Savage III Commentary Thread Topic

I'm in absolute freefall right now. Capped by an 0-5 last night.


Hopefully capped.
12/6/2020 7:23 AM
God I know I am gonna jinx myself by saying this, but "I LOVE my life in Savage 3!!!"

Unless my teams are winning with smoke & mirrors, I think I have FOUR really strong teams. Now, I also have a TON of quality minutes saved up from my best players. I am intentionally WAY under the minutes of all three of Montrezl Harrell's best 3 seasons. I am way under the two seasons of Jaren Jackson's minutes. And I am under the minutes of Amare, Dame Lillard, Dr J, and Moses in all of my leagues.

I certainly wouldn't want to face my teams over the final 20-30 games with Moses playing 44 mpg, Julius playing 42 mpg, Lillard playing 38 mpg, Montrezl playing 30 mpg and so on. PEX...I'm comin' for ya man!!!

12/7/2020 4:06 AM
glad to see a Moses / Dr. J team doing well. I'm not too surprised, Ben did pretty well in season 1 picking from the 24th spot with Hakeem / Dr. J.
You'll need to win 2 of those 4 leagues to win the crown though.

12/7/2020 7:20 AM
Last 3 cycles: 5-0, 1-4, 5-0... Seems about right. With everybody getting a little better at drafting, this season it's hard to pull off a big winning streak... I think I dig more parity, but damn, it's rough.
12/7/2020 2:17 PM
I don't think I've gone 5-0 all season. Mainly because my 5th team is terrible and my 4th team, after starting 15-15 in a murderous division, has lost seven straight.
12/8/2020 10:46 AM
22-38 inter conference.

Ouch.
12/8/2020 6:31 PM
that last series hurt
12/10/2020 3:32 AM
no surprise but world 3 midwest has been a dogfight...bout to go to battle again with every team at 10-10 in the division
12/12/2020 12:11 AM
Rank___ Owner__________ League 1___ League 2___ League 3___ League 4__ League 5__
1 (138) pexetera 34 25 29 22 28
2 (137) dBKC 31 24 26 26 30
3 (129) jkaye24 26 21 33 25 24
3 jhsukow 20 33 26 31 19
5 (126) robusk 28 28 17 23 30
6 (125) amerk1180 29 30 15 27 24
7 (124) dh555 29 21 26 22 26
8 (123) jpevans31 20 23 27 25 28
9 (115) tarheel1991 12 22 20 32 29
10 (114) ashamael 23 23 25 24 19
10 Midge 23 24 15 27 25
12 (112) 20ks 23 25 21 21 22
13 (111) bds9992 25 21 19 20 26
13 longtallbrad 25 25 16 20 25
13 gerryred 10 25 23 25 28
16 (109) benhoidal 16 28 28 15 22
17 (107) 24kpyrite 20 18 26 24 19
17 albiband0 31 19 32 14 11
19 (106) jcred5 26 25 16 24 15
20 (101) mikee1 25 14 25 22 15
21 (89) goetz93 15 13 26 23 12
22 (88) cmcafeeky 18 20 15 14 21
22 zora4preside 17 13 15 21 22
24 (86) NotoriousJ 14 20 19 13 20
12/12/2020 6:15 AM
Owner__________ Playoff Teams
dBKC 5
amerk1180 4
gerryred 4
jhsukow 4
pexetera 4
robusk 4
ashamael 3
benhoidal 3
dh555 3
jcred5 3
jkaye24 3
jpevans31 3
longtallbrad 3
Midge 3
24kpyrite 2
albiband0 2
bds9992 2
tarheel1991 2
20ks 1
goetz93 1
mikee1 1
cmcafeeky 0
NotoriousJ 0
zora4preside 0
12/12/2020 8:47 AM
MIKEE1 EVALUATION
Executive Summary:
Great draft spot, underperforming expectations. I got the impression you drafted players that based on your experience in regular draft leagues are normally good picks. And if this was a normal draft league you'd have a great team. Wilt (66-67), Marion (06-07), Parish (80-81), Porter (90-91), Marvin Williams (15-16). Those are all great player-seasons. But having to choose 5 seasons deep of these players with seasons you are less familiar with led to some slip ups. You used several lesser quality seasons of several of your draft picks (Parish, Marion) which watered down otherwise good draft picks. Also, several players like Terry Porter, Marvin Williams and Jameer Nelson have one or two standout seasons, but the quality drops off quite a bit in the other seasons.

The DRAFT
1. Wilt Chamberlain - Seems like a no brainer pick at the 2 spot, but which 5 seasons to pick is not a no brainer. Wilt is a hard player to draft around in this league, because depending which seasons you pick, Early Wilt, Middle Wilt, and Late Wilt are different players when it comes to building around usage. The first 3 seasons to pick are clear in '67, '68, and '69 (Middle Wilt)... but after that.. do you decide to go for higher usage lower efficiency with '64 and '65 (Early Wilt), or lower usage higher efficiency with '72 and '73 (Late Wilt)? I wouldn't fault you for either. It's two different strategies that require two different drafting approaches and really depends who you get as scorers in later rounds. It's certainly easier to choose '64 and '65 and get your usage early so you don't have to worry about it later, and if you choose '72 and '73 you have to contend with one position only bringing you 1/2 point of team usage. I think you chose wisely with 64 and 65 because I like to secure my usage early. However, it still poses a drafting challenge because now you have 3 teams with Wilt usage in the 18-20% range and 2 teams with Wilt usage >26%. These would get two different types of complementary players.

