Posted by steelers821 on 8/10/2023 8:22:00 PM (view original):
The strength of my teams right now looks like a really low tov and fp48. Not sure how to feel about that normally I just disregard both.

This is definitely not the league to disregard those things in.

Well all my teams are currently at a weighted 3.3 fp48 or lower (last season my best fp48 was 3.6 lmao) and my highest weighted tov is 12.7 with teams under 12(last season my best tov was 13.8)

cotton candy sweetie go
let me see that chewy score
to the left
to the right

Pat Bev was the guy I was debating taking instead of De'Aaron. I definitely should have, but I was worried about painting myself into two corners with only one pick left to fix it. I would have been fine. Oh well. De'Aaron will see maybe 3k minutes anyway so not a huge deal.

Also: I've discovered the power of Tmac. Holy ****, was I sleeping on this guy. I wanted Kobe in round 4 (thanks, Rob), and he would have been quite a bit better, but getting Tmac where I did is amazing. His shooting is frightening, but with Chuck, Worm, and the slew of 60%+ efg guys surrounding him, it's okay.

Consider my enthusiasm for these teams officially re-ignited.

Posted by ashamael on 8/11/2023 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Pat Bev was the guy I was debating taking instead of De'Aaron. I definitely should have, but I was worried about painting myself into two corners with only one pick left to fix it. I would have been fine. Oh well. De'Aaron will see maybe 3k minutes anyway so not a huge deal.

Also: I've discovered the power of Tmac. Holy ****, was I sleeping on this guy. I wanted Kobe in round 4 (thanks, Rob), and he would have been quite a bit better, but getting Tmac where I did is amazing. His shooting is frightening, but with Chuck, Worm, and the slew of 60%+ efg guys surrounding him, it's okay.

Consider my enthusiasm for these teams officially re-ignited.

I feel the same way about Vince. He’s definitely going to make team building easier for me. He might have lowish eFG, but he’s a low TO guy who is a decent passer, defender, and 3pt shooter, who isn’t horrible at anything. I was sleeping on him too.

Posted by dBKC on 8/11/2023 4:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ashamael on 8/11/2023 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Pat Bev was the guy I was debating taking instead of De'Aaron. I definitely should have, but I was worried about painting myself into two corners with only one pick left to fix it. I would have been fine. Oh well. De'Aaron will see maybe 3k minutes anyway so not a huge deal.

Also: I've discovered the power of Tmac. Holy ****, was I sleeping on this guy. I wanted Kobe in round 4 (thanks, Rob), and he would have been quite a bit better, but getting Tmac where I did is amazing. His shooting is frightening, but with Chuck, Worm, and the slew of 60%+ efg guys surrounding him, it's okay.

Consider my enthusiasm for these teams officially re-ignited.

I feel the same way about Vince. He’s definitely going to make team building easier for me. He might have lowish eFG, but he’s a low TO guy who is a decent passer, defender, and 3pt shooter, who isn’t horrible at anything. I was sleeping on him too.

Both of them robusk staples. Definitely two of my very favorite players in Savage.

Posted by robusk on 8/11/2023 4:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dBKC on 8/11/2023 4:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ashamael on 8/11/2023 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Pat Bev was the guy I was debating taking instead of De'Aaron. I definitely should have, but I was worried about painting myself into two corners with only one pick left to fix it. I would have been fine. Oh well. De'Aaron will see maybe 3k minutes anyway so not a huge deal.

Also: I've discovered the power of Tmac. Holy ****, was I sleeping on this guy. I wanted Kobe in round 4 (thanks, Rob), and he would have been quite a bit better, but getting Tmac where I did is amazing. His shooting is frightening, but with Chuck, Worm, and the slew of 60%+ efg guys surrounding him, it's okay.

Consider my enthusiasm for these teams officially re-ignited.

I feel the same way about Vince. He’s definitely going to make team building easier for me. He might have lowish eFG, but he’s a low TO guy who is a decent passer, defender, and 3pt shooter, who isn’t horrible at anything. I was sleeping on him too.

Both of them robusk staples. Definitely two of my very favorite players in Savage.

Yeah, I love Vince and have used him at least once, maybe twice in this thing. I meant to grab him several other times, but you did it first. I've always like Vince more than Tmac, but Tmac's best three seasons are fantastic. Two of them REALLY low on threes, though.

