ODL-36 Team Compositions Topic

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12/19/2010 4:37 PM
Team Compositions

1. coachcroft - Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, Cedric Maxwell, Rajon Rondo, Happy Hairston,
2. sappy  - LeBron James, Shawn Marion, Marcus Camby, Jimmy Jones, Lamar Odom,
3. jakotay - Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Kevin Porter, Bob Dandridge, Louie Dampier,
4. xxevilivexx - Wilt Chamberlain, Kevin Willis, Bill Walton, Jose Calderon, Dave Twardzik,
5. bsmuke - Chris Paul, Tim Duncan, Artis Gilmore, John Havlicek, Trenton Hassell,
6. empdenied - Dennis Rodman, Mel Daniels, Danny Granger, Sleepy Floyd, AC Green,
7. banditone - Kevin Durant, Nate Thurmond, Pooh Richardson, Gus Johnson, Calvin Murphy,
8. tarheel1991 - Tracy McGrady, Wes Unseld, Darrell Walker, Scottie Pippen, Manute Bol,
9. dh555 - Michael Jordan, Ben Wallace, Ray Allen, Gerald Govan, Joe Dumars,
10. gtak - Magic Johnson, Troy Murphy, Hakeem Olajuwon, Cedric Ceballos, Raja Bell,
11. qistat - Fat Lever, Jim McDaniels, Tom Boerwinkle, Chris Webber, Larry Smith,
12. badja - Kobe Bryant, Patrick Ewing, Julius Erving, Reggie Evans, Will Perdue,
13. mikee1 - Dwyane Wade, Kevin Garnett, Nick Van Exel, Antoine Walker, Jeff Foster,
14. trtllvr - Larry Bird, Steve Nash, Willis Reed, John Kerr, Joe Johnson, 
15. ljemd - Oscar Robertson, Spencer Haywood, Mark Eaton, Kendall Gill, Jeff Malone,
16. appleseed1 - Elgin Baylor, George Mikan, Nate McMillan, Chris Anderson, George T. Johnson,
17. robocoach - Jerry Lucas, Walt Bellamy, Tim Hardaway, Dave DeBusschere, Danny Ainge,
18. captainzen - Bill Russell, Amare Stoudemire, Kevin Johnson, Wesley Person, Goose Ligon,
19. eleibowitz - Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jason Kidd, Donyell Marshall, Chris Dudley, Chet Walker,
20. tricky24 - Dwight Howard, Swen Nater, Kenny Smith, Wil Jones, Lucius Allen,
21. tallbrad - Chauncey Billups, Harry Gallatin, Rony Seikaly, Donnie Freeman, Jim Jackson,  Darko Milicic, Carlos Arroyo 
22. 98average - Shaquille O'Neal, Zelmo Beaty, Mark Price, Jason Terry, T.R. Dunn, J.R. Smith, Darrell Griffith
23. ncih  - Dirk Nowitzki, Robert Parish, Mugsy Bogues, Rashard Lewis, Charlie Bell, John Bagley, Jim Peterson,
24. scudmissle - David Robinson, John Stockton, Glen Rice, Erick Dampier, Red Robbins, Damon Jones, Gene Wiley

12/21/2010 9:19 AM (edited)
1. coachcroft - Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, Cedric Maxwell, Rajon Rondo, Happy Hairston,

I'm concerned about your total salary, but if you can make it work, you've got a lot of good stuff happening here.  Great efg%, good boards from several positions and a nice overall feeling of synergy.


2. sappy  - LeBron James, Shawn Marion, Marcus Camby, Jimmy Jones, Lamar Odom,

I like the Odom-Lebron combo for assists.  I like a lot about this team, in fact.  You've got a nice amount of threes without spending anything on a pure bomber - that's a good trick in the new environment.  I really don't know what Matrix you're going to end up using, but I think he will make or break this team.  Salary is a concern.  I have a feeling that I'll be saying that on at least 16 teams.


4. xxevilivexx - Wilt Chamberlain, Kevin Willis, Bill Walton, Jose Calderon, Dave Twardzik,

I love Wilt + Calderon.  I still think Walton was a mistake even if I applaud your strategy.  I think Willis was a mistake, too, though.  While Chamberlain can't be your only rebounder, he certainly can be your primary board-lord in a $42M cap.  I think you started off building an old $42M cap team and didn't really realize it till you got to Twardzik.  I'm not sure you're going to be able to field a competitive squad at this point, but the right Wilt + Calderon combination will definitely win you a lot of games.


