Savage II Commentary Thread Topic

Posted by jhsukow on 8/13/2020 3:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 8/13/2020 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 8/13/2020 3:04:00 PM (view original):
I'm in kind of a tough spot. The division optimizer has been running for 10 days. I can't decide what will be quicker: letting it finish or killing it and trying to write something more efficient that will be quicker.
I killed it.
The King is dead.
rest in power
beefy solver
LMAO
8/13/2020 4:17 PM
Luka in the sixth, huh? That's REALLY banking on the 19-20 seasons.
8/13/2020 4:18 PM
Suns vs. Mavs right now. If we lose, we're out. If we win, maybe.....
8/13/2020 4:18 PM
Nobody is in the same division more than twice.
World 1 World 2 World 3 World 4 World 5
16 6 9 10 11 Div 1
23 15 15 11 9 Div 1
15 3 13 7 20 Div 1
5 4 14 18 13 Div 1
3 17 18 5 2 Div 1
20 2 5 17 23 Div 1
14 21 1 22 21 Div 2
9 23 6 4 7 Div 2
17 7 4 13 14 Div 2
19 13 20 19 24 Div 2
11 10 10 3 5 Div 2
8 22 8 8 4 Div 2
24 14 22 24 6 Div 3
22 11 23 23 3 Div 3
1 8 21 14 19 Div 3
18 18 19 16 18 Div 3
7 20 17 6 12 Div 3
6 16 24 2 10 Div 3
10 12 11 12 1 Div 4
4 24 12 21 16 Div 4
21 19 16 9 22 Div 4
2 1 7 15 15 Div 4
13 9 2 20 8 Div 4
12 5 3 1 17 Div 4
8/13/2020 4:42 PM
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
1 0 0 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 0 2 0 0 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 0 2
2 0 2 2 0 2 1 0 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 0 2 1
3 0 2 2 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 2 1 0 2 2 1 1 2 1 0 1 1 0
4 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 0 2 0 1 2 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 2 1 0 1
5 1 0 1 1 0 2 0 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 0 1 2
6 2 2 2 2 0 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 2
7 1 1 1 1 2 1 0 0 2 2 1 1 1 0 1 1 2 0 0 2 2 1 2
8 2 0 1 2 0 1 0 1 1 2 0 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 0 2 0 0
9 2 1 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 2 2 2 2 0 1 1 2 2 1 0 1 1
10 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 0 0 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 0
11 0 2 1 0 1 0 2 2 2 1 1 1 2 0 2 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 0
12 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 2 2 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 2 1 2 0 0 1
13 0 2 1 2 1 0 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 2 2 2 0
14 0 1 0 1 2 1 1 2 2 0 2 0 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 0 1 2
15 2 1 2 1 2 1 0 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 2 2 1 0 2 1 1 1 0
16 1 2 2 0 1 1 1 2 0 0 2 1 0 2 2 1 1 0 2 0 1 2 1
17 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 1 2 1 1 2 0 1 2 1 1
18 1 0 1 0 2 2 2 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1
19 1 0 2 1 1 1 0 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 2 1 0 1 2 1 2
20 2 1 1 1 1 1 0 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 2 0 1 0 1 0 2 0
21 1 1 0 2 1 0 2 0 1 2 0 2 2 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 2 2 2
22 2 0 1 1 0 1 2 2 0 1 0 0 2 0 1 1 2 1 2 0 2 2 2
23 0 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 2 1 1 2 1 0 1 2 2 2 2
24 2 1 0 1 2 2 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 2 2
8/13/2020 4:42 PM
I could probably come up with something better, but I don't want to mess around with it anymore.
8/13/2020 4:43 PM
Any possible way to get it so each team sees every team at least once? Or at least in the same conference at least once? Last season I was never in pexetera's conference even a single time.

I only did a quick look, but 16 and 4 are never even in the same conference. 16 was the first team I looked at and I only looked at 1,2,3, and 4 in regards to 16, so I'm sure there is more of this.

