Posted by blackdog3377 on 7/12/2012 7:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by isack24 on 7/12/2012 6:35:00 PM (view original):
I really think the 2012 wings are pretty significantly better.  PGs are probably a toss up (I don't want to hear old people tell me how great John Stockton was - he's not any better than Chris Paul).  But the 1992 bigs are just SO much better.  The game has changed, and I'm one of those guys who thinks talent-wise, Kobe and Lebron are both as good or better than Jordan.  But Robinson and Ewing would just destroy anyone not named Tyson Chandler. 

I think it's laughable that Jordan and Barkley think it's laughable, though.  It would be a good game.

Jordan was just so much better than Kobe its kind of crazy. Jordan averaged 30 points per game shooting 49.7% for his career. Kobe has only averaged 30 or more 3 times in his career and his best season shooting shooting % wise was only 46.9%. And Jordan played in a much tougher, more physical defensive era where defenders were able to hand check and grab offensive players.

He's not, sorry.  Stats like PPG and FG% have no real meaning in a vacuum.  Jordan was just far superior athletically to people of that era.  He didn't have to contend with every team having 6'9" SFs who can run the floor.  I'm not going to say the quality of basketball is better now, but the athleticism sure is.  Even the worst NBA players (don't start naming te seven guys who aren't athletic) have 7'3" wingspans and can jump out of the gym.  That's just the path the game has taken, and it would have made Jordan's life much more difficult. 

Plus, Jordan had the current NBA handcheck rules before they were actually rules. You can say it was physically tougher, and that's certainly true.  But Jordan got the calls that players get today. 

Posted by tianyi7886 on 7/12/2012 7:28:00 PM (view original):
Not quite sure the current wings are that much better than the dream team. Scottie Pippen was in his prime and Chris Mullin is no pushover. 

To be honest, if this was 2016 and the same players played, with Kobe at his current age, I would say this team can play evenly against the 92 team. The players in the current team, besides Lebron, are not really in their prime. 

No, Mullin was a great player, but when 2012 goes like this:

PG: Paul
SG: Durant
SF: Anthony
PF: James
C: Love

Who is guarding that team from the Dream Team?  I understand the 2012 team would get crushed down low, but seriously.

Robinson and Ewing have to step out on Love, something they've never had to do before.  Then how else do they match up?

Sure, at PG they are probably fine, although I disagree that Stockton would really be able to stop Paul.  But let's say he can.  Jordan isn't big enough to guard any of those guys, although I'm sure he'd be OK.  So you put Pippen on Anthony and Jordan on Durant?  I say advantage 2012 (remember I'm only talking when 2012 is on offense).  And who the hell is guarding LBJ?  Barkley?  Bird?  None of them have the speed/strength combo for that match up and LBJ would run wild.  

I really just don't think the DT can match up on the wings.  But like I said, the DT would punish 2012 down low. 

 

Posted by isack24 on 7/13/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 7/12/2012 7:28:00 PM (view original):
Not quite sure the current wings are that much better than the dream team. Scottie Pippen was in his prime and Chris Mullin is no pushover. 

To be honest, if this was 2016 and the same players played, with Kobe at his current age, I would say this team can play evenly against the 92 team. The players in the current team, besides Lebron, are not really in their prime. 

No, Mullin was a great player, but when 2012 goes like this:

PG: Paul
SG: Durant
SF: Anthony
PF: James
C: Love

Who is guarding that team from the Dream Team?  I understand the 2012 team would get crushed down low, but seriously.

Robinson and Ewing have to step out on Love, something they've never had to do before.  Then how else do they match up?

Sure, at PG they are probably fine, although I disagree that Stockton would really be able to stop Paul.  But let's say he can.  Jordan isn't big enough to guard any of those guys, although I'm sure he'd be OK.  So you put Pippen on Anthony and Jordan on Durant?  I say advantage 2012 (remember I'm only talking when 2012 is on offense).  And who the hell is guarding LBJ?  Barkley?  Bird?  None of them have the speed/strength combo for that match up and LBJ would run wild.  

I really just don't think the DT can match up on the wings.  But like I said, the DT would punish 2012 down low. 

 

Posted by isack24 on 7/13/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 7/12/2012 7:28:00 PM (view original):
Not quite sure the current wings are that much better than the dream team. Scottie Pippen was in his prime and Chris Mullin is no pushover. 

To be honest, if this was 2016 and the same players played, with Kobe at his current age, I would say this team can play evenly against the 92 team. The players in the current team, besides Lebron, are not really in their prime. 

No, Mullin was a great player, but when 2012 goes like this:

PG: Paul
SG: Durant
SF: Anthony
PF: James
C: Love

Who is guarding that team from the Dream Team?  I understand the 2012 team would get crushed down low, but seriously.

Robinson and Ewing have to step out on Love, something they've never had to do before.  Then how else do they match up?

Sure, at PG they are probably fine, although I disagree that Stockton would really be able to stop Paul.  But let's say he can.  Jordan isn't big enough to guard any of those guys, although I'm sure he'd be OK.  So you put Pippen on Anthony and Jordan on Durant?  I say advantage 2012 (remember I'm only talking when 2012 is on offense).  And who the hell is guarding LBJ?  Barkley?  Bird?  None of them have the speed/strength combo for that match up and LBJ would run wild.  

I really just don't think the DT can match up on the wings.  But like I said, the DT would punish 2012 down low. 

 

Posted by poncho0091 on 7/13/2012 8:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by isack24 on 7/13/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 7/12/2012 7:28:00 PM (view original):
Not quite sure the current wings are that much better than the dream team. Scottie Pippen was in his prime and Chris Mullin is no pushover. 

To be honest, if this was 2016 and the same players played, with Kobe at his current age, I would say this team can play evenly against the 92 team. The players in the current team, besides Lebron, are not really in their prime. 

No, Mullin was a great player, but when 2012 goes like this:

PG: Paul
SG: Durant
SF: Anthony
PF: James
C: Love

Who is guarding that team from the Dream Team?  I understand the 2012 team would get crushed down low, but seriously.

Robinson and Ewing have to step out on Love, something they've never had to do before.  Then how else do they match up?

Sure, at PG they are probably fine, although I disagree that Stockton would really be able to stop Paul.  But let's say he can.  Jordan isn't big enough to guard any of those guys, although I'm sure he'd be OK.  So you put Pippen on Anthony and Jordan on Durant?  I say advantage 2012 (remember I'm only talking when 2012 is on offense).  And who the hell is guarding LBJ?  Barkley?  Bird?  None of them have the speed/strength combo for that match up and LBJ would run wild.  

I really just don't think the DT can match up on the wings.  But like I said, the DT would punish 2012 down low. 

 

It goes both ways though. Yes D. Robinson and Ewing are not used to stepping out to cover 3's, but tell me how many guys in the current NBA have the LP scoring abilities of D Rob and Ewing. Only one imo and thats howard. D howard might be the only center in the NBA currently who could cover those guys. Durant and James are the only 2 on that list that I think would be tough to matchup man to man and thats only because of their athleticism.