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dcmatcheck

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Hmmm...did somebody go AWOL?

4/28/2013 2:02 PM

georgedeer

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bheid408	Von Hayes, Steve Ontiveros (IF), Tony Gonzalez, Tom Morgan, Don McMahon, Jim Bouton
bigfatjew	Don Baylor, Ben Oglivie, Howard Johnson, Craig Swan, Mike Moore, Warren Spahn
brucel	Dick Groat, Dusty Baker, Cookie Rojas, Jack Aker, Larry Andersen, Juan Berenguer
dcmatcheck	Sixto Lezcano, Ron Leflore, Gates Brown, John Hiller, Dave La Roche, Luis Arroyo
deer454	Billy Moran, Von Hayes, Lance Parrish, Mike Hargrove, Greg Harris, Doug Jones
dlchow	Felix Mantilla, Lance Parrish, Sixto Lezcano, Bob Robertson, Don McMahon, Tim Belcher
fire13	Dan Gladden, Tom Murphy, John Buzhardt, Scott Bankhead,Dave La Roche, Tippy Martinez
georgedeer	Andres Gallarraga, Jason Thompson, Tommy Helms, Bob Johnson, Al Worthington, Don McMahon
good_beef	Bob Horner, Tim Foli, Bert Campaneris, John Hiller, Frank Linzy, Jesse Orosco
italyprof	Bob Tillman, George Scott, Tony Conigliaro, Dick Stuart, Lindy McDaniel, Clay Carroll
loudawg10	Alvin Davis, Ben Oglivie, Zoilo Versalles, Hubie Brooks, Vicente Romo, Moe Drabowsky
mattyberk	Bo Diaz, Andres Gallarraga, Larry Andersen, Gene Nelson, Al Holland, Danny Darwin
micki	Bake McBride, Bob Watson, Hubie Brooks, Dan Gladden, Bob Johnson, Wayne Tollefson
mllama54	Dave Stieb, Randy Myers, Kent Tekulve, Bob Lee, Bill Landrum, Al Worthington
pinotfan	Jimmy Sexton, Luis Medina, Mike Davis, Doug Rau, Bobby Tiefenauer, RFK Stadium
pmars2001	George Altman, Sixto Lezcano, Wally Moon, Dick Groat, Mike Moore, Erik Hanson
reddtrain	Kent Hrbek, Cliff Johnson, Mel Queen, Champ Summers, Milt Thompson, John Hiller
shawbigred	Jim Sundberg, Bill White, Sandy Alomar, Phil Garner, Luis Aparicio, Ken Henderson
shysters3	Frank Fernandez, Cliff Johnson, Daryl Strawberry, Mike Moore, Bryan Harvey, Larry Andersen
specsman	Jorge Orta, Billy Doran, Zoilo Versalles, Don Nottebart, Ken Forsch, Harvey Haddix
spotsell	Alvin Davis, Julio Franco, Jim Ray Hart, Luis Aparicio, John Lowenstein, Jeff Heathcock
toysboys	Pete Runnels, Billy Moran, Ken McMullen, Jose Rijo, Rick Sutcliffe, Mike Krukow
uncleal	Howard Johnson, Greg Luzinski, Stu Miller, Stan Bahnsen, Steve Kline, David Cone
zephyr1949	Jimmy Piersall, Chuck Hinton, Doug Jones, Bob Locker, Bobby Shantz, Grant Jackson

4/28/2013 8:23 PM (edited)

