"Eating a contract" Topic

timf
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Mike I love how you fail to recognize the point and go off on your own ramblings. isack got it exactly right and you missed the point completely, as I expected you would. Thanks for not letting me down.

10/28/2010 10:58 AM
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Anyway, if you're content with getting nothing in return, don't bother with the trade.   Just waive him.   As one of you put it, there's nothing anyone can do about that.
10/28/2010 10:58 AM
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Why trade if you don't want anything in return?  That sounds like collusion.
10/28/2010 10:59 AM
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Not all mistakes are made by the current owner. You can't fault a guy for mistakes by the previous owner. Once again, you miss the point. That's two in a row for you, keep up the good work.

10/28/2010 10:59 AM
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Now you're assuming that this person acquired the player as opposed to picking up a new team and being saddled with him.

And of course there is a difference, but just because it makes it more difficult for you to win doesn't mean you should veto.  Like I said, just about every trade probably falls under that category, so you're just drawing an arbitrary line on how much it helps a team you're competing with.  Whatever, we're never going to agree, so this whole thing is pointless.
10/28/2010 10:59 AM
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Nobody said they didn't want anything in return. What was said is that they tried to get something in return but couldn't because it was vetoed. The next best option was waiving the guy. Keep missing the points, you're on a roll.
10/28/2010 11:01 AM
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Didn't you pick your new team?  Did you not know who you were "saddled" with?   If you don't do your homework, don't cry to me.

I've already said "Get a marginal BL player and not from a n00b" and I won't bother to veto.   You two are arguing "It's my team.  I should be able to do what I want".  And I'm telling you "If it's bad for the world, I don't give a rat's *** about what you want."
10/28/2010 11:02 AM
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isack I'm very glad you are able to follow, it just adds to the fact that MikeT in fact does not know what he is talking about.
10/28/2010 11:03 AM
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tim, you suck at this game in weak worlds.    Your points are largely invalid.   
10/28/2010 11:03 AM
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10/28/2010 11:03 AM
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Of course, that sterling .457 probably comes from the fact that you are in such a hurry to rid yourself of good players that you never get anything in return.

Keep up the good work.
10/28/2010 11:04 AM
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Posted by timf on 10/28/2010 11:03:00 AM (view original):
isack I'm very glad you are able to follow, it just adds to the fact that MikeT in fact does not know what he is talking about.
I think he knows exactly what he's talking about. 

It comes down to this: he is going to do what he wants, which he has the right to do.  He's going to veto trades if he thinks it makes another team too strong, or if he simply feels like it.  I don't like that attitude, but I don't play in the same worlds, so I don't really care, and there's nothing I can do about it anyway.

The annoying thing is that he is attempting to justify it by pretending like it's in everyone's best interests that he take on this guardian role.  Most, if not all of the points he's made goto that end have been logically flawed.

If he would have just said, "I'm going to do what I want because I can," this would have been over a long time ago.
10/28/2010 11:08 AM
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Yeah that's right Mike. The first thing you've gotten right. My record is in fact what you posted. The reason I'm winning every division I'm currently in is because I rid myself of all my good players and get nothing in return. Maybe next time you will do some homework.
10/28/2010 11:09 AM
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Actually isack, that is more right than anything said so far. Perfectly said. But we all know that is not MikeT. He has to argue and beat his chest about everything.
10/28/2010 11:10 AM
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Posted by isack24 on 10/28/2010 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by timf on 10/28/2010 11:03:00 AM (view original):
isack I'm very glad you are able to follow, it just adds to the fact that MikeT in fact does not know what he is talking about.
I think he knows exactly what he's talking about. 

It comes down to this: he is going to do what he wants, which he has the right to do.  He's going to veto trades if he thinks it makes another team too strong, or if he simply feels like it.  I don't like that attitude, but I don't play in the same worlds, so I don't really care, and there's nothing I can do about it anyway.

The annoying thing is that he is attempting to justify it by pretending like it's in everyone's best interests that he take on this guardian role.  Most, if not all of the points he's made goto that end have been logically flawed.

If he would have just said, "I'm going to do what I want because I can," this would have been over a long time ago.
Wrong.

I hardly ever veto.  I'll repeat this again for you since it doesn't seem to have stuck.

Get something in return besides "cap space".   Get a defensive SS, a decent 2B who can steal bases, a power hitter with poor splits.   Just a player who could be added to a playoff roster as a 25th man.  A specialty player.   I don't think that's too much to ask.

The only other deals I'll veto is one between a good, experienced owner and a n00b/unsuccessful owner where the n00b is getting screwed. 

Something for nothing for deals are stupid. 
10/28/2010 11:13 AM
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