Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

I already explained why CCCP's steps don't work. Again, the issue isn't opportunity, it is equal opportunity. If school funding is not equal for everyone, that is something we need to fix. Redlining still affects us and still exists in ways. Right now people can work harder, do the e steps, etc and be kept back. That's something that we need to fix. Under me and Bad_Luck's system, there is actually MORE accountability. If you don't succeed, it will be because of you.

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

False choices. #1 is pejorative and racist. #2 is society blaming and shows no personal responsibility.

But that's how BL rolls....

It’s not a false choice.

If everyone has an equal opportunity, success, poverty rates, crime and prison rates, etc. should all come in right around the population as a whole.

But they don’t. So either blacks are inherently bad at life or there’s something else holding them back.

Posted by toddcommish on 1/16/2018 2:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

False choices. #1 is pejorative and racist. #2 is society blaming and shows no personal responsibility.

But that's how BL rolls....

Yeah. He refuses to acknowledge the Jewish piece. LOL

Jews are superior! He he he

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 2:49:00 PM (view original):
It’s not a false choice.

If everyone has an equal opportunity, success, poverty rates, crime and prison rates, etc. should all come in right around the population as a whole.

But they don’t. So either blacks are inherently bad at life or there’s something else holding them back.

WHAT NATIONALITY ARE YOU?!!??!!?

What held Jews back in Europe and in the US? They somehow succeeded? You keep ignoring that fact. And it is not ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS.

DAMMIT. Collin Powell's kid probably has more opportunities than my kids. I can see you playing the wealth card but no the race card.

FACT is we are not any more racist today than we were in the 60s but in the 60s 20% of AA families had one parent. Today it is 70%.
FACT white kids with one parent are a lot less successful than AA kids with two parents.

It has nothing to do with race but culture. Don't become a single parent....If you want to go down that path. I am happy to help! If you just cry racism then I think you will be crying for a long time without any success.

WHAT IS YOUR NATIONALITY?!?!?!

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

I understand that this is a bait question, but I'll take it and then you can enjoy falsely accusing me of being racist.

Black people, as a whole, tend to make poorer choices. I understand that steps were taken to put them in a poor situation, but the opportunity to get out of that poor situation is well within reach. I love statistics in most situations, but not here. As you have witnessed, I am HUGE on personal choice. You can't look at all encompassing stats when talking about personal choice. Every choice comes with a consequence. Natural consequences don't see race.

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

I already explained why CCCP's steps don't work. Again, the issue isn't opportunity, it is equal opportunity. If school funding is not equal for everyone, that is something we need to fix. Redlining still affects us and still exists in ways. Right now people can work harder, do the e steps, etc and be kept back. That's something that we need to fix. Under me and Bad_Luck's system, there is actually MORE accountability. If you don't succeed, it will be because of you.

If his steps don't work, why do people that follow them have more success?

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

I understand that this is a bait question, but I'll take it and then you can enjoy falsely accusing me of being racist.

Black people, as a whole, tend to make poorer choices. I understand that steps were taken to put them in a poor situation, but the opportunity to get out of that poor situation is well within reach. I love statistics in most situations, but not here. As you have witnessed, I am HUGE on personal choice. You can't look at all encompassing stats when talking about personal choice. Every choice comes with a consequence. Natural consequences don't see race.

Jesus Christ.

strikeout. If you are ever in Boston. Ping me. I'll buy you a beer or a coffee.

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 3:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/16/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

I understand that this is a bait question, but I'll take it and then you can enjoy falsely accusing me of being racist.

Black people, as a whole, tend to make poorer choices. I understand that steps were taken to put them in a poor situation, but the opportunity to get out of that poor situation is well within reach. I love statistics in most situations, but not here. As you have witnessed, I am HUGE on personal choice. You can't look at all encompassing stats when talking about personal choice. Every choice comes with a consequence. Natural consequences don't see race.

Jesus Christ.

SUPERSTAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 3:10:00 PM (view original):
strikeout. If you are ever in Boston. Ping me. I'll buy you a beer or a coffee.

I'll be there this summer actually.

SM me

BL keeps ignoring this. Too Funny. I'll post again.

WHAT NATIONALITY ARE YOU?!!??!!?

What held Jews back in Europe and in the US? They somehow succeeded? You keep ignoring that fact. And it is not ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS.

DAMMIT. Collin Powell's kid probably has more opportunities than my kids. I can see you playing the wealth card but no the race card.

FACT is we are not any more racist today than we were in the 60s but in the 60s 20% of AA families had one parent. Today it is 70%.
FACT white kids with one parent are a lot less successful than AA kids with two parents.

It has nothing to do with race but culture. Don't become a single parent....If you want to go down that path. I am happy to help! If you just cry racism then I think you will be crying for a long time without any success.

WHAT IS YOUR NATIONALITY?!?!?!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/29/don-lemon/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/

Racial or ethnic group	Percent of births considered "non-marital"
Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders	17 percent
Non-Hispanic whites	29 percent
Hispanics	53 percent
American Indian and Native Alaskans	66 percent
Non-Hispanic blacks	73 percent

DON'T BE A SINGLE PARENT!!!