Your count is no more accurate than this years census. The bias is clearly showing. Just which "people" are being oppressed today? The Jews or the Palestinians? On a global basis I just don't see the Jewish people being all that oppressed anymore. Of course there ain't many of 'em round these parts.
They's actually scarcer than Indians.

Posted by laramiebob on 5/12/2021 7:21:00 PM (view original):
Your count is no more accurate than this years census. The bias is clearly showing. Just which "people" are being oppressed today? The Jews or the Palestinians? On a global basis I just don't see the Jewish people being all that oppressed anymore. Of course there ain't many of 'em round these parts.
They's actually scarcer than Indians.

You don’t know as much about history as you think you do. I count you as one of the 2 I can’t define.

No criticism is allowed to be made of Palestinians, none at all. Even Yang has been forced to apologize.

Just another protected group. Another biased narrative.

I am just hoping this wakes up my Jewish friends on the left (myself an agnostic Jew), that they may see the insidious ways that the modern left works.

They are on the far left of the Dems and the far right brother and so called independents who vote third parties.

Free Palestine Now!

The United Nations should invade Criminal Israel!

Posted by dino27 on 5/12/2021 8:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 5/12/2021 7:21:00 PM (view original):
Your count is no more accurate than this years census. The bias is clearly showing. Just which "people" are being oppressed today? The Jews or the Palestinians? On a global basis I just don't see the Jewish people being all that oppressed anymore. Of course there ain't many of 'em round these parts.
They's actually scarcer than Indians.

You don’t know as much about history as you think you do. I count you as one of the 2 I can’t define.

I'm certainly NOT any Historian, and in fact most of the knowledge I do possess (historically) is centered around the clash of cultures within Apacheria (and the general southwest) during the so-called "settlement" of Arizona (and New Mexico). As that "clash" was interrupted by our OWN Civil War a certain amount of knowledge was gleaned about that conflict as well. Thus, any historical conclusions I might make are based on the actions of the "peoples" (and Gov't's) involved within that clash.

It's quite easy (at THIS point) to conclude which culture acted in the manner that they did, and in large part WHY they acted and re-acted as they did.
It's also rather easy (for ME) to conclude where the failures of understanding (you can read that word as ignorance if you wish) resulted in cultural arrogance and criminal activity (such as extermination policies!) being committed upon the other (generally trusting) culture. What makes the Apache war(s) so different is that the Apache fought back, and for a time (as OUR Gov't's attention was diverted) actually achieved success in regaining control of their territory. So much so that, OUR Gov't sent out TWO separate and distinct peace commissions in attempts to secure peace with the Apache.

The 2nd one, (under General O.O. Howard) achieved and secured peace, along with a treaty with the Great Chief (Cochise) of the Chiracahua, establishing a secure Reservation with distinct boundaries, and gaining the re-opening of the travel route thru Apache Pass and appointing the wise Taglito (Tom Jeffords) as the Agent in charge of the Reservation. You can easily read about what happened after Cochise died and OUR Gov't broke it's word (again!) to the Indian people.

As far as you not being able to define me. TY. I'm very proud that you can't.
I'm not sure I could adequately define myself with just letters from a keyboard.
I'm a human........ with a heart and a mind.......... and I TRY to use Both.
Peace out. Walk in beauty.

Posted by Guitarguy567 on 5/13/2021 7:32:00 AM (view original):
No criticism is allowed to be made of Palestinians, none at all. Even Yang has been forced to apologize.

Just another protected group. Another biased narrative.

I am just hoping this wakes up my Jewish friends on the left (myself an agnostic Jew), that they may see the insidious ways that the modern left works.

It's insane to me that you'll make this criticism of the left (which might be accurate, I don't like Hamas but I do know that a lot of lefties are dogmatic) but won't do the same of the other side. My only statements have been that bombing children, colonization, and ethnostates are all bad, yet I've repeatedly been called antisemitic despite being a Jew myself.

Or apply this to Trump and the GOP. You aren't allowed to criticize Trump on the right. Dems can criticize Biden. We do it all the time. Republicans are NOT ALLOWED to criticize Trump. Liz Cheney just lost her leadership position, and for what? Not buying into the lie that the election was stolen? Being too mean to Dear Leader?

I genuinely do not understand how you think the left is more in line with each other than the right is. You realize that leftists are infamous for infighting, right? That doesn't happen on the far right, nearly as much.

Posted by tangplay on 5/13/2021 12:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Guitarguy567 on 5/13/2021 7:32:00 AM (view original):
No criticism is allowed to be made of Palestinians, none at all. Even Yang has been forced to apologize.

Just another protected group. Another biased narrative.

I am just hoping this wakes up my Jewish friends on the left (myself an agnostic Jew), that they may see the insidious ways that the modern left works.

It's insane to me that you'll make this criticism of the left (which might be accurate, I don't like Hamas but I do know that a lot of lefties are dogmatic) but won't do the same of the other side. My only statements have been that bombing children, colonization, and ethnostates are all bad, yet I've repeatedly been called antisemitic despite being a Jew myself.

Not Jewish but a schmuck.
btw - who is hamas trying to bomb?
a Mennonite believing in the divinity of Jesus wants to call himself Jewish.
I guess being Jewish is fluid.
I know a minister who had his son bar mitzvahed at my childhood synagogue. It was for culture.
the kid was never considered Jewish.
and again - universal Jewish law and tradition literally forbids anyone who believes in the divinity of Jesus or any human from being considered Jewish.
I am white and I can call myself black but I am not black no matter what I say.
you are a schmuck for calling yourself Jewish.
you insult the Jewish people.

I consider you a vitriolic antisemite.
if people like you had power Israel would be obliterated.
you are an attacker of the Jewish homeland because it is jewish.

Thanks for proving my point, dino. Lunatic behavior.

I like Jewish people. I don't like some of what Israel does. Should Israel exist? Sure! I like the idea of a state that is obligated to treat Jews well, especially in the middle east. Does that mean I am ok with all of Israel's behavior? NO!

Note that Dino wouldn't respond to my Jewish state post, because if you believe Israel should be a "Jewish State" you must also believe in a white state, black state, Muslim state, Christian state, etc.

Israel must be a Jewish state for the Jews to be protected moron.

Protect Morons, too I say. But I'm a "leftist" says some.
I consider the alternative...........there ARE many I would (probably) like to "eliminate" but then........ should I get to decide?

WHO gets to decide who is worthy? Not me.
I've survived 2 heart attacks, the latest just a month ago.......... I'm likely not worthy of my fortune, nor my care.
But I don't get the call. Ussen does.

Either that or I'm just too stupid or stubborn to die.

I figure that Ussen cares just as much for the Individual Palestinian as he does for the average Jew.
And vice versa. Thus, occupation of territory that should belong to the Palestinians is wrong.
Is the present situation all Israel's fault? No, of course not.

But have they (The State) done anything to lessen the burden, to ease the pain of the Palestinian People lately? Again, No.
They, instead, have continued building settlements.......... OCCUPYING!

Eventually they'll send the Palestinians to Eastern Oklahoma or somewheres such and assign an "Agent" to 'em.........

God help them then!

Posted by dino27 on 5/13/2021 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Israel must be a Jewish state for the Jews to be protected moron.

America can never have civil rights until we kick all the white people out, is the argument I think you're making right now.

You are not worth the time.