11) mikee1 - Magic Johnson, Carlos Boozer, Marques Johnson, Sam Dalembert, Michael Redd, Landsberger, A. Sabonis 

Boy, that's a lot of post players. You should definitely have a good rebounding squad when you add in good backcourt rebounders. Who's filling the rest of the minutes at the 1/2/3? As far as I can tell you only have Magic, Marques, and Redd for those three positions, which would leave you like 3000 minutes to fill with undrafted players. Maybe you're using one of the Lansberger seasons that's almost 100% at SF, but you're still short. You could use some more threes off the bench in those minutes, I think. Post defense is gonna keep you from being too good, only Dalembert is over 50 I think. You've got a lot of boards, and some good scorers, but I don't think there's a playoff team here.

 12) scudmissle - David Robinson, Jerry Lucas, Larry Nance, Walt Frazier, Fat Lever, Tim Legler, Jeff Foster

Your first four picks were so good. Frazier was the perfect fit for your squad, after that dominant frontcourt. But Lever, I just didn't understand. You could have used Frazier at PG with one of his higher assist seasons (probably the 54% efg one) and you didn't need all the rebounding and assists Lever brings. You could have gone lower on assists and rebounds, and gotten a more efficient guy who shoots threes. Instead you get a guy who does some good things (boards, assists, defense, steals) but balances it out with bad (bad efficiency, no threes). And then you draft 2 super low usage guys for the bench, meaning that whenever the Admiral is on the bench you'll be hurting for usage. The first four picks alone may be good enough for the playoffs - and after robocoach's Jamison team in the ODL, I'm wary of thinking one bad efficiency pick can tank a team - but I can't see this team going past the first round despite some definite positives. Second round with the right playoff matchup, maybe.

 13) malone - Bill Russell, Deron Williams, Brent Barry, Jason Richardson, Chris Webber, C. Anderson, Rashard Lewis

I want to like this team, and I mostly do. It seems like a fun offensive team - lots of efficient scorers, with tons of threes, plenty of assists to keep the juices flowing. But the rebounding is pretty weak, even with Russell around. He's not going to get you 24 a game, and almost the whole rest of the team is average or below average for their position. Your team has similar defensive concerns to mine - no real dominant defender in the backcourt, no real defensive liabilities but not many shutdown guys either. I think this can be a playoff team solely on the strength of offensive play - maybe even make some noise in the playoffs. But not sure if a team with rebounding this weak can make a real deep playoff run. Unfortunately, my rebounding is kinda weak too - this team reminds me a lot of my own team, except yours has more threes and mine is more efficient overall. Hopefully that efficiency is enough to put me over the top ;)

 14) dh555 - Dwayne Wade, Donyell Marshall, Shawn Kemp, Nate Thurmond, Jerry West, Tree Rollins, Terry Tyler

Well, this team is tough for me to evaluate, because all I ever do is play uptempo. I don't even know how to build a good halfcourt team, really. My instinct is that this isn't the best way - I would think you would want a team that is very efficient already and doesn't need a boost from assists or tempo. DWade can flourish in uptempo systems, not sure he should be the guy to build a halfcourt team around. Marshall is a great, flexible piece on any team, and Kemp IS a guy who can be that super-efficient scorer. Obviously the defense is exceptional. This team's progress will be fun to track, cause it's so different than what most people try to do (although it still looks to be a great rebounding team, which is of course important in this SIM), kinda like appleseed's team in the last 42 mil ODL that had crazy rebounds and terrible efficiency. I don't think it makes the playoffs, but I think it will play a lot of 99-94 games that infuriates those of us who are trying to pad our team's stats. Good luck, always fun when people explore new team concepts.

 15) katernberg  - Hakeem Olajuwon, Paul Pierce, Willis Reed, Josh Smith, Charlie Ward, Paul Millsap, David Wesley  

Pierce is a guy I used to love, haven't used much lately, and clearly I need to start using again, cause people are having great success with him. Olajuwon can be a monster in the right situation. Reed is a classic SIM underperformer, looks great on paper but never seems to match it. On paper, this team looks very good to me. The starting lineup all plays great defense. There's plenty of free throws. The efficiency isn't great, but not bad either, and there's enough assists to make it a little better. Fouls are certainly pretty high, maybe turnovers too. My only concern is that Olajuwon and Reed never seem to do as well as they should. This looks like, on paper, a 1st or 2nd round playoff team to me. We'll see how it works out.