georgedeer

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Hitters	Pitchers	Stadiums
Aaron, Hank	Abernathy, Ted	RFK Stadium
Allen, Dick	Aguirre, Hank
Allison, Bob	Aker, Jack
Alomar, Sandy	Alexander, Doyle
Alou, Felipe	Andersen, Larry
Alou, Matty	Andujar, Joaquin
Altman, George	Appier, Kevin
Andrews, Mike	Arroyo, Luis
Aparicio, Luis	Bahnsen, Stan
Baker, Dusty	Bankhead, Scott
Bando, Sal	Belcher, Tim
Barfield, Jesse	Berenguer, Juan
Battey, Earl	Bibby, Jim
Baylor, Don	Blue, Vida
Beckert, Glenn	Blyleven, Bert
Bell, Buddy	Bolin, Bobby
Bell, George	Bosman, Dick
Bench, Johnny	Boswell, Dave
Bernazard, Tony	Bouton, Jim
Blair, Paul	Brewer, Jim
Boggs, Wade	Bruce, Bob
Bonds, Barry	Brunet, George
Bonds, Bobby	Bunker, Wally
Bostock, Lyman	Bunning, Jim
Boyer, Ken	Burke, Tim
Brett, George	Burns, Todd
Brooks, Hubie	Busby, Steve
Brown, Gates	Butcher, John
Buford, Don	Buzhardt, John
Bumbry, Al	Bystrom, Marty
Burgess, Smokey	Caldwell, Mike
Burleson, Rick	Candelaria, John
Butler, Brett	Capra, Buzz
Campaneris, Bert	Carlos, Cisco
Canseco, Jose	Carlton, Steve
Carbo, Bernie	Carroll, Clay
Cardenas, Leo	Chance, Dean
Carew, Rod		Clemens, Roger
Carter, Gary	Cone, David
Carty, Rico	Cuellar, Mike
Cash, Norm	Darwin, Danny
Cedeno, Cesar	Davis, Storm
Cepeda, Orlando	DeLeon, Jose
Clark, Jack	Denny, John
Clark, Will	Dibble, Rob
Clemente, Roberto	Dierker, Larry
Colavito, Rocky	Dobso, Pat
Coleman, Vince	Donovan, Dick
Concepcion, Dave	Downing, Al
Conigliaro, Tony	Drabek, Doug
Cooper, Cecil	Drabowsky, Moe
Daniels, Kal	Drysdale, Don
Davis, Alvin	Eckersley, Dennis
Davis, Eric	Eichhorn, Mark
Davis, Mike	Ellsworth, Dick
Davis, Tommy	Farrell, Turk
Dawson, Andre	Fernandez, Sid
DeCinces, Doug	Fidrych, Mark
Diaz, Bo	Fingers, Rollie
Dietz, Dick	Finley, Chuck
Dilone, Miguel		Ford, Whitey
Doran, Billy	Forsch, Ken
Downing, Brian	Franco, John
Dykstra, Lenny	Friend, Bob
Epstein, Mike	Fulgham, John
Evans, Darrell	Garber, Gene
Evans, Dwight	Garrelts, Scott
Ferguson, Joe	Gibson, Bob
Fernandez, Frank	Gooden, Dwight
Fernandez, Tony	Gossage, Rich
Fielder, Cecil	Guidry, Ron
Fisk, Carlton	Gullickson, Bill
Fletcher, Scott	Gura, Larry
Flood, Curt	Haddix, Harvey
Foli, Tim	Halicki, Ed
Fosse, Ray	Hall, Dick
Foster, George	Hammaker, Atlee
Franco, Julio	Hanson, Erik
Freehan, Bill	Harris, Greg
Fregosi, Jim		Harvey, Mike
Gaetti, Gary	Heathcock, Jeff
Gallarraga, Andres	Henke, Tom
Garner, Phil	Henry, Bill
Garr, Ralph	Hernandez, Willie
Garvey, Steve	Hershiser, Orel
Gedman, Rich	Higuera, Ted
Gentile, Jim	Hiller, John
Gladden, Dan	Hoerner, Joe
Gonzalez, Tony	Holland, Al
Green, Lenny	Holtzman, Ken
Greenwell, Mike	Hooton, Burt
Grich, Bobby	Horlen, Joel
Griffey, Ken	House, Tom
Groat, Dick	Howe, Steve
Gruber, Kelly	Howell, Jay
Guerrero, Pedro	Hoyt, LaMarr
Gwynn, Tony	Hughes, Dick
Haller, Tom	Hunter, Catfish
Hargrove, Mike	Jackson, Danny
Harper, Tommy		Jackson, Grant
Harrah, Toby	Jackson, Larry
Hart, Jim Ray	Jarvis, Pat
Hassey, Ron	Jenkins, Ferguson
Hayes, Von	John, Tommy
Helms, Tommy	Jones, Doug
Henderson, Ken	Jones, Randy
Henderson, Rickey	Kaat, Jim
Hernandez, Keith	Kern, Jim
Herr, Tommy	Key, Jimmy
Hickman, Jim	Kline, Steve
Hinton, Chuck	Knepper, Bob
Hisle, Larry	Koosman, Jerry
Horner, Bob	Koufax, Sandy
Howard, Elston	Krukow, Mike
Howard, Frank	Landrum, Bill
Hrbek, Kent	Langston, Mark
Jackson, Reggie	LaRoche, Dave
Johnson, Bob	Lary, Frank
Johnson, Cliff	Law, Vern
Johnson, Davey	Lee, Bob
Johnson, Howard	Leonard, Dennis
Jones, Cleon		Linzy, Frank
