Prestige D1 3.0 Topic

Posted by zorzii on 12/30/2016 10:14:00 PM (view original):
I am pretty sure effort is minimal for D1 teams. I am talking same efforts. D2 teams can't compete with my D1 teams if I want the players. We need the complete picture. I haven't seen that kind of results except once. Anyways, even with top efforts from D2, it should not have happened. It needs fixing.
exactly. If a D2 goes all in, and the d1 guys are really disinterested, well **** happens.
12/31/2016 11:25 AM
If a D1 team puts in enough effort to get to Very High, maybe it ought to automatically knock any lower division teams down to moderate... So for a D2 to win, there has to be seriously disproportionate effort... It has to be Very High. Just a thought.

I agree with zorzii in that D2 recruiting is pretty easy, there's no need for this to happen. Doesn't help gameplay.
12/31/2016 12:26 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 10:18:00 AM (view original):
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Realism, right?

I agree that it would never happen in the real world. But, without question, the D2 school dumped tons of resources into the player and the 3 D1s came late to the party. IOW, not one of them contacted the player in RS1. So, is it realistic that a school would ignore a kid for months on end, not even a letter, text or phone call, then jump on him late? Of course it isn't. That would also never happen.

Sure it is realistic if the school had a last minute roster change (ie: a player getting expelled from the school), they would start recruiting someone they previously didn't even have a spot for and therefore showed no initial interest. In the real world once those 3 Big 6 schools came offering scholarships, the kid would be thrilled at how much of a better opportunity he was getting, not go to a lowly D2 school just because they showed him initial interest.
Then I'm sure you can find an example of a kid saying "Yeah, Michigan hadn't contacted me at all up until the week before signing day. In fact, not a single D1 school had talked me. Boy, I was thrilled!!!"

I'll wait here.

Honestly, I'd STFU about this is there was some mechanism where a school had to contact a recruit in the first session in order to actually recruit him in the second session. Doesn't even have to be AP(although that's all that's in place). Maybe a "targeting" option, free of charge, with a limit on how many. Let MSU target 50, or a 100, recruits in session 1. But, as long as MSU has made no contact with a player until RS2, I could care less when they lose to a D2 that's been pumping resources into a player.
You love to throw out logical fallacys. How would I know if a kid wasn't recruited up until the week before signing day? Do I know every single person ever recruited for college? LOL. Just because I personally don't know someone that fits that mold doesn't mean that they aren't out there. But your intent is to throw out a question/task that is impossible for that particular individual to complete and then say that it's impossible for anyone to complete it. That's not how it works, that's a logical fallacy.
It's not out there. Schools target their recruits early. They don't want to fall behind their rival. It's a simple, real-life fact. You won't find one because he doesn't exist. Now, if you want to argue against my argument, please do so. But know you're being deceitful if you're pretending there is a single D1 player who wasn't contacted by any D1 school until late in the process. They know about players in HS/AAU. And they have a guy decked out in MSU gear scouting him, and making it known they're there for him without actual contact, before that first text is sent.
It's impossible to know because we aren't associated with a college that is recruiting. How do you know that it hasn't happened? What evidence of that do you have?

One real life example would be at the school I used to attend. A player was arrested and kicked out of the school very late in the recruiting process and the school signed a kid that they hadn't had an offer out to. Point being the best anyone can do to answer your question or contention would be conjecture so you're setting up the person to fail by asking a question that is impossible to prove....that's not proving a point.
12/31/2016 1:01 PM
The Italian is an interesting case. I'd be curious to see effort here. My hunch is that the D1s sent APs, and a scholarship, and used their resources elsewhere. I suspect Fl Tech offered a start, and did as many visits as they could afford. And it was still a long shot. So effort and promises was not likely close - I suspect the D2 prioritized this guy much higher.

If any of those very high D1s had put in serious effort, they knock D2s off. This isn't a case of prestige not mattering much.
12/31/2016 1:14 PM
Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 11:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by chapelhillne on 12/31/2016 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 10:27:00 AM (view original):
You guys are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole by arguing that the recruit wasn't contacted early enough. Again, there are MANY things that make this game unrealistic. And recruiting is a big one.

In real life does a player who is ranked by major scouting organizations NOT get contacted until moments before end of signing period? NO! They are contacted when they're sophomores in HS or even earlier. C'mon. How can you compare real life recruiting actions to this game when it has tons of other inaccuracies like this one?

So unless we want to start recruiting players when they're Soph or Juniors in HS (gasp, just like in real life!) then you can't use the argument "oh the D1 school didn't contact him until the final day of the final signing period" and then compare that to real life. Real life recruiting takes YEARS while we have only a few days. C'mon.