6. empdenied - Dennis Rodman, Mel Daniels, Danny Granger, Sleepy Floyd, AC Green,

I really dig the Sleepy Floyd pick.  He was underrated in the last version of the sim and should start to shine even more with the current salaries.  I like how this entire team fits together.  I'm still worried that Granger is going to be less cost effective than you want, but he's still a hell of a good fit with this squad.  I think you might be spending too much on boards (Rodman and Daniels should have been more than enough by themselves in the current environment).


7. banditone - Kevin Durant, Nate Thurmond, Pooh Richardson, Gus Johnson, Calvin Murphy,

I'm not really sure how I would go about building a Kevin Durant team in a $42M league with the current salary structure, but this would not be it.  I was with you on Pooh... Gus is an okay fit... but I really dislike both the Nate-the-great and Murphy picks.  I think they both take away from Durant's goodness without adding a whole lot to counter-balance it.  Thurmond gives you boards, at least...
12/19/2010 5:25 PM
welp, I have two completely different teams built out right now in draft centers. we'll see if the guys to fill out either one of them last back to me.     
12/19/2010 10:52 PM
Green's just so darn efficient, ash. I also never feel that I can have enough rebounding. I've had a glass of your 'rebounding and eFG' kool-aid
12/20/2010 10:40 AM
updated through tricky
12/20/2010 5:46 PM
Posted by empdenied on 12/20/2010 10:40:00 AM (view original):
Green's just so darn efficient, ash. I also never feel that I can have enough rebounding. I've had a glass of your 'rebounding and eFG' kool-aid
Nothing wrong with him... and there used to be no such thing as spending too much on boards. I believe that now, you're going to be missing some key stuff.
12/20/2010 6:34 PM
3. jakotay - Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Kevin Porter, Bob Dandridge, Louie Dampier,

Wow, Louie Dampier's in the house.  You've got some offense now, but I just can't help feeling as though you're going to have some big efficiency issues.  Dampier's your only source of threes thus far, too...


5. bsmuke - Chris Paul, Tim Duncan, Artis Gilmore, John Havlicek, Trenton Hassell,

As excited as I am to see Havlicek, I question his selection with three very expensive picks ahead of him.  Where are the threes?  No, you can't draft 800 anymore (actually, you can), but you still need at least one bomber.


8. tarheel1991 - Tracy McGrady, Wes Unseld, Darrell Walker, Scottie Pippen, Manute Bol,

Manute in the house!  I actually like this squad.  Your boards in the 1,2 & 3 spots combined with Unseld allow you to slum at C with Bol.  I still don't think blocks are worth paying for, but they don't hurt.  I really like the Pippen/McGrady tandem for many, many reasons.


9. dh555 - Michael Jordan, Ben Wallace, Ray Allen, Gerald Govan, Joe Dumars,

Govan was a great pick.  The guy has terrible efg% but low usg%, so hopefully he doesn't hurt you too bad.  He probably should go a round or round and a half earlier in the new structure.  I was with you till Dumars, but even so, Dumars is a nice pick.  If you can manage to get to that 18.5k minute mark and you manage your fatigue well in the first 25 games, I think you glide into a bye.  You've got everything you want in a team in the current structure.


10. gtak - Magic Johnson, Troy Murphy, Hakeem Olajuwon, Cedric Ceballos, Raja Bell,

I was iffy at first, but I love the Ceballos & Bell picks.  I'm very concerned over your total salary, but like dh555, if you can get 18.5k to 19k minutes, you should be doing well.


11. qistat - Fat Lever, Jim McDaniels, Tom Boerwinkle, Chris Webber, Larry Smith,

I think you could have done better than Webber when it comes to efficiency, but if I'm not mistaken, he can play SF.  And with that in mind, holy !@#$!  You've easily got the most board-dominant team with almost all of the necessities.  I don't like the lack of threes, but I don't question the qistat!