Joyner, Wally	Locker, Bob
Kaline, Al	Lolich, Mickey
Kennedy, Terry	Lyle, Sparky
Killebrew, Harmon	Magrane, Joe
Kingman, Dave	Maloney, Jim
Lansford, Carney	Marichal, Juan
Larkin, Barry	Martinez, Dennis
Lefore, Ron	Martinez, Tippy
Lezcano, Sixto	Matlack, Jon
Lopes, Davey	May, Rudy
Lowenstein, John	McCatty, Steve
Luzinski, Greg	McDaniel, Lindy
Lynn, Fred	McDonald, Ben
Maddox, Elliott	McDowell, Jack
Maddox, Garry	McDowell, Sam
Madlock, Bill	McGraw, Tug
Mantilla, Felix	McLain, Denny
Mantle, Mickey	McMahon, Don
Maris, Roger	McNally, Dave
Matthews, Eddie	Merritt, Jim
Mattingly, Don	Messersmith, Andy
Mayberry, John	Milacki, Bob
Mays, Willie	Miller, Stu
Mazzilli, Lee	Mingori, Steve
McBride, Bake	Montgomery, Jeff
McCarver, Tim	Moore, Mike
McCovey, Willie	Moose, Bob
McGee, Willie	Morgan, Tom
McGriff, Fred	Morris, Jack
McGwire, Mark	Murphy, Rob
McMullen, Ken	Murphy, Tom
McRae, Hal	Murray, Dale
Medina, Luis	Myers, Randy
Melton, Bill	Nelson, Gene
Menke, Denis	Nelson, Roger
Mitchell, Kevin	Niedenfuer, Tom
Molitor, Paul	Niekro, Joe
Monday, Rick	Niekro, Phil
Moon, Wally	Nolan, Gary
Moran, Billy	Norris, Mike
Morgan, Joe	Nottebart, Don
Moseby, Lloyd	Ojeda, Bob
Munson, Thurman	Ontiveros, Steve
Murcer, Bobby	Orosco, Jesse
Murphy, Dale	Osteen, Claude
Murray, Eddie	O'Toole, Jim
Musial, Stan	Palmer, Jim
Nettles, Graig	Pascual, Camilo
Oglivie, Ben	Pena, Alejandro
Oliva, Tony	Perez, Pascual
Oliver, Al	Perry, Gaylord
Ontiveros, Steve	Perry, Jim
Oquendo, Jose	Peters, Gary
Orta, Jorge	Peterson, Fritz
Otis, Amos	Pizarro, Juan
Parker, Dave	Queen, Mel
Parker, Wes	Quisenberry, Dan
Parrish, Lance	Radatz, Dick
Parrish, Larry	Rau, Doug
Pena, Tony	Reardon, Jeff
Perez, Tony	Reed, Ron
Petrocelli, Rico	Reuschel, Rick
Piersall, Jimmy	Reuss, Jerry
Pinson, Vada	Rhoden, Rick
Porter, Darrell	Richard, JR
Powell, Boog	Righetti, Dave
Puckett, Kirby	Rijo, Jose
Raines, Tim	Rincon, Andy
Randolph, Willie	Roberts, Dave
Rice, Jim	Roberts, Robin
Ripken, Cal	Rogers, Steve
Roberts, Bip	Romo, Vicente
Robertson, Bob	Rooker, Jim
Robinson, Brooks	Russell, Jeff
Robinson, Frank	Ryan, Nolan
Rojas, Cookie	Saberhagen, Bret
Romano, Johnny	Sambito, Joe
Rose, Pete	Sanders, Ken
Runnels, Pete	Saucier, Kevin
Samuel, Juan	Scott, Mike
Sandberg, Ryne	Searage, Ray
Sanguillen, Manny	Seaver, Tom
Santiago, Benito	Shantz, Bobby
Santo, Ron	Short, Chris
Sax, Steve	Siebert, Sonny
Schmidt, Mike	Singer, Bill
Sciosia, Mike	Smith, Bryn
Scott, George	Smith, Dave
Seitzer, Kevin	Smith, Zane
Sexton, Jimmy	Sosa, Elias
Siebern, Norm	Soto, Mario
Simmons, Ted	Spahn, Warren
Singleton, Ken	Stewart, Dave
Smith, Lonnie	Stieb, Dave
Smith, Ozzie	Stottlemyre, Mel
Smith, Reggie	Sutcliffe, Rick
Stargell, Willie	Sutter, Bruce
Staub, Rusty	Sutton, Don
Stennett, Rennie	Swan, Craig
Strawberry, Daryl	Tanana, Frank
Stuart, Dick	Tatum, Ken
Summers, Champ	Tekulve, Kent
Sundberg, Jim	Terry, Ralph
Tartabull, Danny	Thigpen, Bobby
Templeton, Garry	Tiant, Luis
Tenace, Gene	Tiefenauer, Bobby
Thomas, Gorman	Tudor, John
Thompson, Jason	Umbricht, Jim
Thompson, Milt	Valenzuela, Fernando
Thon, Dickie	Veale, Bob
Tillman, Bob	Viola, Frank
Tollefson, Wayne	Welch, Bob
Torre, Joe	Wilhem, Hoyt
Tovar, Cesar	Willoughby, Jim
Trammell, Alan	Wilson, Don
VanSlyke, Andy	Witt, Bobby
Versalles, Zoilo	Witt, Mike
Watson, Bob	Wood, Wilbur
Whitaker, Lou	Worthington, Al
White, Bill	Wright, Clyde
White, Roy
Williams, Billy
Wills, Maury
Wilson, Willie
Winfield, Dave
Wynn, Jimmy
Yastrzemski, Carl
Yount, Robin

