Pitching Affects Defense Topic

__________________Game 121____________________________National League W-L ( Points)

East Division
Not sure I thought this through well (Just4me) 71-50 (-60)
Rime of the Ancient Hurler . (JFranco77) 69-52 (+87) *
Dads Tigers 93 .. (Bud4875) 58-63 (-82)
Fielders (Johnnyd0303) 58-63 (-85)Central Division
Offended by offensitivity (mmiller989) 72-49 (+5) wc
Doppleganger '20 (seamar_116) 69-52 (-48)
Scratch & Claw (nhsteven) 65-56 (+35) *
Pentagon Farm Center (north of 49) 48-73 (+43)

Western Division
Don't be so defensive (winnetka1) 71-50 (-81) *
The unusual suspects ( 10_cents) 56-65 (-66)
Battleship Potemkin (whoscraig) 50-71 (-24)
Golden Gloves ( tegesta) 47-74 (-38)
____________________________________________________________AMERICAN LEAGUE

East Division

Astro Oddities (Alleyviper) 70-51 (+40) *
Death to rolling things (Gyroball) 66-55 (-29)
Modern Pitchers for the win (Msheaf1) 58-63 (-33)
take one for the team (Pinotfan) 49-72 (-1)Central Division
I find this offensivitive (redwingscup) 68-53 (-43) wc
Doppleganger '70 (seamar_116) 66-55 (+16) *
Leather Heroes ( tegesta) 56-65 (-9)
2010 Can't touch this ( ruperts) 52-69 (-39)

West Division
Birds Foil None (zubinsum) 62-59 (-23)
fits like a glove (unrulydog) 61-60 (+36) *
hand in glove (trenchfoot) 56-65 (+47)
P&D Kaos (uncleal) 54-67 (-112)

*=divisional leader by theme definition
WC= wild card leader
3/24/2010 10:24 AM
Interpreting theme rules as posted at the beginning of this thread.

We have two unusual situations. In one (NL West) we have one team over .500 but it has the worst point totals. In the other (AL West) we have a possibility of all 4 teams finishing below .500 (not the case currently, just a possibility).

In determining the playoff spots I read the rules and interpret them as follows:

In the NL West the teams that finished over .500 with the best point totals of those teams (finishing over .500) wins the division. The other teams compete for a wild card slot.

In the AL West if no team finishes over .500 they all compete for the division by the best points total.

If anyone interprets these outcomes differently I am not opposed to bringing in Biglenr to weigh in on this. I understand that by my interpretation my team stands to gain and I wouldn't want to create any misgivings or misunderstandings.
3/24/2010 10:48 AM
going forward I will continue to update of course but I will use one format or the other. The old format with point totals broken out or the new format with W-L (points). I'll do either but not enough time in my real life to do both.

Preferences?
3/24/2010 10:54 AM
winnetka...great job... I prefer the W/L format with points. I would interpret as you do. Highest point total of teams over .500 gets the division title and wild card goes to the best record regardless of point total.
3/24/2010 6:38 PM
What seamar said!
3/24/2010 7:50 PM
thanks guys, I'll continue with the W-L Pts updates. I like that look better too. Going into the playoff run it makes better sense.
3/24/2010 8:27 PM
In one other twist you might prepare for: would if there is a WC tie? Rather than go by head-to-head record, I would go with the fielding score, for the same reasoning you've expressed before.

To win a division, win PCT is the gating factor (.500), and the best field equation is the differentiator. I'm proposing essentially the same formula for the WC: win PCT is the gating factor (in this case, best PCT in league), and again the field equation be the differentiator.

You could reasonably choose head-to-head as the tie-break, but this doesn't seem as in keeping with the spirit of the league theme.
3/25/2010 5:39 AM
agreed mm...your thinking is absolutely correct
3/25/2010 8:10 AM

National League W-L ( Points)

East Division

Not sure I thought this through well (Just4me) 72-52 (-60)
Rime of the Ancient Hurler . (JFranco77) 69-55 (+86) *
Dads Tigers 93 .. (Bud4875) 61-63 (-85)
Fielders (Johnnyd0303) 60-64 (-89)Central Division
Offended by offensitivity (mmiller989) 74-50 (+2) wc
Doppleganger '20 (seamar_116) 71-53 (-48)
Scratch & Claw (nhsteven) 65-59 (+36) *
Pentagon Farm Center (north of 49) 50-74 (+46)

