I said this about 52 pages ago...
You guys are talking PAST each other, and are arguing completely different points.
Mike: Striking out doesn't help your team that inning [TRUE]
Nuke: Over the course of a season, teams that strike out more score just as many runs [likely TRUE]
Bill: Some women like short men [doubtful, or doughtful if spelling challenged] and double-plays are the worst things since plus-sized thongs
Mike's argument is focused on that ONE at-bat. Nuke is harping on season-long stats. Bill is still re-living Freddie Patek's GIDP that ended the 1977 ALCS.