Savage II Commentary Thread Topic

Posted by ashamael on 8/26/2020 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 8/26/2020 8:56:00 PM (view original):
I shouldn't respond to that. I shouldn't write here, anymore. Nope. I'm out. See y'all at the starting line
You're right. You shouldn't. There's nothing to respond to. It's not about you; it's about everyone. It's to make everyone ask questions of themselves to improve as an owner.
Yes, I know that already, but you gave a pretty specific example & that was noticed.

I don't need confirmation on my decision, but I appreciate the unsolicited advice (about my comment) therein. Thanks
8/26/2020 9:15 PM (edited)
I feel like I know where I slipped up on this team, so here goes the eval. Last season I chased 5 season players, this year I wanted to focus on taking players with 1-3 really good seasons and fill out rest later. I got away from this too quick.

1) Shaq - When ash sent me the trade offer for Dwight, my only hesitancy around it was putting tarheel and ash in front of me in rounds 2 and 3. Rounds 2 and 3 feel so very important in this league and it scared me. But i like Shaq more, so I said f it. I won't be using the same seasons as kinoa, but 4 of them are the same

2) Whiteside - The issue with Shaq is usually finding the boards to go with him. I sold myself going into the draft that the 19-20 seasons would be available, so once I realized 3 starting seasons of Whiteside were available, he was the no brainer to myself

3) Draymond - I really wanted Kyrie here. I had already sold myself on some duplicates from kinoas teams, but then ash had to screw things up and go full on copycat. Knowing I was chasing the 19-20 seasons, I was going for Dame in the 4th. That had me originally looking at Ben Simmons here, but at the last moment I chose Draymond. I wasnt happy at first, but the simple boost in assists prevented me from chasing PGs I was not interested in later.

4) Dame - Once I took Shaq, I know I wanted an high usage guard. Looking through the 19-20 stats, I fell in love with Lillard. It was like a new scotch I had to taste.

5) Dumars - I was eyeing Dumars once I got Draymond. He seemed to be the perfect compliment to Dame. Maybe I overrate him, but this us back to back years I have taken him around this spot and there were many guards that went before him, that I would not have taken. He gives me 3s and good assists with 1 90 d season and 3 70 d seasons. His last 90 d season can be placed with a team that has enough 3s.

6) Jonas - After starting to develop teams, I was really enjoying the high efg PF pairing I had with Shaq. I needed 2 more seasons and the 19-20 Jonas season will fit one of those. He also has 4 other seasons that will fit in any of my teams. D sucks, but very happy with Jonas. Was ****** Ash took Bridges, that was my 7th round target.

7) McCollum- Messed this pick up. Once Bridges was gone, this was VCs spot, he has 2 starter worthy seasons and one of those is great to counter Draymonds TOs. Once he went, for some odd reason, I was looking for a backup for Shaq. Family was in town and my wife had given me the look multiple times of get off your phone. I wanted Javale, but once he was gone I took Arvydas. Thank god he was already taken. This would have been so many wasted minutes. Next I panicked because I held things up and I picked CJ. I was targeting CJ in the 8th to back up Lillard, and I think my mind was warped by their bubble run(even though CJ had some rough games). I shouldn't have targeted someone this early that I'm going to use as a backup 4 years. Fortunately with dumars/shaq/draymond, I can afford starting CJ one season and still run 67% ast with my SL. This pick ended up very important to my team because of players with shortened seasons. I should have taken

8) Cooper - After I took Dumars, I began targeting Cooper. Matches assists and has the defense. If the 70 d Dumar seasons are not enough starting defense, I can rotate. Almost gambled to see if I could wait until the 9th and find another SF with worthy starting seasons, but I decided to hold off for 2 more rounds.

9) Jarrett Allen - Another new scotch season. By this point I did not have a post season with less than 57 efg. I said let's let it ride and get another 60 efg to pair with Shaq. I can use his 18-19 season in spare minutes somewhere else. In the end, this was too early for Jarrett. I should have taken Sabonis Jr.

10) James Johnson - I do not like one Draymond season and JJ has 1 starter worthy season. Easy choice here. He has one other season I really liked, but who knew that partial 90 d 19-20 season was coming? Thought I was getting 1 starting season and 1 backup, now I'm getting 2.5 seasons out of him.