 16) captainzen - Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Bill Walton, Don Buse, Chris Bosh, Rudy Fernandez, Ken Sears

There are some good things here, but also some flaws. 4 of 7 players have a defense under 50 (at least the other 3 are all 80+). Not much offensive rebounding to speak of. The first three picks were good, but Buse is pretty "meh" in a 52 mil league - he just doesn't bring enough to the table. Bosh is not the best backup big man for this team, although his 09-10 season is pretty good - I think you needed someone with more offensive rebounding. But I guess you needed usage after that Buse pick. Sears is nothing special except for his FTA, and given his era he won't come anywhere near matching his RL totals. Maybe enough offense to get to the playoffs, maybe not. Depends on the division you're in.

 17) 98average2 - Shaquille O'Neal, Elton Brand, Mookie Blaylock, Bill Bridges, Nate McMillian, Jamario Moon, A. Bynum

Shaq is a beast. Brand is a great 3 man. Blaylock I like better in 47 mil, but he still works here. Your next three picks after that are all sub-15 percent usage. Not sure Shaq and Brand can carry the scoring load on their own in this league, you may be short on usage (ask ash - he's the usage guru). Some things to like here, some things to dislike. Your rebounding is pretty average, even with Brand, cause the Shaq/Bridges/Bynum combo is probably below average for the 4/5 (depends on which Bridges and Shaq, I suppose). This feels like a 1st round playoff team to me.

 18) ashamael - Karl Malone, Chanucey Billups, Tom Boerwinkle, Charlie Edge, Dan Majerle, Jon Barry, Chris Gatling

Not much point in analyzing or questioning, cause everything you do seems to work. Plus you've only drafted like 80% of the team. Malone is a great player to build around at this cap. I think Chauncey loses some value going from 47 to 52 mil, but he should be fine - good efficiency and low negatives. Boerwinkle and Edge are good part-time specialists. I think you could have done better than Majerle, but I guess he won't hurt you. Lower on usage than I would usually like, but you've done the math and know it better than anybody. I don't think this looks like a classic dominant ash team to me, but I'm sure it will be a contender.

well, i've got 400-3's on this squad... so, i don't know what you're talking about (as usual) and as far as usage goes when drob is on the bench... that's what depth charts are for... thanks anyway for the eval. and i think you're way off the mark about sixer's team. one of the 3 teams to beat in this league.  

The team you posted on the last page has 229 3PM in 18600 minutes. At the bottom of that post you suggested that your reserves, whoever they may be, bring your team up to 367 in 19900 minutes. If you suddenly have 400 3PM, then you've changed your team from the one you posted, and it's hard for me to judge if you're showing me a different team than the one you drafted.

In any case, you are more than welcome to ignore everything I say (as I say I'm bad at evals) and more than welcome to keep finishing behind me in this league and the ODL, as well.

;)

I'm so happy that you are saving the best for last tarheel!

1) mikee1 -Magic Johnson, Carlos Boozer, Marques Johnson, Sam Dalembert, Michael Redd, Landsberger, A. Sabonis Boy, that's a lot of post players. You should definitely have a good rebounding squad when you add in good backcourt rebounders. Who's filling the rest of the minutes at the 1/2/3? As far as I can tell you only have Magic, Marques, and Redd for those three positions, which would leave you like 3000 minutes to fill with undrafted players. Maybe you're using one of the Lansberger seasons that's almost 100% at SF, but you're still short. You could use some more threes off the bench in those minutes, I think. Post defense is gonna keep you from being too good, only Dalembert is over 50 I think. You've got a lot of boards, and some good scorers, but I don't think there's a playoff team here.

Defense is my biggest weakness. I've addressed threes and I think I'm looking good with over 600 made. Pretty deep team so there are really no garbage minutes, issue is that I drafted a team better fit for the ODL! Hopefully rebounding and efficient scoring can outpace my opponents. We'll see. I predict playoffs but another first round exit, only if I get lucky in my division though.

