Decade Draft League 44--2015-16 to 24-25 - need 1! Topic

I really think you are probably doing as good a job as you can.

If you are wanting an opinion: concentrate on updating the alpha list as the draft unfolds..
It seems to be a continual source of confusion.
That leads to countless owners needing to repick.

Opinion #2
Once you have established times associated with draft picks,
Then that almost always determines when the draft will end,
regardless of those you have identified as being ‘too slow’.
That's when the draft will end.
If the draft unfolds quickly, then who remembers the 12 hours or full day for the early finish?
But I'm sure your continuing caterwauling and incessant rudeness are memorable.

Spend your effort and ability on updating drafted players list
And let your scheduled draft times serve its function.

Your conduct is consistently rude and demeaning.
(am I remembering the last draft where you ranted and raved
at one of my picks that was submitted properly?)

You are dealing with a limited pool of people on WIS, and
Continuing with your negativity isn't helping the theme.
5/13/2025 9:19 PM
Posted by cmcafeeky on 5/13/2025 9:09:00 AM (view original):
I enter themes knowing and possessing the understanding that when my real life responsibilities interfere with my submitting a draft pick or proxy,
that MY OWN TEAM is going to directly suffer, and that it is disappointing to fellow owners waiting for their own opportunities.

I cant speak for others, but often times it is IMPOSSIBLE to submit picks or proxies in as timely a fashion as would be ideal.

I'm married
I am a teacher often pushed into behavior classes.
Im a football coach
Pep Club sponsor in charge of homecoming
Chess Club sponsor, etc. etc.

I don't think I'm the only person interested in What If sports
that has responsibilities that cant be averted in order to draft or submit proxies as quickly as 23 other owners would enjoy.



Hasn't the new rule made things easier for people with tight schedules? Are you complaining that it will run too slowly, and you'd prefer the old rule of 30 min per pick?
5/14/2025 8:53 AM
I think a problem is that people are often unable to make their picks in a 3 hour window depending on the time of day. My days can get very busy and a 3 hour window will be hard to manage. ESPECIALLY if there is no clock for me to predict when I may be up. I am aware of this and will try to plan ahead.

Say I am 5 picks away @ 9:00 am on a Wednesday but we have 5 owners who are ready to go and they pick in rapid succession. Suddenly I am up @ 09:30 am. However, on a Thursday I am often too busy with work to be on the sim from 09:30- 3:30. The results would be me being skipped AND missing a crap ton of picks after me. UNLESS I use proxies but........

Proxy lists are helpful and I use them frequently, HOWEVER they require extensive research on the available picks and who would fit your team at any given point in a draft. I 100% understand not everyone can't always do that much work just in case you aren't available for your pick. Most owners who don't or can't are aware they may be skipped.

I am happy to play this season but I think it might be a little unfair not to give players who struggled in the old format a chance to at least attempt to draft better in the new format that is designed to perhaps help people with tighter schedules.
But that is just my opinion, take it or leave it
5/14/2025 9:20 AM
Posted by samuelyork93 on 5/14/2025 9:20:00 AM (view original):
I think a problem is that people are often unable to make their picks in a 3 hour window depending on the time of day. My days can get very busy and a 3 hour window will be hard to manage. ESPECIALLY if there is no clock for me to predict when I may be up. I am aware of this and will try to plan ahead.

Say I am 5 picks away @ 9:00 am on a Wednesday but we have 5 owners who are ready to go and they pick in rapid succession. Suddenly I am up @ 09:30 am. However, on a Thursday I am often too busy with work to be on the sim from 09:30- 3:30. The results would be me being skipped AND missing a crap ton of picks after me. UNLESS I use proxies but........

Proxy lists are helpful and I use them frequently, HOWEVER they require extensive research on the available picks and who would fit your team at any given point in a draft. I 100% understand not everyone can't always do that much work just in case you aren't available for your pick. Most owners who don't or can't are aware they may be skipped.

I am happy to play this season but I think it might be a little unfair not to give players who struggled in the old format a chance to at least attempt to draft better in the new format that is designed to perhaps help people with tighter schedules.
But that is just my opinion, take it or leave it
Thanks for this. Makes sense. I find the 30 minute window really difficult to navigate, so I'm happy to see it extended it out to 3hrs, but I can see how depending on schedule, it might be harder to have the 3hr window sneak up on you. At least now I get email notifications when I get a sitemail, which is very helpful.
5/14/2025 1:29 PM (edited)
Posted by samuelyork93 on 5/14/2025 9:20:00 AM (view original):
I think a problem is that people are often unable to make their picks in a 3 hour window depending on the time of day. My days can get very busy and a 3 hour window will be hard to manage. ESPECIALLY if there is no clock for me to predict when I may be up. I am aware of this and will try to plan ahead.

Say I am 5 picks away @ 9:00 am on a Wednesday but we have 5 owners who are ready to go and they pick in rapid succession. Suddenly I am up @ 09:30 am. However, on a Thursday I am often too busy with work to be on the sim from 09:30- 3:30. The results would be me being skipped AND missing a crap ton of picks after me. UNLESS I use proxies but........

