Big Macs and KFC are good enough for Dear leader

And like we've shown, there are plenty of inexpensive low-fat protein choices.

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Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2019 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, you can do rice and beans for about $0.10 a serving combined. You still need other things: salt, onions, garlic, oil, etc. to cook the beans but if you want to live on rice and beans, one person can do it for less than a dollar a day.

Obviously, that's not "healthy," but it's cheaper than hot dogs and soda.

Where would you buy it in bulk? Salt, onions, garlic, oil, etc. all cost money. Remember the poor don't frequently have Costco cards. They live week to week. Hot dogs and eggs are easy to make. Soda is cheap. Pasta is fairly cheap. Fruits, vegetables, legumes are pricier. Milk is pricey. Quality meats are pricey as well.

Walmart.

You can buy 250 servings of dried pinto beans for $14. 200 servings of rice for $8.

That's about $0.30 a day for one person. Yeah, garlic and onions and oil and salt cost money, but you're still under $1 a day if you buy those in bulk and use them to cook the beans. (And you don't have to have them, you can just cook the beans in water)

Beans will probably not fill you up. Franks and beans, sure. Rice/Beans still doesn't get you fruits and vegetables, which to me are essential.

Rice and beans can fill you up. Lots and lots of very poor people live on rice and beans.

Yes and they look skinny and malnourished. Fruits, vegetables, proteins like fish or chicken or tofu if you're not a meat eater are criticial IMO.

Fruits and vegetables are absolutely necessary. Meats aren't. Even tofu isn't. There are competitive powerlifters who are vegan, many avoid soy products.

Seriously? Where do they get their iron? Interesting.

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 12:31:00 PM (view original):
It's not naive. It's the truth. Some people have to work harder than others, but anyone can do it. Saying they can't is naive.

By the way, I pay $19 for a 10 lb bag of boneless, skinless chicken. That comes out to less than $1/piece. As I said, it's cheap.

It's 100% naive.

Some people can lose weight. Most who do, gain it back plus some. Your body sets your fat cell count for life sometime around puberty. If you're unlucky enough to be overweight as a kid, chances are you can never shake it as an adult because you have a high fat cell count. You can shrink the fat cells with a good diet, but not get rid of them. And the fat cells are programmed to want to refill, so you'll literally struggle against biology for the rest of your life. Someone lucky enough to get through puberty without getting fat has a lower fat cell count. They have an easier time avoiding weight-gain as an adult and, if they do gain weight, have an easier time losing it.

Another factor is gut bacteria. There was a obese woman with some sort of nasty infection. She had to take a hard-core antibiotic to deal with the infection and it wiped out her gut bacteria. The doctors transplanted gut bacteria from her daughter (who was not obese) and the woman lost all the weight without changing her diet.

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Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2019 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, you can do rice and beans for about $0.10 a serving combined. You still need other things: salt, onions, garlic, oil, etc. to cook the beans but if you want to live on rice and beans, one person can do it for less than a dollar a day.

Obviously, that's not "healthy," but it's cheaper than hot dogs and soda.

Where would you buy it in bulk? Salt, onions, garlic, oil, etc. all cost money. Remember the poor don't frequently have Costco cards. They live week to week. Hot dogs and eggs are easy to make. Soda is cheap. Pasta is fairly cheap. Fruits, vegetables, legumes are pricier. Milk is pricey. Quality meats are pricey as well.

Walmart.

You can buy 250 servings of dried pinto beans for $14. 200 servings of rice for $8.

That's about $0.30 a day for one person. Yeah, garlic and onions and oil and salt cost money, but you're still under $1 a day if you buy those in bulk and use them to cook the beans. (And you don't have to have them, you can just cook the beans in water)

Beans will probably not fill you up. Franks and beans, sure. Rice/Beans still doesn't get you fruits and vegetables, which to me are essential.

Rice and beans can fill you up. Lots and lots of very poor people live on rice and beans.