19) vancem - Artis Gilmore, Scottie Pippen, Tyson Chandler, Derek Harper, Mark Price, Detlef Schrempf, David Lee

This is a very well balanced team, but is it exceptional enough to win a title? Chandler and Gilmore are a great frontcourt, Lee a serviceable backup. Pippen and Schrempf is a very nice  combo on the wings, they bring plenty of assists/rebounds along with good efficiency. Harper's main weakness is rebounding, but that's OK given your good rebounding elsewhere. Defense isn't great, but should be adequate at least. The big question will be, can this team succeed with Pippen as the top dog? I think so, despite the less-than-ideal FTA for a top scorer. This team should have the offensive punch to make it to the late rounds of the playoffs. Maybe a tad light on usage, but should be OK. Great offensive rebounding, solid def. rebounding. Unless defense hurts you, this should be a division winner.

 20) empdenied - Kobe Bryant, Marcus Camby, Dave Cowens, Cedric Maxwell, Dan Gadzuric, Darrell Armstrong, C. Ceballos

Already expressed how much I dislike Kobe as a 1st rounder in a 52 mil. Cowens is underwhelming at this cap - depending on the season, he's either a weak rebounder, an efficiency drain, or both. Can play defense though. Cornbread eases the rebounding concerns, and brings plenty of efficiency - that was a good pick. Gadzuric is a good backup post, Ceballos a good backup wing. Armstrong isn't a great PG at this cap, but at least brings the dimes, threes, and won't kill you offensively. Overall though, I'm not a huge fan. This team can play defense, but the offense will go as Kobe goes, which is to say it will be inconsistent. 35-40 wins.

 21) jayharvill - Tim Duncan, John Stockton, Emeka Okafor, Reggie Miller, Antonio McDyess, Paul Pressey, Connie Hawkins

Had a Duncan/Stockton team myself a couple years ago in the ODL, and I think it was a first round playoff exit. I think that's the ceiling for this team. There's definitely some things to like on offense - Timmy can be a good focal point, Stockton keeps everything running smoothly, and Reggie is Reggie. Okafor is a solid 2nd big. McDyess works OK as a backup scorer, but his rebounding is pretty weak. There's some things to like here, but my enthusiasm was dampened upon seeing which seasons you're using. I think there's at least one mistake there. Your team as built on page 7 has more assists than you need, and not nearly enough rebounds. You're short on threes. You're short on usage. You're at 17500 minutes with 8 million left to spend - not a good sign. You may decide to change your team around from what you've posted, and if you do maybe it improves some. But the team you posted is, IMO, probably not a playoff team, despite the good efficiency. Too many holes.

 22) tarheel - Ben Wallace, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, Terry Porter, Joakim Noah, David Thompson, Stephen Curry

Well, of course I mostly like my own team. Think it has as good a shot as any to win (and I see this as a pretty wide-open league - don't see any team I would label a true favorite). It's the most efficient offensive team in the league, IMO (of course I'm biased). Every starter besides Wallace checks in at over 53% efg, and three are over 56%. Thompson and Amare are the go-to scorers, and both shoot lots of FT at good percentage - I like that. Curry and Noah off the bench bring some more solid efficiency, but more fouls than I would like. The potential weaknesses: not a ton of threes (although I think undrafted guys will help with that), rebounding is average (maybe even a little below average), perimeter defense is a concern (no defender over 73 defense), and no true SF (no drafted player is 100% at SF - Marion will start there, at 98%, but it definitely hurts my flexibility). Also more fouls than I would like. But overall I think this team has the potential to be an offensive juggernaut, and should produce some fun boxscores no matter what.

 23) logain - Kevin Love, Jason Kidd, Grant Hill, Kris Humphries, Peja Stojakovic, Pau Gasol, A.C. Green,

Well, the defensive rebounding on this team is pretty absurd, I'll give you that. Dominant rebounding goes a long way, but not sure that's enough to make this a really successful team. This team is gonna allow a ton of points. Malone built a team around Love last season that finished around .500, and that one was more efficient than this one. The problem with Love is finding good post defenders later, and while Humphries and Gasol are both really good picks they don't address the defensive concern. Stojakovic brings the efficient scoring you needed pretty badly after picking Hill, but it comes at a defensive cost. Kidd is the only guy on the team 100% at both PG and SG, and while Hill and Stojakovic are close enough to play those positions I think backcourt flexibility is an issue for you. In sum: great rebounding, average efficiency, suspect defense adds up to 40 wins or so.