Proxy lists are helpful and I use them frequently, HOWEVER they require extensive research on the available picks and who would fit your team at any given point in a draft. I 100% understand not everyone can't always do that much work just in case you aren't available for your pick. Most owners who don't or can't are aware they may be skipped.

I am happy to play this season but I think it might be a little unfair not to give players who struggled in the old format a chance to at least attempt to draft better in the new format that is designed to perhaps help people with tighter schedules.
But that is just my opinion, take it or leave it
Good points.

The 30 minute format serves to regulate the frequency of picks and ensures the draft will be completed within a planned time frame. With the 30 minute format, any delay is a consequence of people getting out in front of their time slot. Essentially, the efficiency of some places others as seeming "laggards" when in fact their time slot has not been reached. Understood, this can be frustrating because time banked has now been lost.

The 3 hour format is going to regulate the frequency of picks, but at longer intervals. Owners will have less incentive to get their picks in quickly because everyone now has a 3 hour lead time. With this format we may get as few as 4 or 5 picks a day. This format solves the problem of the laggard owner but potentially lengthens the time to complete the entire draft.

Begs the question: What are we trying to fix? Getting those with a lousy reputation in terms of timeliness to pick more quickly or to keep the number of draft days to a minimum?

JMO.
5/14/2025 1:47 PM
It is frustrating when we get way ahead of schedule and someone lags way behind , but that’s because we are way ahead of schedule. If we just start with the 30min time slot from the beginning,everyone knows when they have to pick and can prepare for that time slot. Having a 3hr window seems to me like this draft will take substantially longer and more difficult to be prepared.
5/14/2025 5:16 PM
Posted by cmcafeeky on 5/13/2025 9:16:00 AM (view original):
So, for those who have been barred or prevented from entering this theme (my apologies),
I'd certainly like to offer you an invitation to join my league.

poddy
redbooda
cem6989

?We rarely have openings, but Ill certainly give you first dibs on a franchise.

I'll post a schedule with draft times, take your proxies as needed, and even text you personally if a prompt is helpful.

Also, I'll understand that if you miss your allotted time and are skipped, that its usually indicative of
things outside of your control. Hopefully in that theme we are participating to enjoy ourselves and that interacting with other nerds is fun
when it gives you an opportunity to talk about basketball instead of ******** about someone missing a pick or drafting a player who was selected way back in round one.

cmkafeeky, I am one of the people that this amerk ******* has banned from this league. I may be interested in joining your your league, depending upon what it is. Can you let me know, maybe by sitemail? I too am a basketball historian. In fact, a friend of mine was the official NBA historian for a number of years. Bill Himmelman. He met David Stern at a class reunion for his wife's class. I think it was Teaneck High School in New Jersey.

I am mainly interested in just 20th century basketball, before all this crazy 3 point shooting took over the game.

Bruce Grossberg
5/14/2025 5:31 PM
I invite everyone to look at the current Savage draft going on, and look specifically at the time span between picks. What that draft hjas is 24 owners who actually care about NOT HOLDING UP THE DRAFT, and do whatever they can to know when they pick, how many picks away the draft is from their pick and so on. If they think the draft will get to their pick in the next hour or two or three and they think they might be busy in a meeting, running errands or whatever....they send a proxy list. I also know that many of them have each others cell #'s and text each other when they are on deck or up. That draft has NO CLOCK, and started on SUNDAY....and we are now in round EIGHT today! Tgat us TWICE AS FAST as a DDL draft with a one round per day clock would be!!!

That is my ultimate goal--to get everyone on that same page as the Savage or midge52 draft. I think everyone can do it, but everyone needs to be dedicated to trying to do what they can do to keep up.
5/14/2025 9:51 PM
I really like the concept of this league and want to be in, but I can't commit to a floating 3 hour pick window - even with texts and proxies. Give me a time slot and I will nail it.

I also don't support banning good owners who are following the written rules.

If the goal is to get the draft done as quickly as possible, why not just go to a 15 minute pick window and do 2 rounds every day?
5/15/2025 8:49 AM (edited)
How about a live draft and 90 second timer? We could be done in 1 night. ??
5/15/2025 6:06 PM
I guess I will take 2 teams.
5/21/2025 12:04 AM
Posted by chewy3344 on 5/15/2025 6:07:00 PM (view original):
How about a live draft and 90 second timer? We could be done in 1 night. ??
I am all for it!
5/21/2025 12:48 AM
OK, I am gonna put redboooda on the list, as long as he promises to use proxy lists when needed or be skipped. This is a very reluctant decision because I have serious doubts that he actually WILL sitemail proxy lists, and probably slow the draft down for three hours and then be skipped for at least half the rounds. But is sounds like everyone else would rather have him and have one less spot to fill, so I'll do it. Don't blame me for the consequences!
5/21/2025 5:32 PM
A belated CONGRATULATIONS to 24kpyrite for winning DDL 43, tgus denying riftonapple back to back titles.Great job guys...great drafts and great team managhement!
5/21/2025 5:40 PM
Hoping we fill in a day or 2. Holiday weekend coming up. I for one would not be in favor of starting on a holiday weekend.
5/22/2025 9:54 AM
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