Bottom line, you're not going to be able to replicate real life in this game. It's not possible. But people want to get as close to it while also making the game the most amount of fun. A coach being at a school for 50 seasons (which in real life time is only several years, not 50 years) may be fine for the game. D1 schools losing to D2 schools because of a flawed recruiting system isn't realistic nor good for the game according to many.
Exactly - well said.
I think one of the biggest problems when trying to compare this game to real life is that in real life coaches are always thinking 2-3 seasons down the road. When Coach K signs Brandon Ingram, he doesn't wait until Ingram is on campus. He doesn't wait until he starts getting draft buzz. And he certainly doesn't wait until he declares to start recruiting his replacement. He starts recruiting IMMEDIATELY. But you can't do that in this game. You can't start recruiting 2 classes down the line. Even "sending letters or attention" or w/e to potential recruits who will will play in 2-3 seasons.
You CAN start recruiting in the 1st session. But D1 coaches don't want to recruit back-up plans in RS1. They just want to complain when a D2 gets a player before they can open up scholarship offer.
12/31/2016 1:54 PM
Posted by metsmaniac2 on 12/31/2016 1:01:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Realism, right?

I agree that it would never happen in the real world. But, without question, the D2 school dumped tons of resources into the player and the 3 D1s came late to the party. IOW, not one of them contacted the player in RS1. So, is it realistic that a school would ignore a kid for months on end, not even a letter, text or phone call, then jump on him late? Of course it isn't. That would also never happen.

Sure it is realistic if the school had a last minute roster change (ie: a player getting expelled from the school), they would start recruiting someone they previously didn't even have a spot for and therefore showed no initial interest. In the real world once those 3 Big 6 schools came offering scholarships, the kid would be thrilled at how much of a better opportunity he was getting, not go to a lowly D2 school just because they showed him initial interest.
Then I'm sure you can find an example of a kid saying "Yeah, Michigan hadn't contacted me at all up until the week before signing day. In fact, not a single D1 school had talked me. Boy, I was thrilled!!!"

I'll wait here.

Honestly, I'd STFU about this is there was some mechanism where a school had to contact a recruit in the first session in order to actually recruit him in the second session. Doesn't even have to be AP(although that's all that's in place). Maybe a "targeting" option, free of charge, with a limit on how many. Let MSU target 50, or a 100, recruits in session 1. But, as long as MSU has made no contact with a player until RS2, I could care less when they lose to a D2 that's been pumping resources into a player.
You love to throw out logical fallacys. How would I know if a kid wasn't recruited up until the week before signing day? Do I know every single person ever recruited for college? LOL. Just because I personally don't know someone that fits that mold doesn't mean that they aren't out there. But your intent is to throw out a question/task that is impossible for that particular individual to complete and then say that it's impossible for anyone to complete it. That's not how it works, that's a logical fallacy.
It's not out there. Schools target their recruits early. They don't want to fall behind their rival. It's a simple, real-life fact. You won't find one because he doesn't exist. Now, if you want to argue against my argument, please do so. But know you're being deceitful if you're pretending there is a single D1 player who wasn't contacted by any D1 school until late in the process. They know about players in HS/AAU. And they have a guy decked out in MSU gear scouting him, and making it known they're there for him without actual contact, before that first text is sent.
It's impossible to know because we aren't associated with a college that is recruiting. How do you know that it hasn't happened? What evidence of that do you have?

One real life example would be at the school I used to attend. A player was arrested and kicked out of the school very late in the recruiting process and the school signed a kid that they hadn't had an offer out to. Point being the best anyone can do to answer your question or contention would be conjecture so you're setting up the person to fail by asking a question that is impossible to prove....that's not proving a point.
You might notice you're the only one arguing that a kid could go with no contact from a D1 school until the last week before signing.

There's a reason for that. Think about it.
12/31/2016 1:56 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 11:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by chapelhillne on 12/31/2016 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 10:27:00 AM (view original):
You guys are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole by arguing that the recruit wasn't contacted early enough. Again, there are MANY things that make this game unrealistic. And recruiting is a big one.

In real life does a player who is ranked by major scouting organizations NOT get contacted until moments before end of signing period? NO! They are contacted when they're sophomores in HS or even earlier. C'mon. How can you compare real life recruiting actions to this game when it has tons of other inaccuracies like this one?

So unless we want to start recruiting players when they're Soph or Juniors in HS (gasp, just like in real life!) then you can't use the argument "oh the D1 school didn't contact him until the final day of the final signing period" and then compare that to real life. Real life recruiting takes YEARS while we have only a few days. C'mon.

