how to offer scholarship? Topic

I know this sounds basic, and it is, but I've just done my first days attention points and at 5pm 2 recruits sent letters asking for scholarships but I have no idea how to offer one. I've looked everywhere I can think of?
Not trying to be rude but it would be helpful if some of the help guides described things as they look to people who haven't seen them before rather than just saying "when the scholarship unlocks"- what does that look like?
Thank you.
12/22/2016 8:39 PM
Open the "recruit" option on the player card. Scroll down. You'll see "Offer Scholarship".
12/22/2016 8:42 PM
Thanks! I see all kinds of good things there.
12/22/2016 8:45 PM
It's Christmas early for you!!!

Good luck.
12/22/2016 8:46 PM
Thanks, Santa. Merry Christmas to you!
12/22/2016 9:06 PM
You get no recruiting benefit for offering a scholarship. On that basis, there is no hurry to offer one. Recruiting is a very fluid, dynamic process. If developments require you to pull a schollie offer because you have lined up someone better, you lose virtually all recruiting effort in that guy. You may later wish to renew your interest in him, but you won't be able to do so. Ergo, there is good reason to wait to offer the schollie until about a cycle or two before he might sign.

On the other hand, appearances matter. If you offer him the schollie, that will appear on his page. Another coach may infer that you are "all in" on him, and that potential suitor may shy away from a battle for that recruit. Ergo, there is also some reason to offer the schollie quickly.

All recruiting is a balance. This is just one example. Sometimes I offer quickly and sometimes not. Things are rarely as they appear. Good luck.
12/22/2016 10:23 PM
Thanks Coach.
12/23/2016 1:45 PM
Posted by CoachSpud on 12/22/2016 10:23:00 PM (view original):
You get no recruiting benefit for offering a scholarship. On that basis, there is no hurry to offer one. Recruiting is a very fluid, dynamic process. If developments require you to pull a schollie offer because you have lined up someone better, you lose virtually all recruiting effort in that guy. You may later wish to renew your interest in him, but you won't be able to do so. Ergo, there is good reason to wait to offer the schollie until about a cycle or two before he might sign.

On the other hand, appearances matter. If you offer him the schollie, that will appear on his page. Another coach may infer that you are "all in" on him, and that potential suitor may shy away from a battle for that recruit. Ergo, there is also some reason to offer the schollie quickly.

All recruiting is a balance. This is just one example. Sometimes I offer quickly and sometimes not. Things are rarely as they appear. Good luck.
First sentence: Really? I thought the offer actually carried significant weight.

I could be completely wrong, but your statement is surprising if true.
12/23/2016 2:15 PM
Posted by kcsundevil on 12/23/2016 2:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachSpud on 12/22/2016 10:23:00 PM (view original):
You get no recruiting benefit for offering a scholarship. On that basis, there is no hurry to offer one. Recruiting is a very fluid, dynamic process. If developments require you to pull a schollie offer because you have lined up someone better, you lose virtually all recruiting effort in that guy. You may later wish to renew your interest in him, but you won't be able to do so. Ergo, there is good reason to wait to offer the schollie until about a cycle or two before he might sign.

On the other hand, appearances matter. If you offer him the schollie, that will appear on his page. Another coach may infer that you are "all in" on him, and that potential suitor may shy away from a battle for that recruit. Ergo, there is also some reason to offer the schollie quickly.

All recruiting is a balance. This is just one example. Sometimes I offer quickly and sometimes not. Things are rarely as they appear. Good luck.
First sentence: Really? I thought the offer actually carried significant weight.

I could be completely wrong, but your statement is surprising if true.
Spud's first sentence is plainly false. Scholarship offers have recruiting credit (it continues to unlock recruiting actions in the absence of all other additional effort and I've been able to get to VH from VL just on the schollie offer).

The rest of his post is accurate however in that if you offer the schollie, you better want that recruit because once you revoke it, its damn near impossible to get him interested again (so you better be sure you want to sign him when you offer it).
12/23/2016 3:14 PM
"Scholarship offers have recruiting credit (it continues to unlock recruiting actions in the absence of all other additional effort and I've been able to get to VH from VL just on the schollie offer)."