12. badja - Kobe Bryant, Patrick Ewing, Julius Erving, Reggie Evans, Will Perdue,

I think you're pulling my old trick of drafting a backup in round 5.  I dig it.  If you can make the salary workout (which I think you will at this point), I think you'll really dig the Perdue-Evans rotation.


13. mikee1 - Dwyane Wade, Kevin Garnett, Nick Van Exel, Antoine Walker, Jeff Foster,

Okay... I already said I loved the Van Exel pick, but I think Walker is a bad guy to pair with him.  You've got a lot of average shooting efficiency guys here, which is my biggest pet peeve with teams.  You can still do well, and I really like the Foster addition.  I was worried about salary with Wade/Garnett, but you've done well to bring it back to earth.  Overall, I just don't feel this team.


14. trtllvr - Larry Bird, Steve Nash, Willis Reed, John Kerr, Joe Johnson, 

Depending on what Johnson season you use, I either really like this team or feel merely lukewarm about it.  You've got everything you need in the current environment (still pending on what I said about Bird/Nash's lack of FTA before).


15. ljemd - Oscar Robertson, Spencer Haywood, Mark Eaton, Kendall Gill, Jeff Malone,

The only thing I like about this team is Oscar.


16. appleseed1 - Elgin Baylor, George Mikan, Nate McMillan, Chris Anderson, George T. Johnson,

Good luck.


17. robocoach - Jerry Lucas, Walt Bellamy, Tim Hardaway, Dave DeBusschere, Danny Ainge,

I like this despite Bellamy's presence.  As I said earlier, I think he's going to make a comeback with the new salaries.  Hardaway & Ainge make a nice backcourt, and DeBusschere's not bad now.  And Lucas is always awesome.  I think you'll do well.


18. captainzen - Bill Russell, Amare Stoudemire, Kevin Johnson, Wesley Person, Goose Ligon,

There's nothing to not like about this team.  You have everything covered and covered well.  If I had to pick right now, I'd pick you.  Love the Goose pick!!


19. eleibowitz - Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jason Kidd, Donyell Marshall, Chris Dudley, Chet Walker,

I'm not sure what you're doing with Chet (he does have some 100% sg seasons), but I like everything else about this squad.


20. tricky24 - Dwight Howard, Swen Nater, Kenny Smith, Wil Jones, Lucius Allen,

This is a nice squad.  You've got a nice mix of a lot of things and should win some games.  I'm not 100% sold on your wings, but this could be a tight squad. 
12/20/2010 6:58 PM
19. eleibowitz - Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jason Kidd, Donyell Marshall, Chris Dudley, Chet Walker,

I'm not sure what you're doing with Chet (he does have some 100% sg seasons), but I like everything else about this squad.


Using 73-74 Chet, 100% at SG.  Need someone who was going to get to the line other than Kareem.  Plus he has pretty good rebounding% for a SG and he's my 2nd scorer.  Not the perfect guy, life in the new SIM
12/21/2010 8:07 AM
Well, my team is mostly put together now. I'm still deciding on who my 8th guy will be (need about 1500 more min) but right now I have:

PG Darrell Walker 90-91
SG Tracy Mcgrady 02-03
SF Scottie Pippen 01-02
PF Chris Bosh 05-06
C Wes Unseld 77-78

BE Vince Carter 04-05
BE Manute Bol 90-91


Question marks are rebounding (everyone has at least 13% dreb, but no real dominant rebounder) and defense (same deal - no bad defenders, but no great ones either). We also foul a lot, but shoot a decent amount of FT too. Got tons of assists, so that along with uptempo should mean I shoot it well enough. Top 4 scorers (Mcgrady, Carter, Bosh, Pippen) have efg% of exactly 50.5% each - weird. Starting lineup usg% is only around 103% or so, but Carter coming off the bench along with an 8th man with 15%+ should mean we're ok there.


Not a good team under the old salary structure, but we might just be able to do pretty well against a lot of the top-heavy squads in the league by having a good bench. Hope there's enough scoring and rebounding to keep us afloat.     