 24) jethroeg - Julius Erving, Oscar Robertson, Wes Unseld, Blake Griffin, Alvin Robertson, Dick Snyder, Greg Kite

I love Erving on paper, and keep meaning to try to build a team around him. People have definitely struggled trying to use him before - maybe you can break the chain. But I don't think this is a successful team. You have basically no threes, which is mostly a given after an Erving/Robertson start that was made even worse b confusing picks like Robertson and Snyder. Your perimeter D is excellent, but your post D is atrocious. You have a ton of rebounds, but I think your offense will struggle (especially when everyone goes -3 against you). I just don't think this team works at all, even with the right Erving and Big O picks. 30 (ugly) wins.

2) jweb - Michael Jordan, Bob Lanier, Gerald Wallace, Maurice Cheeks, Clifford Ray, Dennis Scott, Jayson Williams

I'm cautiously optimistic about this team, although there's some things I don't like. Jordan is a great start, Lanier and Wallace good complements. Cheeks, I think you could have done better with that pick - you didn't need quite that many assists, or the 90 defense. I would have gone with fewer assists, more threes (Eddie Jones comes to mind - maybe someone with more dimes than him, though) and/or rebounding with that pick. The rest of the rotation have their uses - Ray brings great rebounding, Scott much-needed threes, Williams offensive boards. There's not a glaring weakness here (maybe threes?), but I'm not sure if there's a glaring strength either (rebounding pretty good though). I think at the very least this is a middle-of-the-road team, good chance at the playoffs.

   3) jakotay - Wilt Chamberlain, Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobili, Kevin Johnson, Mike Miller, Dana Barros, Edgar Jones

What a great, great start - first three picks were amazing. From there I think you didn't do so well, although there are some things to like. The Kevin Johnson pick is just baffling to me. You set yourself up perfectly to build around what is IMO the best Wilt, 66-67. You get two pretty high usage guys (Nowitzki and Ginobili) who are also pretty efficient to play the 4 and the point. You have like 45% assists at this point, so you only need 15%-20% more, at most, from the 2 and the 3. What do you need at this point? Rebounds, some mid-low level usage, and preferably as efficient as possible. So you grab...Johnson? A point guard, moving Ginobili to the 2, and immediately flooding your team with unneeded assists, while ignoring the rebounding you did kind of need. At least Johnson is an efficient scorer, but besides that you basically ignored actual team needs. You follow that up by drafting Mike Miller, who was the PERFECT shooting guard for this team, except you're playing him at SF. Well, now you definitely need rebounds and maybe some defense and certainly not assists so you take...Dana Barros? And an average-rebounding foul monster like Edgar Jones? So confusing. In the end, there's a still a lot to like about this team - it will certainly be very, very efficient on offense. Right there with my team in terms of sheer firepower. But you have defensive holes all over the backcourt, and your rebounding is suspect. This team will force people to go +2 or +3, which could help the rebounding effort. I still think this is a playoff team. It will win a lot of games with scores like 138-133. But you were one pick away from a phenomenal team, and I think picking KJ could have cost you a championship.

  6) ncih - Dwight Howard, Swen Nater, Steve Nash, Nick Anderson, Chris Mullin, Eddie House, Kurt Thomas,

Wow - another crazy efficient offensive team that is built like a sieve defensively. Offensively I'm not sure there's any room to criticize this team. Howard is a great cornerstone, Nater brings huge boards as well, Nash is the floor general. Mullin/Anderson is a great wing combo. Your team can score on anybody. But the defense...could be an issue. After Howard there's no great defender. Your choice of Anderson season could help here, but only so much. Teams with great PG scorers will shred you, cause only Nash can guard the point on your squad. Looks like you've still got a couple thousand minutes to play around with, so maybe you can add some defensive help. If the defensive concerns are overblown, this is a great team. I think this is a playoff team, how far it goes depends on defense.

 23) logain - Kevin Love, Jason Kidd, Grant Hill, Kris Humphries, Peja Stojakovic, Pau Gasol, A.C. Green,

Well, the defensive rebounding on this team is pretty absurd, I'll give you that. Dominant rebounding goes a long way, but not sure that's enough to make this a really successful team. This team is gonna allow a ton of points. Malone built a team around Love last season that finished around .500, and that one was more efficient than this one. The problem with Love is finding good post defenders later, and while Humphries and Gasol are both really good picks they don't address the defensive concern. Stojakovic brings the efficient scoring you needed pretty badly after picking Hill, but it comes at a defensive cost. Kidd is the only guy on the team 100% at both PG and SG, and while Hill and Stojakovic are close enough to play those positions I think backcourt flexibility is an issue for you. In sum: great rebounding, average efficiency, suspect defense adds up to 40 wins or so.


