pujols BEST seasons, but most of his seasons are pretty reliable & pretty much the same, I'm just saying there's no reason to Reach - for him in the first round, JUST to keep your total salary down? Players are going to be there anywhere, in the draft, even the 250k dead weight guys... To keep your salary down?
Not that I think the pick needs defending, but I'd like to point out:

A: Pujols slashed .359/.439/.667 that season. It's just a hair below 2008 for his best RC27 season. '65 Mays is great, but lower in every category (.317/.398/.645).
B. Much more importantly, it's his best season as an outfielder. This is critical because Bagwell has over 600 PA in every single remaining season and no other fielding position, so you either use him at 1B or waste a lot of money.
C. I still get to draft a Bagwell season and use that, too.
D. I still get to draft a Mays season and use that, too.
E. And I stay in the top of the next round to make my next pick before almost everyone else.
1/30/2019 11:25 AM
Posted by happyhours on 1/30/2019 10:44:00 AM (view original):
I think i am giving up RED MEAT
WHY? Red Meat is Good for you, it's just as healthy as being a vegetarian, which is not healthy at all, in my opinion, cuz you get no protein that way?

It all depends on what kind of FOOD you grew up with... I'm sure Oriental people thinking a RICE diet is perfectly healthy! I grew up with Beef & Potatoes, very little, vegetables except for the regular ones (green beans, celery, peas, onions, carrots, that's all you need) Cows eat nothing but grass, that's how you can get all your chlorophyll, second hand...

Asparagus, cauliflower, broccoli, brussel sprouts, spinach, squash - I won't touch the stuff?

When when I was about 8-9 years old, my mom served brussel sprouts for dinner on a Sunday night, I would NOT eat them. She said I had to sit there until I ate them. At about 3am, she told me to just go to sleep... She had to be at work in three hours, she never served brussel sprouts again, who taught WHO a lesson?

The draft is moving along now so sorry, Nothing but Short stories for now.
1/30/2019 11:38 AM (edited)
Posted by contrarian23 on 1/30/2019 7:33:00 AM (view original):
2018 Jay Bruce
$1659203
I should have taken that season instead. I hadn't done all the teammate research yet and totally forgot about DeGrom being on that team. Shoot ...
1/30/2019 11:37 AM
Posted by redcped on 1/30/2019 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by contrarian23 on 1/30/2019 7:33:00 AM (view original):
2018 Jay Bruce
$1659203
I should have taken that season instead. I hadn't done all the teammate research yet and totally forgot about DeGrom being on that team. Shoot ...
What do you mean ALL of the teammates info... As stated earlier, you can take just 1 teammate per player, except 1 player, which you can take 2? Weird rule, but we can't get around it, no worries, I guess... it seems like a lot of work being done, just to be able to drag 1 teammate with them, eh?
1/30/2019 11:48 AM (edited)
My nominated player of 1981 Nolan Ryan (220 IP, 1.12 whip, 0.12 hr/9) gives me lots of options for teammates, with Don Sutton (234 ip, 1.01 whip, 0.34 hr/9) , Bob Knepper and Dave Smith (111 ip, 1.03 whip, 0.24 hr/9). Plus, his other National League years aren't that great, although they do have good teammates.

Similar to my A.L. strategy, I basically assumed that I would be picking near the end of each round, so I wanted to draft the best versions of players and fill in the gaps with teammates. I targeted 1992 Curt Schilling (227 ip, 0.99 whip, 0.44 hr/9) right off the bat and was thrilled he was still left at pick 1.09. It took a few rounds when I realized that Schilling had other really good years and I didn't necessarily have to have the best one. A total of 43 picks were taken before the next Schilling got taken. I do like his teammate, and my starting catcher Darren Daulton (.270, .385, .524).

I missed all the good Willie Mays years, and I really wanted '84 Gooden but he went early in round 2 (I should have taken him instead of 92 Schilling). So I decided to save salary and take 1994 Dwight Gooden (his only remaining cheap season at $800K) which comes with a solid Bret Saberhagen, who I had penciled in as my fourth SP, until late in the draft, when instead I decided to keep 3B Bobby Bonilla (.290, .374, .504).

Continuing with my strategy, I grabbed the most expensive shortstop season, 1993 Jay Bell (.310, .392, .437 A/A). His teammate is a short innig reliever, Mark Dewey (27 ip, 0.90 whip, 0.00 hr/9)

In round 4, I strongly considered taking '96 or '97 Bagwell with this pick, but couldn't decided if I wanted the better Bagwell (96) or the better Biggio (97). I decided to wait another round and roster one of my favorite players, 2001 Lance Berkman (.331, .430, .620) via 2001 Mike Williams. This was a huge mistake as both 96 and 97 Bagwell went in the next 6 picks. I could've simply taken 2001 Bagwell later and got Berkman and saved Williams for a different teammate.

With this pick, I changed my mind a number of times. I almost grabbed 91 Dykstra because I wanted to platoon him with 71 Mays, whom I haven't taken yet. But this Dykstra didn't have the right teammates. I then realized that my Bagwell screwup means I am probably not going to get a good Biggio, so I decided to grab the most expensive Cash season, 1975 Dave Cash (.305, .356, .388, B/A-). At least I have a good infield defense. He brings along an important piece, 95 plate appearances at catcher with Tim McCarver (.288, .400, .400) as Daulton is a bit short on

Both 91 Dykstra and 71 Mays were still left on the board, so I decided to take 1971 Willie Mays (.271, .425, .482) - a perfect leadoff hitter, hoping 91 or 92 Dykstra would make it back to me next round. Originally I was going to use Steve Hamilton as a teammate, but realized that I still don't have a good 3B, so at this point, I decided to scratch '94 Saberhagen as my 4th SP and instead use Juan Marichal (279 ip, 1.08 whip, 0.8 hr/9) despite his high HR frequency. I could then pivot back to '94 Bobby Bonilla as my Gooden teammate.