Yes and they look skinny and malnourished. Fruits, vegetables, proteins like fish or chicken or tofu if you're not a meat eater are criticial IMO.

Fruits and vegetables are absolutely necessary. Meats aren't. Even tofu isn't. There are competitive powerlifters who are vegan, many avoid soy products.

Seriously? Where do they get their iron? Interesting.

Beans have tons of iron. It's not heme iron so it isn't absorbed as easily but I'm assuming a competitive powerlifter is taking supplements. And a normal person doesn't need a ton of iron.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 12:31:00 PM (view original):
It's not naive. It's the truth. Some people have to work harder than others, but anyone can do it. Saying they can't is naive.

By the way, I pay $19 for a 10 lb bag of boneless, skinless chicken. That comes out to less than $1/piece. As I said, it's cheap.

It's 100% naive.

Some people can lose weight. Most who do, gain it back plus some. Your body sets your fat cell count for life sometime around puberty. If you're unlucky enough to be overweight as a kid, chances are you can never shake it as an adult because you have a high fat cell count. You can shrink the fat cells with a good diet, but not get rid of them. And the fat cells are programmed to want to refill, so you'll literally struggle against biology for the rest of your life. Someone lucky enough to get through puberty without getting fat has a lower fat cell count. They have an easier time avoiding weight-gain as an adult and, if they do gain weight, have an easier time losing it.

Another factor is gut bacteria. There was a obese woman with some sort of nasty infection. She had to take a hard-core antibiotic to deal with the infection and it wiped out her gut bacteria. The doctors transplanted gut bacteria from her daughter (who was not obese) and the woman lost all the weight without changing her diet.

You're giving rare examples. 99% of the people are overweight due to poor diet, lack of exercise and lack of will power. I was super skinny as a kid so I had to work extra hard at the gym to put on weight. I could have stayed skinny. Conversely if I were obese I would work extra hard at dropping LBs by running, biking, sports, weights and a better diet. I don't care if you want to be fat and unhealthy but you should not paying the same for healthcare as I am. You pay more for life insurance. No one is arguing about that. Why?

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Posted by all3 on 2/5/2019 8:53:00 AM (view original):
I agree, with one addition - any health problems people have solely because of their excess weight should NOT be covered by any health insurance.
People are free to be fat, but should NOT then expect others to help pay for their issues.
I feel exactly the same about smoking, alcohol, et al. If the health problem is self-induced by choices, it should NOT become anyone's responsibility other than the person who made those choices. That's a "win" for those who want to make bad choices, and a "win" for those who don't want to be responsible for other's bad choices.

This is about a stupid as it gets.

We don’t even fully understand obesity. There’s way more going on there—genetics, gut bacteria, hormones, endocrine disrupters in food packaging and skin care products, etc.—than just diet.

The idea that we wouldn’t allow health problems caused by obesity to be covered by insurance is completely bonkers.

You're so freaking literal. This is not at all what his post said. Learn to read. Bad Leftist.

lol - roflol.

You are blocking the author of this post, dino27.

drumpf...lol.

Y'all take the back and forth ******** to another thread.

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Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2019 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, you can do rice and beans for about $0.10 a serving combined. You still need other things: salt, onions, garlic, oil, etc. to cook the beans but if you want to live on rice and beans, one person can do it for less than a dollar a day.

Obviously, that's not "healthy," but it's cheaper than hot dogs and soda.

Where would you buy it in bulk? Salt, onions, garlic, oil, etc. all cost money. Remember the poor don't frequently have Costco cards. They live week to week. Hot dogs and eggs are easy to make. Soda is cheap. Pasta is fairly cheap. Fruits, vegetables, legumes are pricier. Milk is pricey. Quality meats are pricey as well.

Walmart.

You can buy 250 servings of dried pinto beans for $14. 200 servings of rice for $8.

