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I'm guessing with the recent jazz talk, a nomination for dh receiving time man of the year is not out of question.
6/4/2020 9:21 PM
I mean is there an award for greatest theme?
6/4/2020 9:24 PM
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 9:24:00 PM (view original):
I mean is there an award for greatest theme?
There will be.
6/4/2020 9:24 PM
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 8:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/4/2020 6:11:00 PM (view original):
I can't do edibles. Wish I could, but it always turns out horribly. I can provide evidentiary proof if needed.
not even like gummies? that's too bad
I’m exclusively gummies now. Having a defined mix and ratio, in an exact portion is exactly what I need. Every time I do flower now I end up way too high.
6/4/2020 9:53 PM
I smoked actual cigarettes well into my 40s - dont want to smoke anything now so gummies all the way for me
6/4/2020 10:18 PM
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 10:18:00 PM (view original):
I smoked actual cigarettes well into my 40s - dont want to smoke anything now so gummies all the way for me
I guess I just haven't opened the right sort of cabinet. Haven't tried gummies. My first experience was brownies (and they were delicious!). None of the dudes I was with had any experience what they were doing. I snarfed three (or four?) brownies in the parking waiting to proceed toward an open-air performance of Def Leppard (Heart as the opener). By the time I got through the security I was convinced I had morphed into a flat (not kidding, two-dimensional) Charlie Brown, wobbling my way across the endless lawn which in turn had become a sprawling, billowing version of the gameboard of LIFE. I spent the entire concert hugging my knees and rocking back and forth, trying to convince my friends that I couldn't breathe (because flat) and that every cop on the scene was looking for me. I hallucinated hideously for twelve hours. Don't try this at home, kids. I became a cautionary tale.
6/4/2020 10:50 PM
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/4/2020 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 10:18:00 PM (view original):
I smoked actual cigarettes well into my 40s - dont want to smoke anything now so gummies all the way for me
I guess I just haven't opened the right sort of cabinet. Haven't tried gummies. My first experience was brownies (and they were delicious!). None of the dudes I was with had any experience what they were doing. I snarfed three (or four?) brownies in the parking waiting to proceed toward an open-air performance of Def Leppard (Heart as the opener). By the time I got through the security I was convinced I had morphed into a flat (not kidding, two-dimensional) Charlie Brown, wobbling my way across the endless lawn which in turn had become a sprawling, billowing version of the gameboard of LIFE. I spent the entire concert hugging my knees and rocking back and forth, trying to convince my friends that I couldn't breathe (because flat) and that every cop on the scene was looking for me. I hallucinated hideously for twelve hours. Don't try this at home, kids. I became a cautionary tale.
That used to be me when I would lose control on flower.

Edibles produced by professionals are a really dialed in experience and a qualified budtender should be able to steer you to one perfectly tailored to your desired experience (mine is I want to have about 2.5 hours of really enjoying food based programming/NBA (in the old days) before having a delightful 8 hours of sleep, so 17% each of indica and sativa in a 5 mg dose... this is some weakboy ****).
6/5/2020 12:26 AM
So my assessment of my teams is above average ODL teams with a really good bench, but not quite as good as a DH52 team. Does that sound about right to everyone or do my teams suck?
6/5/2020 12:27 AM
Posted by robusk on 6/5/2020 12:26:00 AM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/4/2020 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 10:18:00 PM (view original):
I smoked actual cigarettes well into my 40s - dont want to smoke anything now so gummies all the way for me
I guess I just haven't opened the right sort of cabinet. Haven't tried gummies. My first experience was brownies (and they were delicious!). None of the dudes I was with had any experience what they were doing. I snarfed three (or four?) brownies in the parking waiting to proceed toward an open-air performance of Def Leppard (Heart as the opener). By the time I got through the security I was convinced I had morphed into a flat (not kidding, two-dimensional) Charlie Brown, wobbling my way across the endless lawn which in turn had become a sprawling, billowing version of the gameboard of LIFE. I spent the entire concert hugging my knees and rocking back and forth, trying to convince my friends that I couldn't breathe (because flat) and that every cop on the scene was looking for me. I hallucinated hideously for twelve hours. Don't try this at home, kids. I became a cautionary tale.
That used to be me when I would lose control on flower.