I don't disagree with you. I do not love my team either. I think all of my picks were pretty decent players for where I picked but I don't really like the mesh. I will have entertaining box scores though. And maybe an overlooked part of the team is very low to's and fouls but I don't think its going to make up for the defense. For alot of the draft I had actually planned on using my ton of extra cash to grab a defensive stud to play 4/5.. I had enough to get someone like Elvin Hayes or Patrick Ewing.. but in the end I decided to just test once and for all how much I need defense. I know my first time out in a draft league I drafted 80+ defenders at every spot.. and was terrible but I think that was because I tried to do it at 47 mil and had no bench at all. 

I think your guess of 40 wins is maybe a little generous, I am predicting 30-35.

I have realized that Kevin Love gets nowhere close to what you want out of him.  He does alright scoring and rebounding, but is never a dominating rebounder.  It is somewhat baffling with him like it is with many players in the sim.  I have had Love on a ton of teams already, and while I won a chip with him it seemed like he was underwhelming even on that team.  Kevin Love statistically (as the sim reacts) should be a top 20 player, but I feel there are players in the third round that give you more of what you need.

Not a critique against you Logain, just another rant against the sim.

yeah none taken, I haven't used him before, I took him partially because you had taken him so high last time.. and ash had defended the pick at the time. I think in the end I would rather have had someone that is either much more efficient or stronger defensively, but we will see how it works out in the league. He's probably the number 3 scorer on the team.. and I need him to be my #1 rebounder.

i had love in the last odl and he was amazing for me...i forget the exact numbers but he was something like 22/12 and was in the the top 25 in fts made....the team did very well too...i think it helped that i paired him with lanier so he could help hide him on defense....hes such an advantage in winning the ft battle...that may be his biggest strength

hes an absolute stud in the odl and should go late 1st/early 2nd every time imo.....ncih52 is definitely different though...not sure where he should go in this draft

Certainly a fair assessment of my team.  Backcourt D is outstanding (90/90/90 from the 3 starters), and post D is good enough (65/84).  O-Reb is a weakness, as are the 3's.  I like the overall eFG% but fear it's not high enough for this league.  "Middle of the road" is a good way to summarize this team, which even still is an improvement over the .333 egg I laid last season.

Pretty good eval of my team tarheel

I was literally one pick away in three straight rounds from getting a heckuva trio that would have been tough to stop....I agree not enough boards.   Curious what big mistake you are talking about...most of my guys' seasons I chose were pretty cut and dry.   Maybe you'll sitemail me after the season starts and let me know which one  LOL

I  agree concerning my team's offensive chances and the lack of overall great defense that might be a playoff killer. I figured that I should go for offense in the last round and was a bit lucky that Lee was still available and I'll use the 60% EFG season for 21 mpg and around 40% CREB to back up Chandler. Price seemed like a perfect fit and I'll use the 9293 season that ash used last time. I'm also going to go with the 8586 version of Harper as the advanced numbers are better than his most expensive season and the defense is still 80. I couldn't find another SF in round 6 other than Schrempf that made over 50% on 3s. Plus, I liked the fact that Detlef shoots over 50% on 2s and has 56% EFG.

IMO owners that play PFs at the SF position make a mistake in that the majority  of those players are inside mostly and make it much easier to defend. Offensive spacing is something that isn't talked about because there are no hard numbers to go by, but I really believe that playing 3 players on offense that all are mostly mid range and inside hurts a team offensively. I mean how many times in this league have we seen the Dennis Rodman at SF and Spencer Haywood at at PF fail terribly? I've never seen a team win this league with a player like Rodman or Horace Grant at SF. 

Well, my backup for Bullwinkle was Bynum, so I have to change that.  Other than that, not much to do having just got home after a 7+ hour drive home.  Team will be entered shortly.

re:  Majerle... I wanted some offensive boards, threes, 5th tier or lower usage, low tov%, low fouls & 60+ defense.  There were guys that fit most of that, but Thunder was my top choice.  I also had the option with him of using a lower-minute version if I wanted to draft someone different in round 6 and have a nice platoon there, but I think I'll stick with the 92-93 minute version's 80 defense.

re:  usage... I have a tier 1 & a tier 3 in my SL.  Also a tier 4 with two tier 5s.  That's 16 usage points.  Just how many do you think is enough?