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Posted by tarheel1991 on 6/5/2020 4:13:00 PM (view original):
I thought we agreed we would just pick random $239k guys to rest? My concern with having to use seasons of the guys you drafted to rest, as I said, are twofold: (1) that people will legitimately get confused about which teams guys are supposed to be resting on; or (2) that people will wait to get a look at how the various leagues look before declaring which season a guy is resting. (For example - I wouldn't do this - but since I have to rest Montrezl Harrell for a season, I could put his best season on two teams then wait to see the competition before deciding he's resting on Team 1 or Team 2.)
yea thats still the case

i think copernicus was asking if he could rest a scrub instead of one of his 5+ seasons players
6/5/2020 4:21 PM
Ah I see. Sorry. Yeah, I agree for 5+ season guys you need to put five different seasons of that guy on the teams.
6/5/2020 4:22 PM
I specifically drafted only guys with 5+ years to avoid this headache
6/5/2020 4:24 PM
Posted by tarheel1991 on 6/5/2020 4:13:00 PM (view original):
I thought we agreed we would just pick random $239k guys to rest? My concern with having to use seasons of the guys you drafted to rest, as I said, are twofold: (1) that people will legitimately get confused about which teams guys are supposed to be resting on; or (2) that people will wait to get a look at how the various leagues look before declaring which season a guy is resting. (For example - I wouldn't do this - but since I have to rest Montrezl Harrell for a season, I could put his best season on two teams then wait to see the competition before deciding he's resting on Team 1 or Team 2.)
This is a valid concern. I think dh should just assign the three worst minimum salary dudes as scrubs that people put in rest but are so bad that if the unthinkable happened and they made it into the game, nobody flips their ****. I kind of avoided all players with less than five seasons due to the potential penalties mentioned earlier and WIS sub logic sometimes going insane at the end of games, ignoring all of your settings including sometimes rested settings.

this eliminates that risk.

and by worst, I mean absolute legends of heaping garbage. Steaming piles of ****.

This:

6/5/2020 4:31 PM
Posted by dBKC on 6/5/2020 2:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by pexetera on 6/5/2020 2:32:00 PM (view original):
that looks like Cambria quartz
Couldn’t tell you. This is a jazz thread. I’m not really in to rock.



I’ll see myself out. Sorry.
wow... just wow
6/5/2020 4:35 PM
Posted by copernicus on 6/5/2020 4:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dBKC on 6/5/2020 2:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by pexetera on 6/5/2020 2:32:00 PM (view original):
that looks like Cambria quartz
Couldn’t tell you. This is a jazz thread. I’m not really in to rock.



I’ll see myself out. Sorry.
wow... just wow
Welcome home.
6/5/2020 4:36 PM
Posted by dh555 on 6/5/2020 4:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by samuelyork93 on 6/5/2020 3:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dBKC on 6/5/2020 2:27:00 PM (view original):
I’m figuring out my teams by doing this while my wife stands there laughing at me

https://imgur.com/YXaF9tR
This look so similar to what my little whatif notebook on my desk looks like XD
same....i like to write it out...easier to see the whole picture imo

but mostly because i suck at computers
Given your success on WiS, isn't that arguably more impressive?
6/5/2020 4:40 PM
Posted by dh555 on 6/5/2020 4:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tarheel1991 on 6/5/2020 4:13:00 PM (view original):
I thought we agreed we would just pick random $239k guys to rest? My concern with having to use seasons of the guys you drafted to rest, as I said, are twofold: (1) that people will legitimately get confused about which teams guys are supposed to be resting on; or (2) that people will wait to get a look at how the various leagues look before declaring which season a guy is resting. (For example - I wouldn't do this - but since I have to rest Montrezl Harrell for a season, I could put his best season on two teams then wait to see the competition before deciding he's resting on Team 1 or Team 2.)
yea thats still the case