Bottom line, you're not going to be able to replicate real life in this game. It's not possible. But people want to get as close to it while also making the game the most amount of fun. A coach being at a school for 50 seasons (which in real life time is only several years, not 50 years) may be fine for the game. D1 schools losing to D2 schools because of a flawed recruiting system isn't realistic nor good for the game according to many.
Exactly - well said.
I think one of the biggest problems when trying to compare this game to real life is that in real life coaches are always thinking 2-3 seasons down the road. When Coach K signs Brandon Ingram, he doesn't wait until Ingram is on campus. He doesn't wait until he starts getting draft buzz. And he certainly doesn't wait until he declares to start recruiting his replacement. He starts recruiting IMMEDIATELY. But you can't do that in this game. You can't start recruiting 2 classes down the line. Even "sending letters or attention" or w/e to potential recruits who will will play in 2-3 seasons.
You CAN start recruiting in the 1st session. But D1 coaches don't want to recruit back-up plans in RS1. They just want to complain when a D2 gets a player before they can open up scholarship offer.
You missed he part where I said that once Coach K signs Ingram, he would start IMMEDIATELY. Meaning he was already starting recruiting for the following season even though recruiting for THAT season wasn't over. Not the same thing, at all.
12/31/2016 2:33 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 1:56:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Realism, right?

I agree that it would never happen in the real world. But, without question, the D2 school dumped tons of resources into the player and the 3 D1s came late to the party. IOW, not one of them contacted the player in RS1. So, is it realistic that a school would ignore a kid for months on end, not even a letter, text or phone call, then jump on him late? Of course it isn't. That would also never happen.

Sure it is realistic if the school had a last minute roster change (ie: a player getting expelled from the school), they would start recruiting someone they previously didn't even have a spot for and therefore showed no initial interest. In the real world once those 3 Big 6 schools came offering scholarships, the kid would be thrilled at how much of a better opportunity he was getting, not go to a lowly D2 school just because they showed him initial interest.
Then I'm sure you can find an example of a kid saying "Yeah, Michigan hadn't contacted me at all up until the week before signing day. In fact, not a single D1 school had talked me. Boy, I was thrilled!!!"

I'll wait here.

Honestly, I'd STFU about this is there was some mechanism where a school had to contact a recruit in the first session in order to actually recruit him in the second session. Doesn't even have to be AP(although that's all that's in place). Maybe a "targeting" option, free of charge, with a limit on how many. Let MSU target 50, or a 100, recruits in session 1. But, as long as MSU has made no contact with a player until RS2, I could care less when they lose to a D2 that's been pumping resources into a player.
You love to throw out logical fallacys. How would I know if a kid wasn't recruited up until the week before signing day? Do I know every single person ever recruited for college? LOL. Just because I personally don't know someone that fits that mold doesn't mean that they aren't out there. But your intent is to throw out a question/task that is impossible for that particular individual to complete and then say that it's impossible for anyone to complete it. That's not how it works, that's a logical fallacy.
It's not out there. Schools target their recruits early. They don't want to fall behind their rival. It's a simple, real-life fact. You won't find one because he doesn't exist. Now, if you want to argue against my argument, please do so. But know you're being deceitful if you're pretending there is a single D1 player who wasn't contacted by any D1 school until late in the process. They know about players in HS/AAU. And they have a guy decked out in MSU gear scouting him, and making it known they're there for him without actual contact, before that first text is sent.
It's impossible to know because we aren't associated with a college that is recruiting. How do you know that it hasn't happened? What evidence of that do you have?

One real life example would be at the school I used to attend. A player was arrested and kicked out of the school very late in the recruiting process and the school signed a kid that they hadn't had an offer out to. Point being the best anyone can do to answer your question or contention would be conjecture so you're setting up the person to fail by asking a question that is impossible to prove....that's not proving a point.
You might notice you're the only one arguing that a kid could go with no contact from a D1 school until the last week before signing.

There's a reason for that. Think about it.
If they only have D2 offers, yes they could. Trying to snag a recruit that way against a D1 school would be foolish but without a doubt players would go to the D1 school with an offer over a D2 school.
12/31/2016 2:51 PM
It's the closest thing we can get. I didn't miss a thing.

Basically, you're agreeing with me that Coach K isn't calling some kid a week before signing day and saying "Hey, we just had a spot open up. I know I haven't contacted you before but......what you think of being a Blue Devil??"

That's what these griping clowns are doing. Ignore the recruit then think he'd be a great fall back plan but, sad face, he signed before they could offer or signed with someone who showed the player a lot more love.
12/31/2016 2:52 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 2:52:00 PM (view original):
It's the closest thing we can get. I didn't miss a thing.

Basically, you're agreeing with me that Coach K isn't calling some kid a week before signing day and saying "Hey, we just had a spot open up. I know I haven't contacted you before but......what you think of being a Blue Devil??"

