Quote: Originally posted by jaisonline on 8/28/2008I'm surprised this recruiting service "feature" isn't inspired by fox owned scout.com

Good call!

Quote: Originally Posted By hawkfan1992 on 8/28/2008
The potential thing is nice, but in reality do any of us really KNOW what kind of potential someone has? I mean, look at some players that went straight from high school to the NBA. I'm sure they all had great "potential" in the eyes of various scouting services, but how many of them actually make it? There are NBA teams that spent tons of money scouting these guys, signed them to multi-million dollar contracts, and then watched them bust.

The point being, I hope WIS puts something in place so sometimes the scouting reports are just plain wrong. A guy with low potential comes in and actually grows 6 inches and becomes an all conference PF. Or a can't miss recruit comes in and never improves much at all, despite a great WE and high potential on the scouting reports. That's reality.

That is reality for sure. But does it really add anything to the game?

Personally, things already seem too random to me in this game.

One thing I'd really like to know is IF I decide not to use the scouting service, how will I be able to get an understanding a player's potential once they are on campus?

I would assume that as the coach of the team, I would be able to figure this out during their freshman year and have a better grasp of it than the scouting service could provide while recruiting the kid.

The only thing I want to know about potential(don't know if its been brought up or not, haven't read the whole thread) is will it allow ath, spd, def, and shb to rise like the other stats if they have a high potential? Or in otherwords, can somone with great athletisism potential grow say 8 or 9 in a year? Guess thats what dev chat is before, but i'll be in college during it.

Quote: Originally posted by mlatsko1 on 8/28/2008One thing I'd really like to know is IF I decide not to use the scouting service, how will I be able to get an understanding a player's potential once they are on campus?I would assume that as the coach of the team, I would be able to figure this out during their freshman year and have a better grasp of it than the scouting service could provide while recruiting the kid.

I posted that here already.

And again, how do you make it so that only the team using it gains the advantage of scouting them/knowing there potential ect? Thats all I'm lost on. If you scout NY whatever info you get would be good for me as well meaning if you site mailed the entire empire 8 the information we all just saved money. Theres nothing they can do to prevent this.

You really wouldn't be able to I guess, sort of some pretty time intensive programming work.

Again, it's not really much of an add-on to the game if one person is paying for the information via recruiting funds and 30 teams are taking advantage of that information.

It's a great change for me. My dad plays, dad's buddy play. I've got five friends who play, two of those friends' wives play, the friends have friends who play, etc. I'd just buy an extra D-III team and we'd trade who pays for it every season, and use that team to scout for everyone. Makes the whole thing kinda pointless, I think.

Or another way to look at is to say that this just makes more "busy work" in HD. Now there's a new layer to recruiting. I guess I'll wait and see how it works out, but the more I think about it, the less I see the point to it, considering the ease of information sharing.

Quote: Originally posted by links135 on 8/28/2008The only thing I want to know about potential(don't know if its been brought up or not, haven't read the whole thread) is will it allow ath, spd, def, and shb to rise like the other stats if they have a high potential?  Or in otherwords, can somone with great athletisism potential grow say 8 or 9 in a year?  Guess thats what dev chat is before, but i'll be in college during it.

Already submitted that question.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 8/28/2008

Quote: Originally posted by mlatsko1 on 8/28/2008One thing I'd really like to know is IF I decide not to use the scouting service, how will I be able to get an understanding a player's potential once they are on campus?I would assume that as the coach of the team, I would be able to figure this out during their freshman year and have a better grasp of it than the scouting service could provide while recruiting the kid.

I posted that here already.

Ditto me too lol

I have already submitted 2 questions

1. If all things are equal, what are the disadvantages if temple uses it and la salle does not while targeting the same kid ?

2. If i had to choose either using the service or not, wouldn't it make sense to save the money. I rather use it for direct interactions w/ recruits (e.g. visits).

One advantage that just dawned on me is that we will be getting an increase in our budget to allow for the scouting service. If we choose not to use the service, that will mean extra cash to spend on recruits.

EDIT: You beat me to it, jais.

Quote: Originally posted by decepticons on 8/28/2008And again, how do you make it so that only the team using it gains the advantage of scouting them/knowing there potential ect? Thats all I'm lost on. If you scout NY whatever info you get would be good for me as well meaning if you site mailed the entire empire 8 the information we all just saved money. Theres nothing they can do to prevent this. You really wouldn't be able to I guess, sort of some pretty time intensive programming work. Again, it's not really much of an add-on to the game if one person is paying for the information via recruiting funds and 30 teams are taking advantage of that information. It's a great change for me. My dad plays, dad's buddy play. I've got five friends who play, two of those friends' wives play, the friends have friends who play, etc. I'd just buy an extra D-III team and we'd trade who pays for it every season, and use that team to scout for everyone. Makes the whole thing kinda pointless, I think. Or another way to look at is to say that this just makes more "busy work" in HD. Now there's a new layer to recruiting. I guess I'll wait and see how it works out, but the more I think about it, the less I see the point to it, considering the ease of information sharing.

Gotcha. So were agreeing on the same thing. If the change does make it so you pretty much need to know his potential then people will share that information. If the diff in high/low is only a few points here or there then it will pretty much be like knowing what sets they ran in HS. Sure, it helps, but its hardly going to make or break if you sign him or not.

Quote: Originally posted by Weena on 8/28/2008One advantage that just dawned on me is that we will be getting an increase in our budget to allow for the scouting service. If we choose not to use the service, that will mean extra cash to spend on recruits.EDIT: You beat me to it, jais.

Good point. Considering I'll never blow any money on Alfred to scout thats just extra cash for me. I never ran low before so thats just going to be an extra bonus for a lot of the people who always have loads of cash over.

Quote: Originally posted by Weena on 8/28/2008One advantage that just dawned on me is that we will be getting an increase in our budget to allow for the scouting service. If we choose not to use the service, that will mean extra cash to spend on recruits.EDIT: You beat me to it, jais. 

if recruiting budgets are increased, maybe WIS will reduce the carryover %.

Quote: Originally posted by jaisonline on 8/28/2008

Quote: Originally posted by Weena on 8/28/2008One advantage that just dawned on me is that we will be getting an increase in our budget to allow for the scouting service. If we choose not to use the service, that will mean extra cash to spend on recruits.EDIT: You beat me to it, jais.

if recruiting budgets are increased, maybe WIS will reduce the carryover %.

I don't think they should. The extra budget should be the 'average' amount that most people would be blowing on the scouting if your not using loop holes. If you wanna save the cash and not scout then thats the risk of getting a low potential guy for 4 years.

I know it's only one school, but what happens at Hawaii, they already get a low amount of recruits, and now some of them are suddenly going to want to leave the islands?