Edibles produced by professionals are a really dialed in experience and a qualified budtender should be able to steer you to one perfectly tailored to your desired experience (mine is I want to have about 2.5 hours of really enjoying food based programming/NBA (in the old days) before having a delightful 8 hours of sleep, so 17% each of indica and sativa in a 5 mg dose... this is some weakboy ****).
Food-based programming...say more about that. Me, I'm a Top Chef aficionado. Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives is a guilty pleasure. I watch The Great British Baking Show while working out at the gym.
6/5/2020 5:37 AM
My teams are assembled. I went with 3 Barkleys at SF and 2 Barkleys at PF. You guys are in treble..
6/5/2020 5:37 AM
Posted by robusk on 6/5/2020 12:27:00 AM (view original):
So my assessment of my teams is above average ODL teams with a really good bench, but not quite as good as a DH52 team. Does that sound about right to everyone or do my teams suck?
Hard to say for me personally, having been out of the draft leagues for so long, but I think there's more prog element here than draft league element. I mean, those core elements from the draft league are the same, but I think the overall champ is going to be the person who build the best five teams, not the owner who built one (or even two) amazing teams but the rest ****.

Since we're near the end of the draft, here was where my head was at in classic Ash-bullet point format (ie starts short & succinct, ends in paragraphs):

1) Have one really high minute guy through all five seasons so I didn't have to worry about finding multiple backups - one guy at end of the draft. [Oscar]

2) Get high efg% + high usg% + low tov% + tons of 3s + solid D at SG to start [Klay] and get the best two guys possible to back him up at all of those cats (except for defense). [Redd & Rice] work perfectly for this. Originally I wanted one high efg%, low tov%, **** defense guy & one medium efg%, low tov%, solid defense guy. Peja (or Redd, Rice, etc) for first guy, Oladipo (or VC) for the other, but Peja, VC, and Oladipo all went the round I planned on nabbing my two Klay backups, so I just doubled up on the high efg%/low tov%/**** defense plan.

3) Spend seven picks on guys with decent positional flexibility for all three front court positions that gave me solid to elite defense & decent drb%, but more importantly low tov% & pf48 that I could piece together into five individual fantastic front courts. Sanders & Humphries really are there for just one season each; Muresan for two. Webber has one outstanding season that will start and several others that are good for depth. He works really well with Brand & Silas at SF, and they all work at PF and C to defend the Shaqs & Kareems of the league; All five Okafor seasons I'm using are really nice combos of efg%, crb%, and tov%, 100% at PF & C and around 90% at SF (so can hide his mediocre to bad defense for those seasons against weakest front court offensive player while I'm getting that 80/90 defense from Silas & Brand against the stronger two); Humphries also works in the same way for the one season I plan on using. Muresan is pretty much center only, buuuut with the other 6... I have lots of options for positional depth.

This could bite me in the ***. Every time I took one of these guys, I almost took somebody else that had better boards (Buck, Boerwinkle, Dalembert, Ray, Przybilla, etc) or defense (Tree comes to mind but there were others) but higher tov% and/or much higher pfs. My decline in draft leagues really came when I started deciding I could put off getting boards from my bigs till the end of the draft where I took guys that gave big boards but high turnovers & fouls, so I decided to try 85-90 ish drb% with 10-13 (for most part; I have a few seasons that are closer to 15) tov% instead of forcing myself to grab 95-110 drb% & 15-20% tov%.

4) Usage. There's no salary cap, so the only negative for having more usage than you normally need is taking away shots from your best efg% guys. Most of my efg% is solid, with the only poor efg% guy being lowest usage on squad. Having run into the issue of not having enough usage on prog teams has been frustrating in the past (already hearing at least one owner talking about making that mistake here), so I made sure I was basically going for tier 4+ usage guys for the most part across the board. The result is my potential SL for each squad is ranging from 105-110 cumulative usage, which is actually where I typically shoot for/run my teams anyway, with backups never taking it below 100 or above 115, and the team possession penalty will absolutely never come into play (Oscar 4 + three of the other four positions being 2+ = 10).

As usual, I tried to aim for higher efg% for the higher usg%, but that isn't always possible.