Round 7: I was going to take 91 Dykstra here, but a quick glance at the Bagwells left made me realize that if I don't take one now, I could get stuck with a not so great Bagwell, so I grabbed the best one left, 2001 Jeff Bagwell (.288, .397, .568). Now I really wish I hadn't wasted that Williams pick in round 4. At least I can add a long reliever and spot starter, Roy Oswalt (142 ip, 1.06 whip, 0.83 hr/9)

Now I grab 1991 Lenny Dykstra (.297, .391, .427) to platoon with Mays. I still needed a third OF, and I discover that 1991 John Kruk (.294, .367, 483) actually is a good fielding outfielder (A/B-) at his secondary position.

At this point in the draft, I have my starting lineup, my starting pitching rotation, but I need relievers. My next pick, 2009 Jay Bruce saves me salary and gives me RP Nick Masset (76 ip, 1.03 whip, 0.71 hr/9). Unfortunately, this pick caused a domino effect in the draft where my last two picks were defaulted to me as both 1995 Darryl Kile and 1996 Jason Isringhausen were the last options left for me. I should have taken 2006 Izzy instead of 09 Bruce and upgraded 91 Kruk to 96 Pujols (who could've played OF for me). Instead, I added 1995 Mike Henneman (57 ip, 1.15 whip, 0.18 hr/9). Izzy has no good pitching teammates and I had extra salary so my choices were Bernard Gilkey (I have too many RH hitters already) or Lance Johnson (.333, .362, .479).

My offense is pretty pedestrian, but I have good defense and strong starting pitching. I have only $10.6 million of effective salary. I think my pitching and defense can scrape together 84-88 wins.

Hitting: .302, .390, .492, $54.5 million (excluding Kruk)
Pitching: 1373 ip, 1.05 whip, .216 oav, 0.52 hr/9, $46.1 million
2/7/2019 12:06 AM (edited)
May I assume there's no restriction on selecting the same single season twice? I'm sure people have noticed there are some overlapping seasons (92-93 Phillies, for instance, are on three lists). So, in theory, if you wanted a lot of teammates from one of those teams you could draft them more than once.
1/30/2019 12:07 PM
Posted by redcped on 1/30/2019 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by contrarian23 on 1/30/2019 7:33:00 AM (view original):
2018 Jay Bruce
$1659203
I should have taken that season instead. I hadn't done all the teammate research yet and totally forgot about DeGrom being on that team. Shoot ...
3 days of researching Stats & you made a Mistake, Imagine THAT! Missed the Boat on that, I guess?
1/30/2019 12:07 PM
Posted by good_beef on 1/30/2019 12:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by redcped on 1/30/2019 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by contrarian23 on 1/30/2019 7:33:00 AM (view original):
2018 Jay Bruce
$1659203
I should have taken that season instead. I hadn't done all the teammate research yet and totally forgot about DeGrom being on that team. Shoot ...
3 days of researching Stats & you made a Mistake, Imagine THAT! Missed the Boat on that, I guess?
No, I think you read my post wrong. We made initial picks at the outset and had to select one season from our player. I went for the cheapest one, but I overlooked another cheap season with a better teammate option. I didn't look at all the teammates from all his seasons at that point.
1/30/2019 12:10 PM
Posted by redcped on 1/30/2019 12:07:00 PM (view original):
May I assume there's no restriction on selecting the same single season twice? I'm sure people have noticed there are some overlapping seasons (92-93 Phillies, for instance, are on three lists). So, in theory, if you wanted a lot of teammates from one of those teams you could draft them more than once.
Correct. I have already selected 92 Schilling. I could also select 92 Dysktra (Phi) and 92 Williams (Phi). Then I would need to take three different 92 Phillies teammates
1/30/2019 12:33 PM
2007 Jason Isrighausen $2,333,441
1/30/2019 1:44 PM
Sorry for the delay...

1987 Nolan Ryan $7,095,236
1/30/2019 1:47 PM
Kile, Darryl 2002 St. Louis Cardinals 1,642,705
1/30/2019 2:27 PM
ROUND 1
Owner________ Prev. Salary___ Player________ Salary_______ New Salary____
calhoop 432,882 05 Bagwell 766,546 1,199,428
redcped 874,640 03 Isringhausen 1,314,618 2,189,258
mpitt76 1,698,985 02 Schilling 9,231,360 10,930,345
contrarian23 5,329,991 18 Bruce 1,659,203 6,989,194
good_beef 5,863,426 65 Mays 9,334,158 15,197,584
royhobbs09 7,195,955 66 Mays 6,927,753 14,123,708
happyhours 7,324,272 63 Mays 8,484,139 15,808,411
joerat1 7,837,358 86 Ryan 5,541,379 13,378,737
schwarze 9,298,123 92 Schilling 8,067,696 17,365,819
Lincoln15 9,956,036 07 Isringhausen 2,333,441 12,289,477
njbigwig 11,959,629 87 Ryan 7,095,236 19,054,865
Chisock 12,251,170 02 Kile 1,642,705 13,893,875
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1971 Nolan Ryan $3,098,927
1/30/2019 3:18 PM
1984 Dwight Gooden $8232727
1/30/2019 3:28 PM
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