4/28/2013 6:49 PM

italyprof

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pinotfan, you and I ran the board this time - goes to show that even a libertarian and a socialist have something in common - whatever it is (um, social lives so inadequate that we know the names of obscure 1961-90 baseball players ?)

4/28/2013 7:34 PM

italyprof

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dcmatcheck, I thought Arroyo was a stroke of genius on my part., he was on my round 6 list. Alas, you must have read the same thing in a Bill James book that I did the other day...one day sooner.

Good pick up on your part, congrats.

4/28/2013 7:43 PM

uncleal

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339 6 2 4

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bheid: Just so you notice, Von Hayes was blocked by deer454... that should be bold for you

4/28/2013 7:49 PM

pinotfan

Posts: 1828 (0)

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461 1

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Anyone looking for catching, I have Sanguillen, Hassey, and Kennedy. I'm leaning toward keeping Sanguillen, but that's not set in stone. Drop me a sitemail if interested, and we can discuss options: I'm fairly happy with my team, but there's always room for improvement!

4/28/2013 7:55 PM

georgedeer

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Fixed Von Hayes. Thanks.
Also, had Arroyo on my list this time, but figured I had a better chance of getting Al Worthington. Maybe I shouldn't think so much.

4/28/2013 8:24 PM

dcmatcheck

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Italyprof and georgedeer,
I didn't read what bill James had to say about arroyo, and I'd like to say that I used some brilliant strategy to pick him, but that's not the case. . I've tried every which way in this draft and have concluded that it pretty much boils down to luck. How does Rico Carty get picked in the same round that Felipe Alou gets blocked by 5 or six guys?

4/29/2013 7:08 AM (edited)

italyprof

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"Of your philosophy you have no use if you give place to accidental evil."

4/29/2013 7:54 AM

italyprof

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I sitemailed my list yesterday - is that one of the missing ones. I can send it to you by email if you let me know that you don't have it.

