but thats not a conference you'd give an auto bcs bid to

they currently have a BCS bid, minus the 4 teams from the Big 12.

Maybe they'd get the winner of the MWC in the Cotton Bowl.

Quote: Originally posted by Iguana1 on 6/11/2010they currently have a BCS bid, minus the 4 teams from the Big 12.Maybe they'd get the winner of the MWC in  the Cotton Bowl.

That would make the Cotton Bowl people mad, this bowl was on the brink of being a BCS Bowl. Not that I care, I can't stand Texas, but I was starting to grow fond of this bowl.

I don't know, and I'm biased, but outside of UConn and Memphis on that core list, the football wouldn't be too bad, better than the MWC for sure. Now if you put those add-ins into the picture, only Notre Dame does the trick. Great basketball conference tho. Not sure that merging the remaining Big 12 with the cream of the MWC and CUSA and wouldn't be the best of all worlds for the remaining conference schools.

West: Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St., BYU, Boise St./Utah, TCU; Houston/Tulsa, Baylor

East: Missouri, Cinnicinati, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, Louisville; Memphis, USF

(semicolon for a 12 team conference)

If Missouri, 'Cuse and/or Rutgers go to the Big 10(16), then I'd actually pull in Northern Iowa (stellar football in the lower division and good basketball, might even take them over Baylor), West Virginia and Georgetown.

That there is a BCS bid conference that has some good basketball clout as well.

Quote: Originally posted by doomey on 6/12/2010I don't know, and I'm biased, but outside of UConn and Memphis on that core list, the football wouldn't be too bad, better than the MWC for sure. Now if you put those add-ins into the picture, only Notre Dame does the trick. Great basketball conference tho. Not sure that merging the remaining Big 12 with the cream of the MWC and CUSA and wouldn't be the best of all worlds for the remaining conference schools.West: Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St., BYU, Boise St./Utah, TCU, Houston/Tulsa, BaylorEast: Missouri, Memphis, Cinnicinati, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, Louisville, USFIf Missouri, 'Cuse and/or Rutgers go to the Big 10(16), then I'd actually pull in Northern Iowa (stellar football in the lower division and good basketball, might even take them over Baylor), West Virginia and Georgetown.That there is a BCS bid conference that has some good basketball clout as well.

Me being a Creighton basketball fan, I would not be happy if UNI got pulled out of the MVC and into a BCS conference. Honestly, I think there's about as much a chance of that happening as Miami going to the Pac ##. I understand that UNI is pretty successful in FCS, but that doesn't mean much, and until last year, they weren't in the top half of MVC basketball programs.

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Quote: Originally posted by doomey on 6/12/2010I don't know, and I'm biased, but outside of UConn and Memphis on that core list, the football wouldn't be too bad, better than the MWC for sure. Now if you put those add-ins into the picture, only Notre Dame does the trick. Great basketball conference tho. Not sure that merging the remaining Big 12 with the cream of the MWC and CUSA and wouldn't be the best of all worlds for the remaining conference schools.West: Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St., BYU, Boise St./Utah, TCU; Houston/Tulsa, BaylorEast: Missouri, Cinnicinati, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, Louisville; Memphis, USF(semicolon for a 12 team conference)If Missouri, 'Cuse and/or Rutgers go to the Big 10(16), then I'd actually pull in Northern Iowa (stellar football in the lower division and good basketball, might even take them over Baylor), West Virginia and Georgetown.That there is a BCS bid conference that has some good basketball clout as well.

Has to be a spot for UCF if your doing something like this, no? They have state of the art facilities, a huge following and rising programs. I think UCF should even be on the "new" ACC's radar if they were to invite say USF, and UCF.

I agree, gator. Cent. Florida could to go either the ACC or Big East

Quote: Originally posted by alblack56 on 6/12/2010I agree, gator.  Cent. Florida could to go either the ACC or Big East

It would be a really, really good get for either conference, IMO.

The UCF campus has the largest undergraduate enrollment in the country with about 43,000.

Although I don't know what that means as I think the Univeristy of Phoenix is close to a half million and I don't think their alumni base would be a draw for a tv network.

Quote: Originally posted by Iguana1 on 6/12/2010The UCF campus has the largest undergraduate enrollment in the country with about 43,000.  Although I don't know what that means as I think the Univeristy of Phoenix is close to a half million and I don't think their alumni base would be a draw for a tv network. 

UCF is huge, in Orlando, has brand new state of the art athletic facilities and is in a hot bed for athletes. They'll be on peoples radars.

Highlights from an ESPN.com report this evening:

...The Southeastern Conference, reportedly keen on adding Texas A&M would be just as interested in luring Texas and Oklahoma but doesn't see either as a realistic option....

...An SEC athletic director told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach that the SEC's first choice would be adding Texas, but might consider taking Texas A&M because it expands the league's footprint into the Dallas and Houston TV markets.



....Looking beyond the Big 12 for expansion, specifically to the ACC for schools such as Georgia Tech, Clemson, Florida State or Miami, was not in the SEC's plans, sources told ESPN.

....The sources saw no way the SEC would raid the ACC and added serious doubt that Virginia Tech could be pried away from Virginia.



...As for the Big 12, one plan on the table was to keep the 10 remaining Big 12 schools together and reposition the conference for the future.

Highlights from Sean Mellinger's column in the 'Kansas City Star':

The man who is supposed to be in charge is down to his last 48 hours of hope. That’s what it’s come to for Dan Beebe, Big 12 commissioner.

All he has is a desperate play to Texas, asking the country’s most powerful athletic department what it wants to keep the Big 12 together with faint hopes that the answer is not so extreme as to turn off the rest of the league.

Beebe had been the Big 12’s second in charge under Kevin Weiberg, who surprised everyone by leaving to start the Big Ten television network.

Privately, folks close to the situation say Weiberg realized he couldn’t manage Texas. This is where the conflict has always rested, starting from the Big 12’s beginning 14 years ago with a shotgun wedding between Texas demanding a bigger share of television money and old Big Eight schools that felt disrespected by it.

The Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC and even Big East have more history, cohesion, and commonalities. No conference dealt with such different cultures as Texas, Baylor, Colorado and Iowa State, and no conference concedes as much power and influence to one school as Texas.

In the end, Beebe’s best case to Texas may be telling the Longhorns they won’t be able to push another league around like they can the Big 12.

Texas demanding a larger share in reality was asking/dictating the conference to split 50% of the television revenues based on which teams were featured on those televised games.

Every Big 12 team got an equal share of the original 50% of the revenue but if Missouri's only televised games were two games on Fox Sports they would get a far smaller share of the remaining 50% than Texas/Oklahoma which may have been on ABC 7+ times.

This disparity resulted in Texas taking home a little over $3 million more than the lowest revenue earner, Baylor. In my opinion, if Texas had split the $900k difference between themselves and Kansas this guy would find something else to feel disrespected about.

The Big Ten is the only BCS conference that shares all TV revenues equally. The SEC allows schools to negotiate individual regional contracts. Florida has a $10 million contract with Fox/Sun Sports which it doesn't have to share with other SEC schools. Another example is Memphis, which takes home about half of the basketball revenues from C-USA.

The Big 12 is trying to convince the remaining teams to stay. Texas is rumored to be thinking about it.