Speculative Analysis: I think I'll be on the good end of the middle of the pack when it comes to fg% differential, but closer to the middle than the top. I suspect that I'll be below the middle of the pack when it comes to rebound differential, but I hope that will be balanced by my relatively low tov%. Even Oscar, a turnover machine, is actually pretty decent for a point guard (15-15.5% for the seasons I'm using) and is the highest tov% guy on the squad (with exceptions of the seasons of the front court guys I'm not using in the rotation for that season). Concerning though is the lack of forced turnovers; I don't have any stl% monsters, though it's not something I've ever focused on (it just always happens with guys like CP3). I think I should be near the top of the league every season in fewest personal fouls, an area I used to focus greatly on but got further and further away from, and as I did, my W-L suffered.

Optimistically I think I could win 50-55 games a season; more realistically 45-50. I could absolutely be in the 30-35 range though, as it's hard to really judge all of these teams at a glance, especially since I've spent hours & hours tweaking & diddling with my own. Regardless, I will be disappointed if I finish below .500 though any season and overjoyed if I get 60+ and/or a championship.

This has been the most fun I've had on this website in at least five years & has really renewed my interest in this site. Good luck to everybody!
6/5/2020 6:34 AM (edited)
Great analysis Ash, looking forward to seeing what you do
6/5/2020 8:34 AM
I like the Oliver Miller pick. Has quite a few good seasons off the bench
6/5/2020 8:49 AM
Thanks! My wing rotations and big men rotations are both going to be cobbled together from 10 guys who each have 1-3 good seasons each. Let’s see if I can make it work.
6/5/2020 9:00 AM
The Harden pick in the first was made due to several factors.

My strategy was to put as much (good) salary on the floor at once since there’s no cap, and after some research I figured that the best way to do this was to land an expensive, good PG since only a few of those guys exist in the SIM, and 2 of them are banned. Lots of the guys we consider good PGs are more of the lower salary, efficient/low TO-build, but also have low rebounds and generally don’t do much aside from being a decent passer and good 4th scorer. While they’re great in a cap league, in a capless format I wanted to avoid those guys. I reasoned that by having more dollars on the floor than my opponent (without sacrificing fit and without reaching for bad expensive players), I’d probably create an advantage. I could be very wrong though. We’ll find out.

Harden also means I don’t have to reach for 3s at any point in the draft, and many 3 point shooters are specialists who don’t do much else, so that helps my strategy of putting as much good salary on the court as possible.

He did create a few problems. Now I have to maximize D while minimizing TOs while also figuring out a way to boost assists since he’s on the lower side for a PG in some seasons.

So drafting to compliment Harden gave me:

His sole backup at PG for all 5 seasons:
Jerry West

West can replace most of Harden’s usage while scoring almost as efficiently. He’s a similar passer in most seasons - and while he’s a worse rebounder, he’s a much better defender. I don’t think my team will suffer in the minutes that West takes over for Harden, and playing him next to him occasionally can work too.


Swiss-army complimentary wings (lower usage, good at 2-3 of: D, rebounding, scoring, passing):

Donyell Marshall
Paul Pressey
Cedric Maxwell
Jamario Moon
Kyle Anderson

So at SG, I want a guy who is a good defender and a good secondary passer. Pressey can be that guy for 3 seasons. Kyle Anderson/Jerry West + Pressey’s lesser seasons can combine to be that guy in the other 2.

At SF, passing isn’t a focus but defense and rebounding are. Donyell can be the lead guy here for 3 seasons. Moon for another. Cedric Maxwell can be the starting SF in one season for a different look where I have a scorer there instead, probably in a build with Harden’s highest AST% plus good defenders at SG and PF.


Role playing big men (one good usage defender, one low usage defender with great rebounding):

Rudy Gobert
Alonzo Mourning
Dave Cowens
Joel Przybilla
Oliver Miller

basiaclly my PF will be my secondary scorer (Mourning as the starter, Cowens fits the mold as a backup but I’m not too happy with his eFG so Miller will get some run here too as a more efficient lower usage guy) who can also be an elite defender and decent rebounder.

My C is going to be a super efficient board lord with good D (Gobert), backed up by a super efficient board lord with average D (Przybilla) or a super efficient, average rebounding guy with good D (Miller)


Lots of my players are only good for 2-3 seasons, but I’m pretty sure I can put 19,600 great minutes on each team. Still trying to math that part out though.

Now here comes the interesting part. Will any of this actually work?
6/5/2020 9:57 AM (edited)
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