Western Division
Don't be so defensive (winnetka1) 72-52 (-80) *
The unusual suspects ( 10_cents) 58-66 (-68)
Battleship Potemkin (whoscraig) 51-73 (-23)
Golden Gloves ( tegesta) 49-75 (-39)
____________________________________________________________AMERICAN LEAGUE

East Division

Astro Oddities (Alleyviper) 72-52 (+43) *
Death to rolling things (Gyroball) 68-56 (-31)
Modern Pitchers for the win (Msheaf1) 59-65 (-33)
take one for the team (Pinotfan) 50-74 (+2)Central Division
I find this offensivitive (redwingscup) 69-55 (-49) wc
Doppleganger '70 (seamar_116) 67-57 (+23) *
Leather Heroes ( tegesta) 57-67 (-7)
2010 Can't touch this ( ruperts) 55-69 (-40)

West Division
Birds Foil None (zubinsum) 63-61 (-23)
fits like a glove (unrulydog) 62-62 (+30) *
hand in glove (trenchfoot) 59-65 (+48)
P&D Kaos (uncleal) 55-69 (-115)

*=divisional leader by theme definition
WC= wild card leader
3/25/2010 8:22 AM
National League W-L ( Points)

East Division

Not sure I thought this through well (Just4me) 74-53 (-64)
Rime of the Ancient Hurler . (JFranco77) 69-58 (+89) *
Dads Tigers 93 .. (Bud4875) 64-63 (-84)
Fielders (Johnnyd0303) 61-66 (-90)Central Division
Offended by offensitivity (mmiller989) 77-50 (-1) wc
Doppleganger '20 (seamar_116) 71-56 (-53)
Scratch & Claw (nhsteven) 67-60 (+37) *
Pentagon Farm Center (north of 49) 51-76 (+47)

Western Division
Don't be so defensive (winnetka1) 73-54 (-80) *
The unusual suspects ( 10_cents) 59-68 (-68)
Battleship Potemkin (whoscraig) 52-75 (-29)
Golden Gloves ( tegesta) 52-75 (-40)
____________________________________________________________AMERICAN LEAGUE

East Division

Astro Oddities (Alleyviper) 74-53 (+47) *
Death to rolling things (Gyroball) 70-57 (-27)wc
Modern Pitchers for the win (Msheaf1) 61-66 (-35)
take one for the team (Pinotfan) 51-76 (+3)Central Division
I find this offensivitive (redwingscup) 70-57 (-52) wc
Doppleganger '70 (seamar_116) 70-57 (+23) *
Leather Heroes ( tegesta) 58-69 (-5)
2010 Can't touch this ( ruperts) 56-71 (-43)

West Division
Birds Foil None (zubinsum) 64-63 (-24)
fits like a glove (unrulydog) 63-64 (+33) *
hand in glove (trenchfoot) 60-67 (+42)
P&D Kaos (uncleal) 57-70 (-116)

*=divisional leader by theme definition
WC= wild card leader

3/26/2010 8:26 AM
National League W-L ( Points)

East Division

Not sure I thought this through well (Just4me) 75-53 (-66)
Rime of the Ancient Hurler . (JFranco77) 69-59 (+89) *
Dads Tigers 93 .. (Bud4875) 65-63 (-87)
Fielders (Johnnyd0303) 61-67 (-91)Central Division
Offended by offensitivity (mmiller989) 78-50 (-2) wc
Doppleganger '20 (seamar_116) 71-57 (-55)
Scratch & Claw (nhsteven) 68-60 (+36) *
Pentagon Farm Center (north of 49) 52-76 (+46)

Western Division
Don't be so defensive (winnetka1) 73-55 (-80) *
The unusual suspects ( 10_cents) 59-69 (-68)
Battleship Potemkin (whoscraig) 52-76 (-29)
Golden Gloves ( tegesta) 53-75 (-40)
____________________________________________________________AMERICAN LEAGUE

East Division

Astro Oddities (Alleyviper) 75-53 (+48) *
Death to rolling things (Gyroball) 71-57 (-26)wc
Modern Pitchers for the win (Msheaf1) 62-66 (-35)
take one for the team (Pinotfan) 52-76 (+4)Central Division

