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Yes, all but one of my Worlds has not simmed the PM cycle.
3/22/2020 1:00 PM
I submitted a ticket but we will see how long it takes for them to respond.
3/22/2020 1:04 PM
Posted by opie100 on 3/21/2020 10:34:00 PM (view original):
Any long term success with three-pitch SPs?
I’m giving it a go with:
Player Profile: Jose Martin - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports
3/23/2020 6:15 PM
World 1: Coll scouting $20M, HS $0 --- 500 total viewable prospects: 257 hitters, 243 pitchers
World 2: HS scouting $18M, Coll $0 --- 188 total viewable prospects: 103 hitters, 85 pitchers (Also 122 coll players and 37 HS where you can only see position, hand, age)

I realize this isn't breaking news -- just still seems weird to me.
3/23/2020 11:33 PM (edited)
If mining for gold among the chaff in the draft pool that your scouts haven't bothered to rate, have you had better luck with players a) where you can see just position/hand/age; or b) where everything is a ??? Also, any better luck within the player type you're currently scouting (20M budget) vs. not (0M budget)?
3/24/2020 9:09 AM (edited)
When I used to draft HS players, I'd get the prospect distributions you're talking about... less than 200 scouted. Of those, usually about 120 were useless, as in, the last thing you want to do is blow your 5th round pick on a player who's never going to get over 50 overall. So I would manually rank maybe 60 players, then push all the crap down to the 500 level. I'd rather have had a lottery ticket with a mid round pick than a player who I was guaranteed would be useless. Then I'd just sign everyone and see what fell out.

I switched the scouting on that team and now draft College players instead.

3/24/2020 9:47 AM
Did you have more lottery success with players that were complete ??? or those that were partial ???
3/24/2020 9:50 AM
Posted by opie100 on 3/24/2020 9:50:00 AM (view original):
Did you have more lottery success with players that were complete ??? or those that were partial ???
I have neeeeever tracked that before as, to me, it seems like an effort in futility. In all my seasons of HBD I have had one player that was a lottery pick that has been a serviceable big leaguer. I have no idea what my scouting said about him before the draft took place.
3/24/2020 10:16 AM
Posted by opie100 on 3/24/2020 9:50:00 AM (view original):
Did you have more lottery success with players that were complete ??? or those that were partial ???
TBH I never noticed the difference between. I can think of one player I got lucky with who was a ???.

3/24/2020 11:00 AM
Posted by opie100 on 3/24/2020 9:50:00 AM (view original):
Did you have more lottery success with players that were complete ??? or those that were partial ???
I have got one [non-ditr] guy past round 11 where he is an 80+ overall player. I have been playing the lottery system mentioned above for about twelve seasons in my Worlds. The guy I got was nowhere near the studs you read about on the boards, but any time you can get a guy like the below, it helps a little bit. I am not sure it is worth the work though. It usually takes an extra 45-60 minutes to add those lottery guys to the mid tiers area of your board. This guy ended up being a high school guy so he was a partial ??? guy -- could see his age and position.

Player Profile: Kent Dorsey - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports

Also, I find the above post regarding 100 percent disability quite odd. It makes sense in real life because good to great college players are easily scoutable and high potential high school guys can be difficult to find, but if $20 million on college scouting gets you full visability to 500 college players, I find it odd that many of the lottery ticket picks that turn out to be studs have been college players.
3/24/2020 4:08 PM
One of the better teams in Glavine ended up getting the below guy in the 20th round. He helped the team win a title this past season. College player.

Player Profile: Jason Hunter - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports
3/24/2020 4:11 PM
Why is it that owners complain when a rookie owner trades a prospect for a veteran you would think you know what your getting in a veteran but rookies r unknown
3/24/2020 4:23 PM
Posted by Frewilley on 3/24/2020 4:23:00 PM (view original):
Why is it that owners complain when a rookie owner trades a prospect for a veteran you would think you know what your getting in a veteran but rookies r unknown
Generally speaking, if you have a decent scouting budget for a given category, you have a pretty good sense of where those players are going to end up, barring injury or sustained bad coaches. Prospects are more valuable than their equivalent $6M veteran because of the cheaper seasons that owner will get out of that player at league minimum, then at arbitration -- also because vets over 30 will start to deteriorate. Top draft picks and high signing bonus IFAs are often unrealistically likely to be successful (not because of where they are picked, but because high-priced scouts are unrealistically accurate).

Savvy veteran owners like to prey on new owners that don't know yet that their prospects are often worth more than the aging all-star vet. That's why worlds should be better organized by experience level.
3/24/2020 5:53 PM (edited)
Ok tx
3/24/2020 5:41 PM
Posted by opie100 on 3/24/2020 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Frewilley on 3/24/2020 4:23:00 PM (view original):
Why is it that owners complain when a rookie owner trades a prospect for a veteran you would think you know what your getting in a veteran but rookies r unknown
Generally speaking, if you have a decent scouting budget for a given category, you have a pretty good sense of where those players are going to end up, barring injury or sustained bad coaches. Prospects are more valuable than their equivalent $6M veteran because of the cheaper seasons that owner will get out of that player at league minimum, then at arbitration -- also because vets over 30 will start to deteriorate. Top draft picks and high signing bonus IFAs are often unrealistically likely to be successful (not because of where they are picked, but because high-priced scouts are unrealistically accurate).

Savvy veteran owners like to prey on new owners that don't know yet that their prospects are often worth more than the aging all-star vet. That's why worlds should be better organized by experience level.
I can't +1 this enough

3/24/2020 7:12 PM
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