It does do those things, that is true, but according to Seble himself during the beta, they have no weight of their own. A subtle difference.
12/23/2016 3:23 PM
Posted by buddhagamer on 12/23/2016 3:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by kcsundevil on 12/23/2016 2:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachSpud on 12/22/2016 10:23:00 PM (view original):
You get no recruiting benefit for offering a scholarship. On that basis, there is no hurry to offer one. Recruiting is a very fluid, dynamic process. If developments require you to pull a schollie offer because you have lined up someone better, you lose virtually all recruiting effort in that guy. You may later wish to renew your interest in him, but you won't be able to do so. Ergo, there is good reason to wait to offer the schollie until about a cycle or two before he might sign.

On the other hand, appearances matter. If you offer him the schollie, that will appear on his page. Another coach may infer that you are "all in" on him, and that potential suitor may shy away from a battle for that recruit. Ergo, there is also some reason to offer the schollie quickly.

All recruiting is a balance. This is just one example. Sometimes I offer quickly and sometimes not. Things are rarely as they appear. Good luck.
First sentence: Really? I thought the offer actually carried significant weight.

I could be completely wrong, but your statement is surprising if true.
Spud's first sentence is plainly false. Scholarship offers have recruiting credit (it continues to unlock recruiting actions in the absence of all other additional effort and I've been able to get to VH from VL just on the schollie offer).

The rest of his post is accurate however in that if you offer the schollie, you better want that recruit because once you revoke it, its damn near impossible to get him interested again (so you better be sure you want to sign him when you offer it).
Yes, this is all exactly what I previously thought.
12/23/2016 3:50 PM
Posted by CoachSpud on 12/23/2016 3:23:00 PM (view original):
"Scholarship offers have recruiting credit (it continues to unlock recruiting actions in the absence of all other additional effort and I've been able to get to VH from VL just on the schollie offer)."

It does do those things, that is true, but according to Seble himself during the beta, they have no weight of their own. A subtle difference.
I don't think that's true.
12/23/2016 3:53 PM
For advice to a newbie, key to understand that postponing the schollie has current effects on your ability to make prgress with the recruit.

Also, I am not sure that withdrawing schollie offer really destroys "virtually all" prior effort. I have had some experience where that did not seem to be the case. A hit, but not virtually all.
12/23/2016 3:55 PM
This was in the beta forums, which are gone, and my memory is hazy. But I seem to recall that initially, the scholarships didn't have credit, but that was tweaked at some point. It does seem that they move the bar on other actions (visits, promises) more than AP alone - someone currently in a recruiting world would have to verify, I honestly haven't thought at all about whether the scholarship has recruiting credit on its own since beta, I've assumed it did.

There is no considering credit, so there's no benefit to offering early *except* if we assume it does advance the bar on promises; for recruits who want playing time, there is a benefit to offering them minutes as early as possible, as that improves your preference profile with them and increases the weight of early APs.
12/23/2016 4:11 PM
Posted by shoe3 on 12/23/2016 4:11:00 PM (view original):
This was in the beta forums, which are gone, and my memory is hazy. But I seem to recall that initially, the scholarships didn't have credit, but that was tweaked at some point. It does seem that they move the bar on other actions (visits, promises) more than AP alone - someone currently in a recruiting world would have to verify, I honestly haven't thought at all about whether the scholarship has recruiting credit on its own since beta, I've assumed it did.

There is no considering credit, so there's no benefit to offering early *except* if we assume it does advance the bar on promises; for recruits who want playing time, there is a benefit to offering them minutes as early as possible, as that improves your preference profile with them and increases the weight of early APs.
Actually in season 1 of the BETA, schollie offers had recruiting value and the rescind had no effect and at the start of BETA, actions were instantaneous, someone figured they could just offer/rescind repetitively until the other actions unlocked (thus why there is a penalty now to rescinding a schollie offer now).

There are valid reasons to hold off of offering the schollie (backup option being one of them) but this makes battling for back up options even more difficult when planning EEs as if someone comes along to battle you for your backup option, you likely can't offer the schollie else you screw yourself over (so you likely have to hope that nobody battles you or notices that you haven't offered a schollie).
12/23/2016 8:54 PM
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