That's about $0.30 a day for one person. Yeah, garlic and onions and oil and salt cost money, but you're still under $1 a day if you buy those in bulk and use them to cook the beans. (And you don't have to have them, you can just cook the beans in water)

Beans will probably not fill you up. Franks and beans, sure. Rice/Beans still doesn't get you fruits and vegetables, which to me are essential.

Rice and beans can fill you up. Lots and lots of very poor people live on rice and beans.

Yes and they look skinny and malnourished. Fruits, vegetables, proteins like fish or chicken or tofu if you're not a meat eater are criticial IMO.

Fruits and vegetables are absolutely necessary. Meats aren't. Even tofu isn't. There are competitive powerlifters who are vegan, many avoid soy products.

I am a vegetarian who doesn't eat tofu often and has enough protein.

ill take the high road...

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Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 12:31:00 PM (view original):
It's not naive. It's the truth. Some people have to work harder than others, but anyone can do it. Saying they can't is naive.

By the way, I pay $19 for a 10 lb bag of boneless, skinless chicken. That comes out to less than $1/piece. As I said, it's cheap.

It's 100% naive.

Some people can lose weight. Most who do, gain it back plus some. Your body sets your fat cell count for life sometime around puberty. If you're unlucky enough to be overweight as a kid, chances are you can never shake it as an adult because you have a high fat cell count. You can shrink the fat cells with a good diet, but not get rid of them. And the fat cells are programmed to want to refill, so you'll literally struggle against biology for the rest of your life. Someone lucky enough to get through puberty without getting fat has a lower fat cell count. They have an easier time avoiding weight-gain as an adult and, if they do gain weight, have an easier time losing it.

Another factor is gut bacteria. There was a obese woman with some sort of nasty infection. She had to take a hard-core antibiotic to deal with the infection and it wiped out her gut bacteria. The doctors transplanted gut bacteria from her daughter (who was not obese) and the woman lost all the weight without changing her diet.

It's not naive. As I said, to think that people can't control their weight is naive. Some people have to work harder than others, but it is possible for everyone. You keep saying "they ate the same diet." This should tell you right there where your logic is flawed. Two people can eat the same diet and gain/lose weight at different rates. Each person's body chemistry is different. Each diet has to be tailored to each specific person. You are right about why people gain weight, but you are wrong that obesity can't be avoided for some people. If you are fat, it's on you. It's that simple.

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ill take the high road...

Thank you.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 12:31:00 PM (view original):
It's not naive. It's the truth. Some people have to work harder than others, but anyone can do it. Saying they can't is naive.

By the way, I pay $19 for a 10 lb bag of boneless, skinless chicken. That comes out to less than $1/piece. As I said, it's cheap.

It's 100% naive.

Some people can lose weight. Most who do, gain it back plus some. Your body sets your fat cell count for life sometime around puberty. If you're unlucky enough to be overweight as a kid, chances are you can never shake it as an adult because you have a high fat cell count. You can shrink the fat cells with a good diet, but not get rid of them. And the fat cells are programmed to want to refill, so you'll literally struggle against biology for the rest of your life. Someone lucky enough to get through puberty without getting fat has a lower fat cell count. They have an easier time avoiding weight-gain as an adult and, if they do gain weight, have an easier time losing it.

Another factor is gut bacteria. There was a obese woman with some sort of nasty infection. She had to take a hard-core antibiotic to deal with the infection and it wiped out her gut bacteria. The doctors transplanted gut bacteria from her daughter (who was not obese) and the woman lost all the weight without changing her diet.

It's not naive. As I said, to think that people can't control their weight is naive. Some people have to work harder than others, but it is possible for everyone. You keep saying "they ate the same diet." This should tell you right there where your logic is flawed. Two people can eat the same diet and gain/lose weight at different rates. Each person's body chemistry is different. Each diet has to be tailored to each specific person. You are right about why people gain weight, but you are wrong that obesity can't be avoided for some people. If you are fat, it's on you. It's that simple.

^^^THIS^^^

Again we should not be paying the same for health insurance if I am healthier than you.