Current build (haven't drafted a 12th player yet + lots of tweaking yet to do):

Name	Usg	efg%	TS%	ast%	tov%	orb%	drb%	crb%	stl%	blk%	def	3pm		fouled%
T1 Starter Totals	101.3	55.3	60.3	72.1	13.3	51.5	101.7	153.2	7.6	8.6	77.2	265		12.4
T2 Starter Totals	102.4	55.6	59.5	77.2	14.8	48.2	99	147.2	9.5	8.4	75.6	322		11.9
T3 Starter Totals	109	55.2	59.7	71.8	13.4	45.7	94.9	140.6	8.3	8.8	74	327		11.4
T4 Starter Totals	103.1	55.4	57.8	71.1	14.6	45.7	100.8	146.5	7.3	6	71.6	362		13.1
T5 Starter Totals	104.6	54.7	57.6	78.2	15.7	50.7	101.9	152.6	7.7	7.8	70.8	385		10.9
Name	Usg	efg%	TS%	ast%	tov%	orb%	drb%	crb%	stl%	blk%	def	3pm	pf/48	fouled%
Team One Totals	101.2	55.3	59.3	67.3	12.9	50.6	100.3	150.8	7.3	8.5	71.2	408	18.79	12.5
Team Two Totals	104.7	55.7	59.6	69.7	13.8	43.8	96.3	140.1	8.9	8.7	70	478	21.41	12.3
Team Three Totals	107	55.2	59.1	70.3	13.4	41.3	90.1	131.4	8.1	10.1	70.6	421	19.72	12.3
Team Four Totals	106.4	55.2	59.4	73	14	43.7	94.5	138.2	7.4	8	69.9	462	19.33	13.1
Team Five Totals	113.4	54.5	58.4	73.2	14	46.5	99.5	145.9	7.6	8.1	67.5	522	19.77	11.5

Five Team Average

106.6

55.2

59.2

70.7

13.6

45.2

96.1

141.3

7.9

8.7

69.8

458

19.81

12.3

140 as an average for creb seems pretty crazy. I had one of the best rebounding averages last season and I think only had a team or two with over 140. My tov is way better than yours but I doubt it will make up for a 20%reb difference lol.

min	def	Min	3s	ftm	fp48	usage	efg	oreb	dreb	ast	tov
18400	77.05	224.39	573.00	2902.00	15.66	108.01	53.11	32.44	92.86	64.18	11.72
19538	72.46	238.27	594.00	2915.00	16.07	108.83	52.62	33.65	93.02	66.14	12.57
19689	74.24	240.11	593.00	3286.00	15.77	105.46	52.45	34.65	103.82	64.99	12.25
19652	71.92	239.66	477.00	2666.00	16.73	107.46	52.76	34.48	98.48	66.34	12.75
19653	69.73	239.67	619.00	2427.00	16.30	110.45	52.99	33.69	97.34	66.50	12.71

3s and fts haven’t been adjusted and my team’s certainty aren’t complete these are just the initial groups I throw together to draft. My efg and rebounding probably the two most important things just aren’t very good.

Posted by steelers821 on 8/11/2023 5:13:00 PM (view original):
140 as an average for creb seems pretty crazy. I had one of the best rebounding averages last season and I think only had a team or two with over 140. My tov is way better than yours but I doubt it will make up for a 20%reb difference lol.

eh, low turnovers are arguably better than high rebounding, as there's diminishing returns with boards and turnovers are just always good to have less of. I have never had great success with low boards, though.

Regarding 140 as an average... people often take Rodman in these leagues and think, "Okay, I'm good on rebounds" and do stupid **** like draft a bunch of low board guys with him. I didn't do that. Thus: more boards!

didnt think id ever be upset about missing out walt bellmay but savage is funny like that...he was the perfect 12th round(undrafted last year) gilmore backup...thanks a lot steelers!

Posted by dh555 on 8/11/2023 5:51:00 PM (view original):
didnt think id ever be upset about missing out walt bellmay but savage is funny like that...he was the perfect 12th round(undrafted last year) gilmore backup...thanks a lot steelers!

I’m really liking Bellamy. He’s a good Gasol backup and honestly does a better job than bill bridges some seasons and being Wallace’s backup. Really happy I got him.