11) Richaun Holmes - Really surprised Holmes lasted this long. Was shooting for Cornbread this whole round, but Holmes fell and gives me 4 solid partial SF seasons. I'll be using 2.5

12) Dedmon - Had a couple of seasons that I still need 10+ minutes in the paint. Originally I was going Greg Monroe, but chased efg so none of my paint minutes have less than 55 efg. Dedmon has a couple of really useful seasons, I am blah on some teams he is playing on.

I really like 4 of my teams. 1 team has good %s across the board, but I'm realistic and I look at it and I say blah. I regret the CJ and Allen pick the most, no coincidence they both start on the blah team. Fortunately I can swap in Dames worst of the 5 seasons, still blah, and Jonas' high minute season, less blah, for Allen for boards. Shaq was fun to build with, I have never had the opportunity, but I know my oReb is lower than I would like and I know where my weaknesses are. My guard rebounding is an atrocity and maybe that's why Dumars falls, but still way too many guards went ahead of him where Dumars offers more. I still dont know why I was looking for a Shaq backup, I simply move the highest usage Whiteside/Jonas season as the backup. Hopefully it goes better than last season, but as ash pointed out in his post there is a reason why I run .500 to .530 in competitive leagues. Part of it is my lack of wanting to adjust lineups. Any who, this league has kept me on this site and dh I say thank you. I am already looking forward to selecting 6th next season and having the same people available to me rounds 2-5.
8/26/2020 9:49 PM (edited)
Posted by bds9992 on 8/26/2020 9:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ashamael on 8/26/2020 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 8/26/2020 8:56:00 PM (view original):
I shouldn't respond to that. I shouldn't write here, anymore. Nope. I'm out. See y'all at the starting line
You're right. You shouldn't. There's nothing to respond to. It's not about you; it's about everyone. It's to make everyone ask questions of themselves to improve as an owner.
Yes, I know that already, but you gave a pretty specific example & that was noticed.

I don't need confirmation on my decision, but I appreciate the unsolicited advice (about my comment) therein. Thanks
/shrug. That specific example is probably the answer to why people questioned various other things you stated earlier that you wondered about (like why people questioned the Cheeks pick, for example). It doesn't need further explanation from either side, really. You feel it's strong enough; others do not. Results will prove one side or the other correct.

I will say specifically in regards to you that you setting 110% crb as a baseline when there are several teams out here pushing 110% drb alone (150% crb) falls perfectly in line with the heart of the post, however. Despite that, I assure you that said statement was not the sole or even major inspiration for it. When I see things happening differently than I expect, I try to learn from them instead of trying to prove my own theory right. Actually, that's not even a theory; theories are supported by data. That's called a hypothesis Having a hypothesis is wonderful, as they lead to great things, but they are unsupported by data, and when you have data, and that data is telling you to try something different, but you stick to the hypothesis, well, you don't get very far. Thus, my team building strategy this season was very different from last year's, which reminded me of something I've noticed for over a decade, and therefore the post.

But yeah, if the shoe fits, lace that ***** up & wear it.
8/26/2020 9:50 PM
Looks like Brad entered his teams and we have all 24 in. DH asked me to run the division randomizer thing (just a simple 1-5) - I turned the normal 24hr clock off on the randomizer since this ain’t that deep.

Can one person click this link and post/verify that room 9820 HASNT been run yet. Once you post that, then I’ll run it, that way we have some proof that I ran it once and only once.

https://defuse.ca/trustedthirdparty.htm?drawingnum=9820
8/27/2020 12:17 PM
Oh wait I think we also need 1-24. Can someone also verify that this one (9821) hasn’t been run yet? I’ll do 1-24 with this one.

https://defuse.ca/trustedthirdparty.htm?drawingnum=9821
8/27/2020 12:19 PM
Posted by dBKC on 8/27/2020 12:17:00 PM (view original):
Looks like Brad entered his teams and we have all 24 in. DH asked me to run the division randomizer thing (just a simple 1-5) - I turned the normal 24hr clock off on the randomizer since this ain’t that deep.

