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11/25/2008 6:30 PM
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it may be expired now or all i know. i doubt wis would keep that offer out there indefinetly
11/25/2008 6:34 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By ormank on 11/25/2008

You're assuming that people looking for a world to join know anything about the worlds they are choosing from. I highly doubt that most would.

I'm just going with the math. If the number of openings is more than the number of people to fill those openings, then the only way to fix that is to decrease the number of openings or increase the number of people to fill them.

You're just going on about irrelevancies.



And you're assuming that people are joining worlds with the most openings.

Which, without question, is completely and 100% incorrect. Someone looking to play has to choose between 20 openings and 5. Why in the hell would they choose 20? It doesn't work like that. You probably know this but want to contradict the facts.

Nonetheless, a world with 12 guys hanging on isn't harming anyone. This cannot be disputed. At least if you use facts.
11/25/2008 6:37 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 11/25/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By ormank on 11/25/2008
You're assuming that people looking for a world to join know anything about the worlds they are choosing from. I highly doubt that most would.

I'm just going with the math. If the number of openings is more than the number of people to fill those openings, then the only way to fix that is to decrease the number of openings or increase the number of people to fill them.

You're just going on about irrelevancies. And you're assuming that people are joining worlds with the most openings. Which, without question, is completely and 100% incorrect. Someone looking to play has to choose between 20 openings and 5. Why in the hell would they choose 20? It doesn't work like that. You probably know this but want to contradict the facts.Nonetheless, a world with 12 guys hanging on isn't harming anyone. This cannot be disputed. At least if you use facts.


Actually, I'm assuming no such thing. I'm simply stating that this boils to simple supply and demand. And currently supply far outweighs demand.
11/25/2008 7:03 PM
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And this has what, exactly, to do one, two, twelve guys staying in what is apparently a dead world? Are you assuming that they'd just sign up for another world if WifS shut them down?

Dumb assumption if you are.
11/25/2008 8:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hbdgirl on 11/25/2008
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 11/25/2008
I think you're missing my point. If I choose to reserve a team in World Dead and I'm the only owner in it(31 openings), why should anyone care? What and who, exactly, am I hurting?
You're not hurting anyone .... but you could actually be helping 31 people if you took your credits to a world that was one spot from filling instead of sitting in World Dead playing with yourself



This has been my point for the last couple of months. If owner really wanted to play HBD instead of dominating tard world with their stack ML roster just to win a WS title what difference does it make what world your in. If these worlds are not going to fill take the 12 owners that are still intrested in playing and fill up 1 or 2 worlds with them. Common it's not that difficult.
11/26/2008 9:47 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 11/25/2008
And this has what, exactly, to one, two, twelve guys staying in what is apparently a dead world? Are you assuming that they'd just sign up for another world if WifS shut them down?

Dumb assumption if you are.

Not a dumb assumption at all, from the way it sounds 11 of the owners are willing right now to dump the world take the credit and sign up for a different world and the only reason they havn't is 1 of the 12 is holding out and doesn't want to do it. WIS is only willing to give them credit if all 12 of them agree so the other 11 are holding on just to get the free credit. I'm not sure who the 1 person is but my guess is he has spent seasons trade raping people that have come and gone from the league has a great team and doesn't want to give it up. I think WIS should give the other 11 guys the credit and just either leave the guy sitting there by himself or shut down the world.
11/26/2008 9:54 AM
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No, it really is a dumb assumption. Several owners have cut back on teams. Either due to time or money. There's absolutely no reason to believe those 11 would use their credits in a new world. Maybe they just use them to renew in one of their different worlds.

Example: I was given the code to join another world. FREE TEAM!! I didn't, because if I move in either direction, it would be to eliminate a world. I've always felt I could only effectively manage, in the way I like to manage, 3 1/2 teams.
11/26/2008 9:58 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By mfoster55 on 11/26/2008This has been my point for the last couple of months. If owner really wanted to play HBD instead of dominating tard world with their stack ML roster just to win a WS title what difference does it make what world your in. If these worlds are not going to fill take the 12 owners that are still intrested in playing and fill up 1 or 2 worlds with them. Common it's not that difficult
People play this game for all different reasons. Some play for (a) the personal challenge to build the best team they can. Some play for (b) the camaraderie they share with the other owners in their worlds, i.e. just for fun. And some play (c) to win at all costs, which may include raping n00bs.

The players who fall under (a) or (b) probably can easily move to other worlds and either be successful (if they are good) or have fun (if they're with the right group of similar-minded owners).

But the ones who fall under (c) might not easily or comfortably fit in other worlds because they may not find it as easy to rape or bully their way to dominant teams and easy titles. They want to be the big fish in the little pond, and not just one of a group of 32.
11/26/2008 10:04 AM
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Maybe WIS should just give the 11 their free credits and let them split, and let that 1 dude just sit there with 31 openings.
11/26/2008 10:05 AM
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I still see no problem with a couple of owners sitting in a dead world. It's their money. Let them spend it how they see fit.

They aren't hurting anyone.
11/26/2008 10:08 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 11/26/2008
No, it really is a dumb assumption. Several owners have cut back on teams. Either due to time or money. There's absolutely no reason to believe those 11 would use their credits in a new world. Maybe they just use them to renew in one of their different worlds.

Example: I was given the code to join another world. FREE TEAM!! I didn't, because if I move in either direction, it would be to eliminate a world. I've always felt I could only effectively manage, in the way I like to manage, 3 1/2 teams.



No Mike it really isn't a stupid assumption I just went through their world chat and most of them are willing to move to a different world with the credit they are given. One of the guys they were waiting to hear back from is srauch and he has passed away. It seems like one guy holding up the agreement because it was his first team and he is willing to wait it out so to get the credit that they all want they are forced to wait it out. Really all you have to do is read the world chat. I sent a sitemail to one of them to let them know about srauch
11/26/2008 10:10 AM
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I believe more than one has said he'd just cut back teams.

If they were interested in joining other worlds, they'd have done it already. That world isn't filling. So there's no reason they can't keep their team there and hope to get a buyout while playing another world.

All you have to do is read between the lines and apply logic.
11/26/2008 10:13 AM
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But lets be honest me and MikeT23 are never going to agree on this. I think we just have diferent opinions on this. I know you say it doesn't hurt anybody and I agree, but it all goes back to the supply and demand thing. They are not increasing demand, so something has to give. I believe in an earlier post on this thread you said FWIW I think they should move along and that is the first time we agree on this topic. 12/8/08 is the date that I will be intrested to see how many openings there are. I'm predicting there will be between 150-200 openings
11/26/2008 10:15 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 11/26/2008
I believe more than one has said he'd just cut back teams.

If they were interested in joining other worlds, they'd have done it already. That world isn't filling. So there's no reason they can't keep their team there and hope to get a buyout while playing another world.

All you have to do is read between the lines and apply logic.





Some of them have and joined other worlds, when the offer was put to them there were 15 owners in the league and I believe they are down to 11. So some of them have moved on, but the owners that will get a credit for a full season are holding out for the credit. I think they were only getting credit for a full season if they have been in the league for 3 seasons if not they are only getting $10.
11/26/2008 10:17 AM
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