Posted by ashamael on 8/11/2023 5:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by steelers821 on 8/11/2023 5:13:00 PM (view original):
140 as an average for creb seems pretty crazy. I had one of the best rebounding averages last season and I think only had a team or two with over 140. My tov is way better than yours but I doubt it will make up for a 20%reb difference lol.

eh, low turnovers are arguably better than high rebounding, as there's diminishing returns with boards and turnovers are just always good to have less of. I have never had great success with low boards, though.

Regarding 140 as an average... people often take Rodman in these leagues and think, "Okay, I'm good on rebounds" and do stupid **** like draft a bunch of low board guys with him. I didn't do that. Thus: more boards!

Yeah I guess wil Barkley/rodman you’re going to have good rebounding. Didn’t really think about diminishing returns from rebounds

Posted by ashamael on 8/11/2023 4:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 8/11/2023 4:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dBKC on 8/11/2023 4:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ashamael on 8/11/2023 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Pat Bev was the guy I was debating taking instead of De'Aaron. I definitely should have, but I was worried about painting myself into two corners with only one pick left to fix it. I would have been fine. Oh well. De'Aaron will see maybe 3k minutes anyway so not a huge deal.

Also: I've discovered the power of Tmac. Holy ****, was I sleeping on this guy. I wanted Kobe in round 4 (thanks, Rob), and he would have been quite a bit better, but getting Tmac where I did is amazing. His shooting is frightening, but with Chuck, Worm, and the slew of 60%+ efg guys surrounding him, it's okay.

Consider my enthusiasm for these teams officially re-ignited.

I feel the same way about Vince. He’s definitely going to make team building easier for me. He might have lowish eFG, but he’s a low TO guy who is a decent passer, defender, and 3pt shooter, who isn’t horrible at anything. I was sleeping on him too.

Both of them robusk staples. Definitely two of my very favorite players in Savage.

Yeah, I love Vince and have used him at least once, maybe twice in this thing. I meant to grab him several other times, but you did it first. I've always like Vince more than Tmac, but Tmac's best three seasons are fantastic. Two of them REALLY low on threes, though.

Current build (haven't drafted a 12th player yet + lots of tweaking yet to do):

Name	Usg	efg%	TS%	ast%	tov%	orb%	drb%	crb%	stl%	blk%	def	3pm		fouled%
T1 Starter Totals	101.3	55.3	60.3	72.1	13.3	51.5	101.7	153.2	7.6	8.6	77.2	265		12.4
T2 Starter Totals	102.4	55.6	59.5	77.2	14.8	48.2	99	147.2	9.5	8.4	75.6	322		11.9
T3 Starter Totals	109	55.2	59.7	71.8	13.4	45.7	94.9	140.6	8.3	8.8	74	327		11.4
T4 Starter Totals	103.1	55.4	57.8	71.1	14.6	45.7	100.8	146.5	7.3	6	71.6	362		13.1
T5 Starter Totals	104.6	54.7	57.6	78.2	15.7	50.7	101.9	152.6	7.7	7.8	70.8	385		10.9
Name	Usg	efg%	TS%	ast%	tov%	orb%	drb%	crb%	stl%	blk%	def	3pm	pf/48	fouled%
Team One Totals	101.2	55.3	59.3	67.3	12.9	50.6	100.3	150.8	7.3	8.5	71.2	408	18.79	12.5
Team Two Totals	104.7	55.7	59.6	69.7	13.8	43.8	96.3	140.1	8.9	8.7	70	478	21.41	12.3
Team Three Totals	107	55.2	59.1	70.3	13.4	41.3	90.1	131.4	8.1	10.1	70.6	421	19.72	12.3
Team Four Totals	106.4	55.2	59.4	73	14	43.7	94.5	138.2	7.4	8	69.9	462	19.33	13.1
Team Five Totals	113.4	54.5	58.4	73.2	14	46.5	99.5	145.9	7.6	8.1	67.5	522	19.77	11.5

Five Team Average

106.6

55.2

59.2

70.7

13.6

45.2

96.1

141.3

7.9

8.7

69.8

458

19.81

12.3

Fouls are pretty awful

^anatomy of a top 6 squad. Defense isn’t perfect but really good offense and boards.