Can one person click this link and post/verify that room 9820 HASNT been run yet. Once you post that, then I’ll run it, that way we have some proof that I ran it once and only once.

https://defuse.ca/trustedthirdparty.htm?drawingnum=9820
Verified. Has not been run yet.
8/27/2020 12:19 PM
Posted by dBKC on 8/27/2020 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Oh wait I think we also need 1-24. Can someone also verify that this one (9821) hasn’t been run yet? I’ll do 1-24 with this one.

https://defuse.ca/trustedthirdparty.htm?drawingnum=9821
We will use the draft order to assign who is 1,2,3, etc

numbers correspond as follows:

1. bds9992
2. gerryred (via dBKC)
3. dBKC (via gerryred)
4. dskantor
5. 24kpyrite (via ashamael via pexetera)
6. tarheel1991
7. ashamael (via 24kpyrite)
8. mikee1
9. goetz93
10. mptrey
11. amerk1180
12. pexetera (via ashamael via ysw128)
13. robusk
14. dh555
15. pharrop
16. cmcafeeky
17. albiband0
18. jcred5
19. jpevans31
20. benhoidal
21. 20ks
22. jhuskow
23. longtallbrad
24. ysw128 (via ashamael)

I’ll run this one after someone verifies this one too

ignore the (via __) part. ie: Gerry is 2
8/27/2020 12:22 PM
Posted by dBKC on 8/27/2020 12:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dBKC on 8/27/2020 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Oh wait I think we also need 1-24. Can someone also verify that this one (9821) hasn’t been run yet? I’ll do 1-24 with this one.

https://defuse.ca/trustedthirdparty.htm?drawingnum=9821
We will use the draft order to assign who is 1,2,3, etc

numbers correspond as follows:

1. bds9992
2. gerryred (via dBKC)
3. dBKC (via gerryred)
4. dskantor
5. 24kpyrite (via ashamael via pexetera)
6. tarheel1991
7. ashamael (via 24kpyrite)
8. mikee1
9. goetz93
10. mptrey
11. amerk1180
12. pexetera (via ashamael via ysw128)
13. robusk
14. dh555
15. pharrop
16. cmcafeeky
17. albiband0
18. jcred5
19. jpevans31
20. benhoidal
21. 20ks
22. jhuskow
23. longtallbrad
24. ysw128 (via ashamael)

I’ll run this one after someone verifies this one too

ignore the (via __) part. ie: Gerry is 2
Verified.
8/27/2020 12:30 PM
Alright the worlds are as follows:

4,2,5,1,3

I’ll wait to get the all-clear from DH to run the 1-24 part
8/27/2020 12:37 PM
I screwed up, y'all. I have 83 Cheeks in Worlds 1 and 2. I need to pull from World 1 and put 87 Cheeks in.

Sorry guys.
8/27/2020 1:06 PM
Posted by bds9992 on 8/27/2020 1:07:00 PM (view original):
I screwed up, y'all. I have 83 Cheeks in Worlds 1 and 2. I need to pull from World 1 and put 87 Cheeks in.

Sorry guys.
Shouldn’t be an issue if you get the ticket in. DH still has to build the 5 worlds after it goes through the randomizer
8/27/2020 1:10 PM
Okay, both randomizers have been run (info on previous page)

worlds: 4,2,5,1,3

owners:
1 amerk
2 cmcafeeky
3 jhsukow
4 ysw128
5 tarheel
6 jcred
7 goetz93
8 robusk
9 gerryred
10 dh555
11 ben
12 JPevans
13 pex
14 ash
15 bds
16 longtallbrad
17 pharrop
18 mikee
19 dskantor
20 20ks
21 dBKC
22 albi
23 mptrey
24 24k

kinda crazy that 20 became 20ks and 24 became 24k
8/27/2020 3:49 PM
ok...all rosters have been checked

bds and ltb have mistakes that admin will have to correct, but i feel good about them getting fixed before the first game...if not, they will have to rest illegal players

ill set up the divisions now...new division model from robusk is posted on page1 of the draft thread if youd like to verify my work
8/27/2020 4:44 PM
In two divisions with cmcafeeky...at least I’ll get to see first hand how my S2 team stacks up against my S1 team. I kid, I kid.
8/27/2020 5:25 PM
seems about the same as last time...this might be as good as it gets

i play 7 teams twice and 6 teams not at all...i think this is the same as everyone else

8/27/2020 5:30 PM
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