Doppleganger '70 (seamar_116) 71-57 (+22) *
I
find this offensivitive (redwingscup) 70-58 (-52)
Leather Heroes ( tegesta) 58-70 (-3)
2010 Can't touch this ( ruperts) 56-72 (-44)

West Division
Birds Foil None (zubinsum) 64-64 (-24)
fits like a glove (unrulydog) 63-65 (+34) *
hand in glove (trenchfoot) 60-68 (+53)
P&D Kaos (uncleal) 58-70 (-117)

*=divisional leader by theme definition
WC= wild card leader
3/26/2010 1:58 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mmiller989 on 3/25/2010
In one other twist you might prepare for: would if there is a WC tie? Rather than go by head-to-head record, I would go with the fielding score, for the same reasoning you've expressed before.

To win a division, win PCT is the gating factor (.500), and the best field equation is the differentiator. I'm proposing essentially the same formula for the WC: win PCT is the gating factor (in this case, best PCT in league), and again the field equation be the differentiator.

You could reasonably choose head-to-head as the tie-break, but this doesn't seem as in keeping with the spirit of the league theme.
Not a member of the league, but as an outsider I agree. The theme was to create the best defensive team possible, with win pct (.500) being the gating factor. In all fairness, I think if there was a tie, the wild card team should be picked with the same formula.. on the other hand, the league was created with the rule being that the tiebreaker was head-to-head.

If you have a vote, obivously several teams will be biased based on their standing in the league. One solution would be to have the NL vote for the AL and vice versa.

If enough votes are passed, switch the formula for the WC spot, if not leave it.

Anyhow, there's my two cents.. good luck fellas.
3/26/2010 7:17 PM
exceprted from the theme rules:

"The wildcard team in each league will go to the team with the Most wins who isn't already selected as a divisionwinner. Tiebreakers will be the best score in the fielding equation, followed by H2H record, followed by most PLUS plays."

Good call Bornirish...this is exactly how the league rules had been set up from the beginning.
3/26/2010 9:38 PM
National League W-L ( Points)

East Division

Not sure I thought this through well (Just4me) 76-54 (-67)
Rime of the Ancient Hurler . (JFranco77) 71-59 (+87) *
Dads Tigers 93 .. (Bud4875) 66-64 (-89)
Fielders (Johnnyd0303) 63-67 (-93)Central Division
Offended by offensitivity (mmiller989) 78-52 (-5) wc
Doppleganger '20 (seamar_116) 73-57 (-58)
Scratch & Claw (nhsteven) 69-61 (+37) *
Pentagon Farm Center (north of 49) 53-77 (+48)

Western Division
Don't be so defensive (winnetka1) 73-57 (-81) *
The unusual suspects ( 10_cents) 61-69 (-67)
Golden Gloves ( tegesta) 53-77 (-41)
Battleship Potemkin (whoscraig) 52-78 (-27)

____________________________________________________________AMERICAN LEAGUE

East Division

Astro Oddities (Alleyviper) 77-53 (+51) *
Death to rolling things (Gyroball) 73-57 (-28)wc
Modern Pitchers for the win (Msheaf1) 64-66 (-33)
take one for the team (Pinotfan) 52-78 (+3)Central Division

Doppleganger '70 (seamar_116) 72-58 (+23) *
I
find this offensivitive (redwingscup) 72-58 (-54)
Leather Heroes ( tegesta) 58-72 (-5)
2010 Can't touch this ( ruperts) 57-73 (-45)

West Division
Birds Foil None (zubinsum) 65-65 (-24)*
fits like a glove (unrulydog) 64-66 (+34)
hand in glove (trenchfoot) 60-70 (+55)
P&D Kaos (uncleal) 58-72 (-122)

*=divisional leader by theme definition
WC= wild card leader
3/27/2010 8:13 AM
Wild Card Races

National League

Offended by offensitivity (mmiller989) 78-52 (-5)
Not sure I thought this through well (Just4me) 76-54 (-67
Doppleganger '20 (seamar_116) 73-57 (-58)

American League

Death to rolling things (Gyroball) 73-57 (-28)
Doppleganger '70 (seamar_116) 72-58 (+23) *
I
find this offensivitive (redwingscup) 72-58 (-54)

3/27/2010 8:20 AM
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