4/29/2013 11:59 AM

georgedeer

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While we're waiting, here's where we stand after 5 rounds. Let me know of any discrepancies.

		Through Round 5
bheid408		16
bigfatjew		10
brucel		13
dcmatcheck		13
deer454		11
dlchow		9
fire13		14
georgedeer		14
good_beef		21
italyprof		18
loudawg10		14
mattyberk		20
micki		14
mllama54		16
pinotfan		23
pmars2001		14
reddtrain		16
shawbigred		9
shysters3		13
specsman		15
spotsell		17
toysboys		10
uncleal		13
zephyr1949		17
Total		350
Average		14.6

4/29/2013 12:12 PM

pinotfan

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Posted by italyprof on 4/29/2013 7:54:00 AM (view original):
"Of your philosophy you have no use if you give place to accidental evil."

Et tu, Cassius?

4/29/2013 6:10 PM

georgedeer

Posts: 3228 (0)

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bheid408	Hal Morris, Tim Corcoran, Ray Washburn, Calvin Schiraldi, Terry Fox, Art Fowler
bigfatjew	Ron Cey, Tim Wallach, Wayne Causey, Roy Smalley, Chet Lemon, Jimmy Hall
brucel	Dave Cash, Johnny Blanchard, Phil Regan, Steve Hamilton, Al Hrabosky, Pete Ladd
dcmatcheck	John Kruk, Steve Hamilton, Earl Wilson, Bill Hands, Fred Newman, Eddie Fisher
deer454	Cito Gaston, Harold Baines, Ron Gant, Doug Corbett, Pete Ladd, Bill Dailey
dlchow	Jim Landis, Pete Ward, John Kruk, Tom Hall, Pete Ladd, Julio Solano
fire13	Ron Hunt, Ernie Banks, Ken Harrelson, Jim Pagliaroni, Mike Boddicker, Greg Minton
georgedeer	Gary Roenicke, Gus Triandos, Steve Braun, Bill Dailey, Frank LaCorte, Dwight Siebler
good_beef	Aurelio Rodriguez, Joe Azcue, Mike Kingery, Dwayne Murphy, Metropolitan Stadium
italyprof	Woody Held, Johnny Blanchard, Oscar Gamble, Walt Bond, Mike Marshall (P), Calvin Schiraldi
loudawg10	John Kruk, Johnny Blanchard, Chet Lemon, Ron Hansen, Frank Thomas, Albie Pearson
mattyberk	Willie Davis, Glenn Davis, Roy Smalley, Larry Bowa, Charlie Hough, Fenway Park
micki	Johnny Ray, Damaso Garcia, Oscar Gamble, Rick Wise, Blue Moon Odom, Les Lancaster
mllama54	Mike Lavalliere, Lou Piniella, Don Clendenon, Dan Driessen, Mark Salas, Stan Williams
pinotfan	Bill Dawley, Bob Reynolds, Eddie Fisher
pmars2001	Chris Speier, Roy Smalley, Earl Averill, Ron Perranoski, Mike Marshall (P), Frank Dipino
reddtrain	Mark Bailey, Chris Bando, Billy Grabarkewitz, Lenny Randle, Bill Dailey, Mark Davis
shawbigred	Roy Smalley, Bill Hands, Mark Gubicza, Gregg Olson, Bill Caudill, Dodger Stadium
shysters3	Brook Jacoby, Ron Hansen, Carl Taylor, Mike Boddicker, Greg Swindell, Tom Burgmeier
specsman	Eddie Bressoud, Gene Alley, Cito Gaston, Ron Gant, Reuben Sierra, Jim Hardin

4/30/2013 9:36 AM (edited)

georgedeer

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4/29/2013 8:54 PM

Ernie Banks, Willie Mays Aikens, Greg Goosen, Bill Schroeder, Oscar Gamble, Jim Corsi

toysboys

Oscar Gamble, John Lowenstein, Bump Wills, Tom Satriano, Jim Pagliaroni, Phil Regan

Fred Newman, Barney Schultz, Eddie Watt, Phil Regan, Steve Hamilton, Atlanta Fulton County Stadium

zephyr1949

Jim Pagliaroni, Bob James, Bob Reynolds, Joe Grzenda, Barney Schultz, Royals Stadium