i think copernicus was asking if he could rest a scrub instead of one of his 5+ seasons players
Arvydas's kid doesnt have 5 seasons yet and I'm probably only going to use two of what he does have because the third one is trash
6/5/2020 6:00 PM (edited)
FYI Michael Smith seems way more useful than I originally realized
6/5/2020 6:22 PM
Posted by dBKC on 6/5/2020 2:47:00 PM (view original):
I’ll take your word on it. It came with the house. Is that a good thing? Or did the previous owner cheap out?
No, the previous owner didn't cheap out. Quartz is good stuff, durable and easy to maintain.
6/5/2020 6:33 PM
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/5/2020 5:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 6/5/2020 12:26:00 AM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/4/2020 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 10:18:00 PM (view original):
I smoked actual cigarettes well into my 40s - dont want to smoke anything now so gummies all the way for me
I guess I just haven't opened the right sort of cabinet. Haven't tried gummies. My first experience was brownies (and they were delicious!). None of the dudes I was with had any experience what they were doing. I snarfed three (or four?) brownies in the parking waiting to proceed toward an open-air performance of Def Leppard (Heart as the opener). By the time I got through the security I was convinced I had morphed into a flat (not kidding, two-dimensional) Charlie Brown, wobbling my way across the endless lawn which in turn had become a sprawling, billowing version of the gameboard of LIFE. I spent the entire concert hugging my knees and rocking back and forth, trying to convince my friends that I couldn't breathe (because flat) and that every cop on the scene was looking for me. I hallucinated hideously for twelve hours. Don't try this at home, kids. I became a cautionary tale.
That used to be me when I would lose control on flower.

Edibles produced by professionals are a really dialed in experience and a qualified budtender should be able to steer you to one perfectly tailored to your desired experience (mine is I want to have about 2.5 hours of really enjoying food based programming/NBA (in the old days) before having a delightful 8 hours of sleep, so 17% each of indica and sativa in a 5 mg dose... this is some weakboy ****).
Food-based programming...say more about that. Me, I'm a Top Chef aficionado. Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives is a guilty pleasure. I watch The Great British Baking Show while working out at the gym.
Also a Top Cheg aficionado (shout out to my boy from Portland Greg). I watch a **** load of Bon Apettit content. I can’t really **** with Food Network except for Good Eats and Chopped (which is my ultimate guilty pleasure). GBBS also very good.
6/5/2020 6:34 PM
Just saw your draft recap @bds9992. You have a pretty unique squad. Thanks for the write up.
6/5/2020 6:51 PM
Posted by robusk on 6/5/2020 6:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/5/2020 5:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 6/5/2020 12:26:00 AM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/4/2020 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by copernicus on 6/4/2020 10:18:00 PM (view original):
I smoked actual cigarettes well into my 40s - dont want to smoke anything now so gummies all the way for me
I guess I just haven't opened the right sort of cabinet. Haven't tried gummies. My first experience was brownies (and they were delicious!). None of the dudes I was with had any experience what they were doing. I snarfed three (or four?) brownies in the parking waiting to proceed toward an open-air performance of Def Leppard (Heart as the opener). By the time I got through the security I was convinced I had morphed into a flat (not kidding, two-dimensional) Charlie Brown, wobbling my way across the endless lawn which in turn had become a sprawling, billowing version of the gameboard of LIFE. I spent the entire concert hugging my knees and rocking back and forth, trying to convince my friends that I couldn't breathe (because flat) and that every cop on the scene was looking for me. I hallucinated hideously for twelve hours. Don't try this at home, kids. I became a cautionary tale.
That used to be me when I would lose control on flower.

Edibles produced by professionals are a really dialed in experience and a qualified budtender should be able to steer you to one perfectly tailored to your desired experience (mine is I want to have about 2.5 hours of really enjoying food based programming/NBA (in the old days) before having a delightful 8 hours of sleep, so 17% each of indica and sativa in a 5 mg dose... this is some weakboy ****).
Food-based programming...say more about that. Me, I'm a Top Chef aficionado. Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives is a guilty pleasure. I watch The Great British Baking Show while working out at the gym.
Also a Top Cheg aficionado (shout out to my boy from Portland Greg). I watch a **** load of Bon Apettit content. I can’t really **** with Food Network except for Good Eats and Chopped (which is my ultimate guilty pleasure). GBBS also very good.
Also, edibles followed by Planet Earth and Chinese food is one of my all time favorite activities.
6/5/2020 7:22 PM
My quick thoughts on my team by round, as inspired by bds:

1. Durant - already explained. Tons of high-usage, high-efficiency seasons. Doesn't hurt me anywhere except OREB

2. Chandler - wanted to match Durant with a high-efg board lord. "Board lord" may be overselling it with him because his DREB in some seasons is only OK, but he basically fit the bill.