12/22/2010 2:52 PM
Team   Usage% eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Def
George Mikan C 30.0 39.1 12.4 30.8 11.7 93
Eddie Griffin PF 15.7 37.3 9.1 22.7 4.0 93
Chris Andersen PF 13.5 55.1 12.8 20.0 2.7 94
Elgin Baylor SF 31.6 44.3 10.1 25.0 13.3 94
Nate McMillan PG 13.3 42.6 6.2 11.4 33.0 84
    104.1 42.9 50.6 109.9 64.7 91.6
               
George T. Johnson C 7.9 46.7 9.7 19.8 5.3 80
Jim Loscutoff SF 19.5 37.1 10.2 22.7 5.2 89
With a EFG% of 42.9, I'll definetely have plenty of cause to use that 50.6 Offensive Rebounding rate, but will it be enough to overcome it?  This isn't a Basketball team so much as a volleyball team.
12/22/2010 3:40 PM (edited)
 
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    Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%
    Jerry Lucas 68-69 Royals PF 16.5 57.9 33.8 56.7 12.2 26.8 11.1 1.1 1.3
    Walt Bellamy 71-72 Hawks C 19.5 54.6 0.0 54.5 10.7 20.8 9.3 1.2 3.3
    Tim Hardaway 96-97 Heat PG 26.6 46.7 34.2 48.9 1.8 8.1 31.2 2.3 0.2
    Dave DeBusschere 68-69 Pistons PF 18.9 46.1 32.8 45.7 8.5 19.1 7.1 1.3 1.1
    Danny Ainge 87-88 Celtics SG 17.3 53.1 42.1 56.6 2.3 6.6 18.3 1.6 0.3
    Jon Barry 95-96 Warriors SG 14.9 50.8 47.0 61.1 2.6 7.2 16.0 2.0 0.9
    Jason Collins 07-08 Nets C 7.7 47.1 0.0 46.9 6.1 10.9 3.0 0.9 1.3
    [click to draft]      

I like my team ok, but only ok. EFG% and CREB  are good under the new salary structure, my deam doesn't turn the ball over real bad, gets steals, and the assists a are top notch, BUT; but this team is gonna get killed at the FT line and there may not be much I can do about it.
12/22/2010 5:17 PM (edited)
Posted by appleseed1 on 12/22/2010 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Team   Usage% eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Def
George Mikan C 30.0 39.1 12.4 30.8 11.7 93
Eddie Griffin PF 15.7 37.3 9.1 22.7 4.0 93
Chris Andersen PF 13.5 55.1 12.8 20.0 2.7 94
Elgin Baylor SF 31.6 44.3 10.1 25.0 13.3 94
Nate McMillan PG 13.3 42.6 6.2 11.4 33.0 84
    104.1 42.9 50.6 109.9 64.7 91.6
               
George T. Johnson C 7.9 46.7 9.7 19.8 5.3 80
Jim Loscutoff SF 19.5 37.1 10.2 22.7 5.2 89
With a EFG% of 42.9, I'll definetely have plenty of cause to use that 50.6 Offensive Rebounding rate, but will it be enough to overcome it?  This isn't a Basketball team so much as a volleyball team.
this is a crazy looking team...great defensively and should dominate the boards, but incredibly weak scoring-wise (terrible efg%, usage will be an issue when mikan or baylor is out), amazingly high fouls...what was the concept supposed to be here exactly? lol...I have you at 14500 minutes with almost 9 mil in salary left, going by the seasons you listed, so this is only like 3/4 of your team...so hard to know how the rest will shake out
12/22/2010 4:36 PM

PG Jason Kidd 08-09
SG Chet Walker 73-74
SF  Donyell Marhsall 00-01
PF  Charles Dudley 95-96
C    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 76-77

96-97 Rex Chapman
67-68 Ira Harge

I like this team, I think??  Very strong rebounding team and a good defensive team.  39.1 Oreb% and 97.8 Dreb% for the starting five.  Average defense for the starting five is 80.2  Have 2 efficent scorers with Kareem /Chet and 2 OK efficent scorer in Rex /Donyell.  . The seven have a total TS% of 56.2 which is really good considering how many bricks Dudley and Harge are going to throw up.  Ira Harge is cheap $2.9m and 1734 mins with 10/21.3 rebounding

12/22/2010 5:07 PM (edited)
It's funny seeing the cycle of players!
12/22/2010 8:06 PM
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