2. Shawn Marion - Getting the Matrix this far into the 2nd round is a good pickup. I almost always only play him at SF even if they are 99, 98, or even 97% out of position, which you are doing as well. Instead of the 02-03 season, I would have gone with $6M 07-08 season and played him 97% at SF. 97% is as low as I go for playing players out of position. Less minutes at 97% of 07-08 is still better than more minutes of 02-03 at 100%.

3. Robert Parish - Getting Parish this far into the 3rd round is a good pickup too, especially considering you need scoring in some seasons to fill out some of your lower usage Wilt seasons. However, drafting 89-90 over 88-89 was a mistake. 89-90 has more minutes, better rebounding, and more DEF.

4. Terry Porter - Early 4th round pick is very early for Terry Porter. He really only has one season in 90-91 that is worth drafting in the 4th round. His other seasons are 5th round. His 91-92 season doesn't meet my quality standard and isn't draftable IMO. I would rather draft 99-00 to get 3% more REB, 2.6% more efg% with better and more perimeter shooting and still get 2 points of team usage. Fewer minutes, but better quality.

5. Kemba Walker – You already know this, but this is not a 5th round pick. He only has 2 seasons that I consider usable. ’16 and ’20. If you’re looking for a guard who gives some usage, then Mike Conley was still available who has 3-4 good seasons. As a rule of thumb: By round 5 you should be drafting players who give you between 80 and 130 total minutes. If you’re drafting a player who across 5 seasons is giving you 150-160 minutes, then you probably aren’t drafting a quality player in round 5 because players who give 160 minutes of solid contribution are already gone by round 5.

6. Jonas Valanciunas – I like this pick. 5 seasons totaling 104 minutes…all usable quality minutes. And you chose the right 5 seasons.

7. Marvin Williams – One standout season in 15-16, then it drops off. In this case, the selection doesn’t hurt you because I like him at SG which is how you’re using him in 3 leagues. I only like his 15-16 season at SF so I don’t think I would have used his 17-18 or 18-19 seasons. I would have used ’09 and ’20 instead at SG. And I think I would have gone with ’12 instead of ’14 to help balance out usage better. SIM substitutions that create usage deficiencies are killer.

8. Antonio McDyess – McDyess has 3 good seasons (‘07 at PF) (’09 at PF) (’98 at SF) and then it drops off. You only used one of them (’98) so I guess you were trying to fill SF minutes. The other 4 seasons you used are below my quality standards even for SF. I might have gone for Larry Nance Jr here instead.

9. Chris Gatling – Heavy on fouls, but not a bad pickup for late round 9.

10. Jameer Nelson – Again, one standout season in ’09, then a dropoff in usable quality seasons. There are two other good seasons in ’06, ’08. Those are the only season’s that I would play any significant minutes.

11. Boban Marjanovic – Another good pickup. Limited minutes, but ’16, ’17, and ’19 are quality seasons.

12. Hot Rod Williams – This is a sneaky good pickup for 12th round. He’s a PF that you can play at SF. I don’t really like him at PF because his DREB is too low, but he’s got one really good season ’92 and another pretty good season ’89 both of which can be used at SF.

TEAM STRUCTURE – It looks like you tried to put most of your best players on one team in World 1, but ran into some stiff divisional competition with amerk’s best team and dBKC. ’81 Parish instead of ’82 along with ‘09 Jameer instead of ‘08 might have put this team on top in World 1. However, focusing on 2 or 3 teams with all your best players would be your best strategy, because you can’t win the Savage crown by just winning one league. Try not to focus on drafting guys who have one standout season if you want all 5 teams to make the playoffs.
12/12/2020 2:53 PM (edited)
Hey, pex, exceptionally thoughtful evals team by team thus far. If there's a waiting list for your discerning attention, please put me on it. That said, I've long assumed that I went wrong with the Crash Wallace pick. Not at all that he doesn't belong in this league, but I suspect I set myself up for having to go with a defensive matador (in Calderon) at PG by picking a SF when I did.
12/18/2020 2:55 PM
Posted by longtallbrad on 12/18/2020 2:55:00 PM (view original):
Hey, pex, exceptionally thoughtful evals team by team thus far. If there's a waiting list for your discerning attention, please put me on it. That said, I've long assumed that I went wrong with the Crash Wallace pick. Not at all that he doesn't belong in this league, but I suspect I set myself up for having to go with a defensive matador (in Calderon) at PG by picking a SF when I did.
He'll get around to it about half way through Savage five!
12/18/2020 7:52 PM
owner world 1 world 2 world 3 world 4 world 5 Total Wins Playoffs
dbkc 41 35 35 36 39 186 5
pex 48 37 35 30 36 186 4
jhsukow 32 44 35 41 29 181 4
robusk 37 41 26 30 43 177 4
jkaye 35 27 43 34 37 176 4
jpevans 28 35 35 34 35 167 4
ash 32 30 36 34 31 163 4
dh 39 27 34 28 34 162 3
gerry 20 34 37 37 33 161 4
amerk 37 37 18 36 31 159 3
bds 31 33 27 30 36 157 3
tarheel 17 29 25 45 39 155 2
midge 30 36 24 30 34 154 3
ltb 30 34 24 27 35 150 2
ben 24 36 37 23 26 146 2
albi 38 25 40 23 19 145 2
24k 27 23 35 32 27 144 2
20ks 30 30 30 24 29 143 1
jcred 37 30 21 34 17 139 2
mikee 34 22 33 29 20 138 1
goetz 21 19 34 30 19 123 1
cmac 26 23 22 21 29 121 0
zora 20 16 23 28 29 116 0
notoriousj 18 29 23 16 25 111 0
12/20/2020 8:16 AM (edited)
I'll be happy to LTB if I can find the time. I'm working on albi's now and spending lots of time with family for the holidays.
12/20/2020 7:28 AM
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