3. Lucas - love him in this format. But I probably underestimated how many good low-usage bigs are out there; see Unseld below. Note: I didn't pay enough attention to the fact that this locked me in to two low-usage bigs.

4. Mullin - a misstep. I fell in love with two great seasons - 89-90 and 96-97 - and his overall solid depth of usable seasons. But what I really needed to do here was draft a PG; Derek Harper or Jrue Holiday. Other decent wings would have been there in the late 5th - heck Mullin could have been there - but my PG board was ravaged (and I should have seen that coming). And while good, Mullin doesn't provide the rebounding or D that I probably needed to secure at this spot.

5. LIllard - I like Dame in this format. As someone said, I'd love him even more if I had his killer 19-20 season (but then he wouldn't have been around in the 5th). He makes up for mediocre efg in most seasons with a really high FT percentage (a theme with Durant and Mullin as well), though that is undervalued in the SIM. And he's very consistent across five seasons, making him easier to build around. But this left me in bit of a tricky situation defensively on the wing, which helped contribute to me picking...

6. McMIllan. Not a bad value at this spot, I don't think; while only for 2000ish minutes, five seasons provide very solid high-defense, high-assist, low-usage PG play with solid rebounding, too. I planned to basically have Durant/Lillard/Mullin covering two high-usage spots in the lineup and then a lower-usage, higher-defense guard. The problem: with two low-usage bigs, I couldn't afford McMillan's sub-14% usage in most seasons, because I'm risking paying the team usage penalty often. The pick here should have been Paul Pressey, who is messier than McMillan but would have provided the usage I needed with basically the same defense and assists.

7. Unseld - one of the best values of the entire draft, in my opinion. Mitigated by the fact that I already had Lucas, a very similar player. But even if Unseld is getting 1000-2000 backup minutes instead of starter's minutes - he'll probably start for one or two teams - there wasn't a better 1000-2000 minute backup available. Another blow to my already iffy defense, though; keep in mind Chandler only has two 90-defense seasons.

8. Harrell - I thought he would go earlier. I know he only has one starter/sixth man season and two 1000-minute backup seasons, but there just weren't many guys with 60+ efg% seasons left at this point of the draft, particularly at his usage level. His best season could win me a league; it may have to for me to have a chance. That season will likely push KD to SG for at least one season.

9. O'Quinn - I thought hard about picking him instead of Unseld in the 7th and never thought he'd be around here. Three great backup seasons with two things my front line badly needed - 70+ defense and good efg% at a higher usage than most Chandler/Lucas seasons. He should keep me out of the team penalty and keep my defense competitive for several hundred minutes in those three seasons, which could be key.

10. Brandon Roy - he has one great season that I love and that should get him drafted in the ODL every year (though the rest of the league doesn't seem to agree). One other decent season. Two others where he hopefully won't play too much but can at least help me keep enough usage on the floor. One key benefit of most of his seasons: he can back up Lillard at the 1 and Durant at the 3, which allows me to pair a couple of good, lower-usage Mullin seasons with McMillan at the 2. Another thing he shares with Lillard and Durant - low fouls. Plus really low turnovers for a high-usage guy.

11. Delonte West - needed someone with credible D and assists - and preferably higher usage than McMillan - to pair with Nate at the 1 for the seasons where Lillard is playing the 2. His 05-06 season is very good and a couple of others are fine.

12. Bob Gross - a backup plan as a lower-usage guy in case I'm getting killed on the boards or D. Lots of fouls and turnovers but tons of offensive rebounds for a guard, plus high efg%, good defense, and a handful of assists.

The biggest problems I expect to have with some of my teams, in order: (1) defense, (2) sufficient usage, (3) rebounding (the bigs are fine but the perimeter guys are not that great).
6/5/2020 7:47 PM
I've really enjoyed reading everybody's summation/head check. Thank you all for sharing!
6/5/2020 8:24 PM
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