i have season tix to both the Orange and Fiesta Bowls that I sell pretty much each yr.

There's not much interest in the Orange Bowl. However, the Fiesta has decent demand considering the teams (honestly, not much fan base). The Fiesta is being touted as the "Non-BCS Bowl" and the "Stick it to the BCS Bowl".

heres a question for all you " nobody would go to quarterfinal games" folks...

which game do you think would be more profitable?

the eagle one bowl between the 6th place SEC team (maybe number 20 in the country) and the 4th pace Big East team (maybe number 25 in the nation)

or

a quarter final game between the champ of the Big East and the champ of the Pac10?



think about it.

as for, "we cant travel three times in thhree weeks"

if we are talking about OhioSt as the example... ugh, fellas, based on what i have seen of that squad over the past few years against non-big10ers, i think you can plan on just playing one game!

seriously, same issue with hoops.

i really believe that with an 8 (and maybe even 16 but i think that is pushing it) team playoff the stadiums are gonna fill with folks from the neutral site areas. that quarterfinal weekend would be huge! I know i would probly watch every game and it would be the talk of the nation like the super bowl. and i am a fringe guy. i havent watched a complete college game in 10-15 years. I am the guy they need to cater to. the hard cores are going to be there no matter what. they need to get guys like me interested.

A playoff would do that in a heartbeat. if ilived in atlanta and there was a qfinal game in the gdome... i would kill to get tickets... without even knowing who was playing ( and thats how the tickets would lickely be sold... way prior to the event. just like the super bowl and final four. nobody knows who will be playing... but they know this is a big deal. a real big deal.

and the TV revenue is going to destroy the current setup. destroy. now, i dont know how this all works as to "who" gets the money, and i suspect that is the major hangup, but it is impossible for me to fathom a scenario where playoffs would make less money than the bowls.

and , as for the minor bowls. I dont see how it affects them. if there are folks that like watching thier team in these consolation games (and it seems like there must be or they wouldnt be there) then go for it.

but, obviusly, there is something political that is holding this back. it is too easy. too much of a slamdunk, yet we contimue to get the stubborn old party lines that a playoff would never work. it would work. and they know it.

i really hope i outlive the old codgers that are running the bowl "system" (and, by the way, running college football into the ground) . then maybe i will see the day when i am stretched on on the couch with clicker in hand and Coors and doritoes on the coffee table awaiting the most incredible afternoon in college football history, with games at 1,3,5,7pm (it'd be really nice if that could be on new years day.. like the old days)

...and i havent even started to talk about the national championship game! i think, if done right, it would make the superbowl look like a regualr season game between oakland and detroit.

but, what do i know?

This is the reason why the NFL is better than college football. College basketball is far a far superior spectator sport to the NBA because of the tournament.

15 meaningful tournament games will make more money than the 30 + meaningless bowls.

The basketball tournament games would sell out even if no one from the schools playing came to the games. Football would be the same.

College football is a joke with paper champs.

Quote: Originally Posted By tpob18 on 12/09/2009
The basketball tournament games would sell out even if no one from the schools playing came to the games. Football would be the same.

The 1st/2nd round games in the NCAA tournament don't always sell out. There are frequently plenty of empty seats, and attendance has been lagging in recent seasons. This is especially the case for early session games, or in larger arenas, or when there are no teams with local interest playing at the host site.

i think the football quarterfinals would be more popular than the marchmadness first round ... at least in terms of spectators at the games and ability to sell large numbers of tickets to neutral fans.

i think it would be more comparable to sweet sixteen or elite 8.... and im pretty sure those games usually sell out. i could be worng, but im tihinking they do.

regardless, i say the football qfinals sell out within a day or two of them announcing the sale... 8 months prior to the event or whatever.

if you try to expand to 16 teams and 4 rounds of games... then i think some of the issues the naysayers raise become more valid.... maybe.

though i would still be more inclined to watch a sw16 game than your average bowl game, heck, than any bowl game short of the one for all the marbles.

the bowl games to me have become the biggest bore in all of sports.

they may have even been better off when they had no "championship game". at least then there were usually two or three important games instead of one. does anyone really care who wins any of the bowl games except the champioship game and the one that their school is playing in? the answer is no. no, you do not care, in fact you could give a ratsass about all these meaningless bowls.

for ***** and giggles (and to show how effed up the WIS college simmatchup is) - i took the 11 conference winners, and the next 5 teams in the BCS, ranked em 1-16 via BCS and played 1 game each all the way thru - using home field for the higher seed, then neutral in championship game

here are the results

Round 1

74- 0 Alabama over Troy
73-10 Ohio State over Georgia Tech (yeah right)
9- 3 TCU over Penn State
10- 0 Florida over LSU
52-21 Cincinnati over Central Michigan
37-30 Boise State over Virginia Tech
46-35 Oregon over Iowa
58- 6 Texas over East Carolina

Round 2

33- 0 Alabama over Ohio State
10- 9 Florida over TCU
59-45 Cincinnati over Boise State
27-17 Texas over Oregon

Semi's

34-13 Alabama over Florida
50- 7 Texas over Cincinnati

Final

17- 3 Alabama over Texas



only 1 upset based on the rankings (Florida over TCU)

just some ridiculous scores

Still a pretty cool sim tracyr. There are some great games and Alabama would be a true champ. I know you did it by BCS but three teams from the big ten? I think you have to limit it two a two teams per conference max.

why put lesser teams in it just because they are from a shittier conference? the SEC also had 3

that thinking is part of the problem

"just some ridiculous scores"

Agreed ...Alabama blowing out Florida is a JOKE! (j/king)

i wonder how much the results change if we assume neutral field at least in the last three rounds