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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By jfinn19 on 1/17/2010
Ya I would definitely pay 13 bucks to recruit for 5 days. That would be loads of fun colonels.

I love how you guys equate "Less random than real life" as "Not random at all"...and you guys wonder why I say that you don't get it a lot......

Let's make one thing clear: I don't know what it's like for you at home, but you're not the smartest guy in the room here. Not by a long shot. I've never before seen a situation where someone bordering on the village idiot felt it was appropriate and justified to consistently talk down to everyone. Dude, read the threads, I'm just responding to what everyone is saying...people think that I want the sim to keep spitting out the same results over and over and over again, and that simply isn't true. Get off your high horse oh mighty dalter.

(And by the way, in your example of your friend above, he's merely offering an opinion -- sims should be less random than real life So wait, my comments are opinions, but your opinions are facts? Hilarious! Again, who am I more prone to believe, a guy that does what WIS does, or a guy that PLAYS what WIS does? -- that has nothing to do with any expertise or background he possesses. If he'd made an observation based on programming code that it seemed a certain defense was too powerful, that would be awfully relevant. But his randomness comment is 100% philosophy, and doesn't carry any special weight.

Someone else might say, "I think a sim should do its best to be as similar to real life as possible, so I think a little extra randomness to sort of mimic emotions, sickness, stress, jet lag, etc. is the way to go". And neither would be right or wrong, that is purely a philosophical assessment.) Well then stop painting your opinions as facts then.

THis coming from the person who says that its wrong of people to say they think he's wrong?

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/16/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 1/16/2010

Um. . . COlonels? I have never broight up VIrginia Vs Chaminade, one. . You could substitute that game with any extreme example even like your Chicago-Utah stuff that justifies extreme randomness in the sim.



And two. . .you seem to utterly, again, lack all understanding of both how simulations work and how statistics work . . . . I have a friend who works as a project analyst at Nielsen, has a Master's degree and has created his own basketball simulation game, and he agrees with me that a sim game is/should be less random than real life, mainly because of human emotion, as well as other factors. So who am I going to believe/side with....a rube like you, or a guy that knows?

An analyst at Nielsen, huh? Well now I'm for sure impressed. And he has a Masters?!?!?! Wow.

Everyone else just stop because if a "project analyst" at Nielsen with a Masters thinks so...the rest of us are just dumb by comparison. Because nothing screams "brilliance" like some junior butt-wiper at a second-rate marketing data firm.

I can't believe I'm about to say this but this justification did what I was previously convinced was unthinkable - lowered my perception of you.

I've changed my perspective on most important upgrades for HD: I NEEEEEEEEED a "block user" function.

Simply showing that I have intelligent people in my corner that backed my viewpoint. Whether you believe that person is real or not is irrelevant.

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010Simply showing that I have intelligent people in my corner that backed my viewpoint.  Whether you believe that person is real or not is irrelevant.

Is he playing HD, whats his user tag? Why isn't he on the forums ever, not even every week, but just once to back you up? If he created a game why aren't you guys playing that and trying to get that going instead of WIS and HD?

If he isn't playing HD than he truly can not know what he is talking about. Its like having a programmer having programmed his own security system for file security talking about the FBIs security and saying if it works or not without looking under the hood.

I don't need others to fight my battles for me, thus I'm not going to parade people that agree with me and my viewpoints in and out of here just for your guys' pleasure...I just wanted to make the point that there are people on my side of the fence as well, even if you aren't.

I'm having flashbacks to swamp's silent majority...

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010I don't need others to fight my battles for me, thus I'm not going to parade people that agree with me and my viewpoints in and out of here just for your guys' pleasure...I just wanted to make the point that there are people on my side of the fence as well, even if you aren't.

I have not seen anyone agree with you. And you've been in just about every topic lately.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010I don't need others to fight my battles for me, thus I'm not going to parade people that agree with me and my viewpoints in and out of here just for your guys' pleasure...I just wanted to make the point that there are people on my side of the fence as well, even if you aren't.

I have not seen anyone agree with you. And you've been in just about every topic lately.

Hence the reason we had to start talking about our 'buddy' who has a masters degree...

The guy does exist and his credentials are as I stated and he does agree with me...if you guys can't accept that/don't agree with me, then fine.

Some topics here I just don't understand how some of you guys can't see the logic in what I say...not digging at anyone but I don't get how you can't see how the sim and real life are rather/significantly different and that they should be....its really mind boggling.

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010The guy does exist and his credentials are as I stated and he does agree with me...if you guys can't accept that/don't agree with me, then fine.Some topics here I just don't understand how some of you guys can't see the logic in what I say...not digging at anyone but I don't get how you can't see how the sim and real life are rather/significantly different and that they should be....its really mind boggling.

It is rather quite mind boggling that you don't understand why we disagree with you.

I can understand wanting the game to operate like real life, but to not understand that human emotion makes real life a lot more random is what I don't get. By saying you want the game to operate like real life and justifying every random event because "it could happen in real life" leads to a false conclusion that your sim can never be wrong because, it could in fact happen in real life.

I don't want "extra" randomness in this game to simulate human emotion, ref biases, on and off nights, stadium climate, etc because that takes the game out of the players' hands, and who do we recruit and coach and what do we pay to play with...players. Regular randomness is enough...every game uses regular randomness.

Nobody said any of those things, you just think we mean that (which is part of the mind boggling-ness of you).

Nobody said that we want it to work 100% like real life, the fact is HD does need randomness, without it this game would be rather dull.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/17/2010
Nobody said any of those things, you just think we mean that (which is part of the mind boggling-ness of you).

Nobody said that we want it to work 100% like real life, the fact is HD does need randomness, without it this game would be rather dull.

Without randomness, you don't have a game period. Games can't run without randomness.

You keep implicitly suggesting that I'm saying that HD should have NO RANDOMNESS, and there couldn't be a more false statement