It might be impossible.
8/13/2020 4:46 PM
Posted by benhoidal on 8/13/2020 4:46:00 PM (view original):
Any possible way to get it so each team sees every team at least once? Or at least in the same conference at least once? Last season I was never in pexetera's conference even a single time.

I only did a quick look, but 16 and 4 are never even in the same conference. 16 was the first team I looked at and I only looked at 1,2,3, and 4 in regards to 16, so I'm sure there is more of this.

It might be impossible.
I'll mess with it some more since you complained about it.

I didn't think about accounting for conference play. So I will take a look at it now. Now that I solved what was causing it to run forever, at least the solves are happening quickly. So I will dig some more.
8/13/2020 6:28 PM (edited)
Posted by benhoidal on 8/13/2020 4:46:00 PM (view original):
Any possible way to get it so each team sees every team at least once? Or at least in the same conference at least once? Last season I was never in pexetera's conference even a single time.

I only did a quick look, but 16 and 4 are never even in the same conference. 16 was the first team I looked at and I only looked at 1,2,3, and 4 in regards to 16, so I'm sure there is more of this.

It might be impossible.
I only went through like 8 of the teams, and it appears that anywhere between not seeing 3 and not seeing 6 other teams.

5 leagues, 4 divisions, 6 teams per division = I don't think it's going to work out even close to evenly.
8/13/2020 4:53 PM
Posted by ashamael on 8/13/2020 4:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by benhoidal on 8/13/2020 4:46:00 PM (view original):
Any possible way to get it so each team sees every team at least once? Or at least in the same conference at least once? Last season I was never in pexetera's conference even a single time.

I only did a quick look, but 16 and 4 are never even in the same conference. 16 was the first team I looked at and I only looked at 1,2,3, and 4 in regards to 16, so I'm sure there is more of this.

It might be impossible.
I only went through like 8 of the teams, and it appears that anywhere between not seeing 3 and not seeing 6 other teams.

5 leagues, 4 divisions, 6 teams per division = I don't think it's going to work out even close to evenly.
team 9 only sees 16 of the other 23 teams in its division. That's 7 teams.

Several teams, actually. Just ctrl+f 0 and try to count without going blind
8/13/2020 4:56 PM (edited)
There are 65 combinations that never happen, 122 that happen once and 89 that happen twice. There is also no accounting for conference. I might change the objective function to use times played to where even if you aren't in the same division you may be in the same conference multiple times.

Back to the drawing board.
8/13/2020 4:59 PM
Posted by robusk on 8/13/2020 4:59:00 PM (view original):
There are 65 combinations that never happen, 122 that happen once and 89 that happen twice. There is also no accounting for conference. I might change the objective function to use times played to where even if you aren't in the same division you may be in the same conference multiple times.

Back to the drawing board.
I mean, if you can do better than that, that's amazing. At least doing the conference thing to help with the 65, that's the biggest issue imo. I'd love to be one of the owners that misses 7 other owners completely, unless I'm catching 7 super teams twice. I caught both DH & Pex twice in the last league, and they both finished in the top 5 or 6.
8/13/2020 5:04 PM
Sending a one deep proxy to Ben. Going to spend some time with my kids.
8/13/2020 5:24 PM
Halfway through and only a little slower than last version 9 vs. 8 days. I didn’t calculate hours. I don’t need that precision. The best things slow roast...percolate a bit...(disclaimer: really want that Giannis 19-20 season)
8/13/2020 5:34 PM
Posted by pharrop on 8/13/2020 5:34:00 PM (view original):
Halfway through and only a little slower than last version 9 vs. 8 days. I didn’t calculate hours. I don’t need that precision. The best things slow roast...percolate a bit...(disclaimer: really want that Giannis 19-20 season)
Yeah, I think it's gone at a pretty good pace. We had one particularly slow day, but that was a Saturday, so I don't really mind.
8/13/2020 5:48 PM
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