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If this update goes well I would love a d2 team again...

Maybe you should join the Big 10 so we can revive that rivalry!
1/15/2010 11:35 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/15/2010I said there's some luck in who falls down and who doesn't, not in who signs who and who doesn't...try to keep up.

god forbid they include luck in a simulation game! get your pitchforks and your torches, its lynching time!
1/15/2010 11:35 AM
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Only if they have "A" high prestige, right?
1/15/2010 11:36 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 1/15/2010
Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/15/2010 I said there's some luck in who falls down and who doesn't, not in who signs who and who doesn't...try to keep up.

god forbid they include luck in a simulation game! get your pitchforks and your torches, its lynching time


Then if there is luck, don't say there isn't....metsmax, are you reading this?
1/15/2010 11:37 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010Only if they have "A" high prestige, right
If you are talking to me? No the prestige doesn't matter if a kid says you are a backup then you can sign him.
1/15/2010 11:37 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By metsmax on 1/15/2010
all this talk of dropdowns reminds me of the days in the early seasons of Phelan when Z and I were each stalking and staking out possible dropdowns, pulldowns, etc....both of us in the GNAC

5zhawks20-1110-37-63-212-41113ANT At-large Bid
NT (Elite 8)
4zhawks25-610-212-23-214-21317AConf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
3zhawks18-107-311-50-211-559A-Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
2zhawks31-410-213-18-113-3210A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Championship Game)
1Sim AI27-611-110-46-111-513A-Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
National Champion


Taking byu, hawaii was a horrible career choice for me. We might have had a solid run but recruiting on the island is very tough.
1/15/2010 11:38 AM
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there is uncertainty about who will get a player, there is a good bit of call it science, call it skill or knowledge or craft or whatever....there is some "fog of war" - although I recall being rather careful to avoid battles over dropdowns - if the other guy was closer, I wasnt gonne fight unless I had a big prestige edge.,....or unless I had better anticipated his dropdown or better effected his pulldown
1/15/2010 11:39 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010
Only if they have "A" high prestige, right?
If you are talking to me? No the prestige doesn't matter if a kid says you are a backup then you can sign him
that was in reference of you going back to D2, suggesting that you're "too good" (not good enough) to resurrect a team with a poor prestige.
1/15/2010 11:39 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010
Only if they have "A" high prestige, right?
If you are talking to me? No the prestige doesn't matter if a kid says you are a backup then you can sign him.
that was in reference of you going back to D2, suggesting that you're "too good" (not good enough) to resurrect a team with a poor prestige
I laugh if you are calling me a cherry picker.
1/15/2010 11:41 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 1/15/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/15/2010
I said there's some luck in who falls down and who doesn't, not in who signs who and who doesn't...try to keep up.

god forbid they include luck in a simulation game! get your pitchforks and your torches, its lynching time!



Then if there is luck, don't say there isn't....metsmax, are you reading this?
see other post - now of course lets go back to the point that launched this discussion of luck - colonel's view - my summary - that because it reflects luck there should not be dropdowns, which is not well supported if there is a modest amount of luck along with a lot of skill/knowledge/smarts
1/15/2010 11:41 AM
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You can call me a cherry picker once you have accomplished this:



29zhawks35-012-014-09-016-011A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
28zhawks26-512-111-23-216-01211A+Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
27zhawks28-412-011-35-116-054A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Sweet 16)
26zhawks27-59-213-25-115-11111A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Sweet 16)
25zhawks33-211-113-19-014-213A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
24zhawks32-310-013-39-014-211A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
23zhawks24-611-310-23-113-346BConf Champion
CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
22zhawks18-138-57-63-29-769B-PI (2nd Round)
21zhawks16-1210-46-60-211-564B-Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
20zhawks17-129-57-51-29-756C+NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
19zhawks9-194-84-101-14-12178C
18Sim AI8-205-102-91-16-10255C+
1/15/2010 11:42 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010
Only if they have "A" high prestige, right?
If you are talking to me? No the prestige doesn't matter if a kid says you are a backup then you can sign him.
that was in reference of you going back to D2, suggesting that you're "too good" (not good enough) to resurrect a team with a poor prestige.
I laugh if you are calling me a cherry picker
Z, werent you the guy who never had a team for two seasons in a row? no, I'm mistaken, who could that be?
1/15/2010 11:42 AM
colonels19
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Quote: Originally Posted By metsmax on 1/15/2010see other post - now of course lets go back to the point that launched this discussion of luck - colonel's view - my summary - that because it reflects luck there should not be dropdowns, which is not well supported if there is a modest amount of luck along with a lot of skill/knowledge/smart
I agree with you here.

As for me wanting to see concrete D1, D2, and D3 lists, it probably will never happen...I just think it would eliminate some of the luck/randomness/guesswork of dropdowns while in turn making recruiting at all 3 levels more competitive because a lot more teams will be going after the same high profiled recruits, not waiting til day 3 or so to see who trickles down and who doesn't.
1/15/2010 11:46 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/15/2010
You can call me a cherry picker once you have accomplished this:



29zhawks35-012-014-09-016-011A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
28zhawks26-512-111-23-216-01211A+Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
27zhawks28-412-011-35-116-054A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Sweet 16)
26zhawks27-59-213-25-115-11111A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Sweet 16)
25zhawks33-211-113-19-014-213A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
24zhawks32-310-013-39-014-211A+Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
23zhawks24-611-310-23-113-346BConf Champion
CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
22zhawks18-138-57-63-29-769B-PI (2nd Round)
21zhawks16-1210-46-60-211-564B-Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
20zhawks17-129-57-51-29-756C+NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
19zhawks9-194-84-101-14-12178C
18Sim AI8-205-102-91-16-10255C+


And this was where?
1/15/2010 11:48 AM
zhawks
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By metsmax on 1/15/2010
see other post - now of course lets go back to the point that launched this discussion of luck - colonel's view - my summary - that because it reflects luck there should not be dropdowns, which is not well supported if there is a modest amount of luck along with a lot of skill/knowledge/smarts
I agree with you here.

As for me wanting to see concrete D1, D2, and D3 lists, it probably will never happen...I just think it would eliminate some of the luck/randomness/guesswork of dropdowns while in turn making recruiting at all 3 levels more competitive because a lot more teams will be going after the same high profiled recruits, not waiting til day 3 or so to see who trickles down and who doesn't.

There is no luck. None. If a player tells you that you are a backup then you can get the player to consider you, assuming no battles. 100% of the time, without a doubt.

You show (yet again i might add) that you really don't know anything about HD.
1/15/2010 11:49 AM
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