That's what these griping clowns are doing. Ignore the recruit then think he'd be a great fall back plan but, sad face, he signed before they could offer or signed with someone who showed the player a lot more love.
But the three D1 schools in this case did have offers in. Yes, a kid would pick going to a Big 6 school on an athletic scholarship over a no name D2 school...
12/31/2016 2:55 PM
Posted by metsmaniac2 on 12/31/2016 2:51:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Realism, right?

I agree that it would never happen in the real world. But, without question, the D2 school dumped tons of resources into the player and the 3 D1s came late to the party. IOW, not one of them contacted the player in RS1. So, is it realistic that a school would ignore a kid for months on end, not even a letter, text or phone call, then jump on him late? Of course it isn't. That would also never happen.

Sure it is realistic if the school had a last minute roster change (ie: a player getting expelled from the school), they would start recruiting someone they previously didn't even have a spot for and therefore showed no initial interest. In the real world once those 3 Big 6 schools came offering scholarships, the kid would be thrilled at how much of a better opportunity he was getting, not go to a lowly D2 school just because they showed him initial interest.
Then I'm sure you can find an example of a kid saying "Yeah, Michigan hadn't contacted me at all up until the week before signing day. In fact, not a single D1 school had talked me. Boy, I was thrilled!!!"

I'll wait here.

Honestly, I'd STFU about this is there was some mechanism where a school had to contact a recruit in the first session in order to actually recruit him in the second session. Doesn't even have to be AP(although that's all that's in place). Maybe a "targeting" option, free of charge, with a limit on how many. Let MSU target 50, or a 100, recruits in session 1. But, as long as MSU has made no contact with a player until RS2, I could care less when they lose to a D2 that's been pumping resources into a player.
You love to throw out logical fallacys. How would I know if a kid wasn't recruited up until the week before signing day? Do I know every single person ever recruited for college? LOL. Just because I personally don't know someone that fits that mold doesn't mean that they aren't out there. But your intent is to throw out a question/task that is impossible for that particular individual to complete and then say that it's impossible for anyone to complete it. That's not how it works, that's a logical fallacy.
It's not out there. Schools target their recruits early. They don't want to fall behind their rival. It's a simple, real-life fact. You won't find one because he doesn't exist. Now, if you want to argue against my argument, please do so. But know you're being deceitful if you're pretending there is a single D1 player who wasn't contacted by any D1 school until late in the process. They know about players in HS/AAU. And they have a guy decked out in MSU gear scouting him, and making it known they're there for him without actual contact, before that first text is sent.
It's impossible to know because we aren't associated with a college that is recruiting. How do you know that it hasn't happened? What evidence of that do you have?

One real life example would be at the school I used to attend. A player was arrested and kicked out of the school very late in the recruiting process and the school signed a kid that they hadn't had an offer out to. Point being the best anyone can do to answer your question or contention would be conjecture so you're setting up the person to fail by asking a question that is impossible to prove....that's not proving a point.
You might notice you're the only one arguing that a kid could go with no contact from a D1 school until the last week before signing.

There's a reason for that. Think about it.
If they only have D2 offers, yes they could. Trying to snag a recruit that way against a D1 school would be foolish but without a doubt players would go to the D1 school with an offer over a D2 school.
It DOES NOT happen in real life. It just plainass doesn't.
12/31/2016 3:01 PM
Posted by metsmaniac2 on 12/31/2016 2:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 2:52:00 PM (view original):
It's the closest thing we can get. I didn't miss a thing.

Basically, you're agreeing with me that Coach K isn't calling some kid a week before signing day and saying "Hey, we just had a spot open up. I know I haven't contacted you before but......what you think of being a Blue Devil??"

That's what these griping clowns are doing. Ignore the recruit then think he'd be a great fall back plan but, sad face, he signed before they could offer or signed with someone who showed the player a lot more love.
But the three D1 schools in this case did have offers in. Yes, a kid would pick going to a Big 6 school on an athletic scholarship over a no name D2 school...
Yet he didn't. Thems the breaks.
12/31/2016 3:02 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2016 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Realism, right?

I agree that it would never happen in the real world. But, without question, the D2 school dumped tons of resources into the player and the 3 D1s came late to the party. IOW, not one of them contacted the player in RS1. So, is it realistic that a school would ignore a kid for months on end, not even a letter, text or phone call, then jump on him late? Of course it isn't. That would also never happen.

Sure it is realistic if the school had a last minute roster change (ie: a player getting expelled from the school), they would start recruiting someone they previously didn't even have a spot for and therefore showed no initial interest. In the real world once those 3 Big 6 schools came offering scholarships, the kid would be thrilled at how much of a better opportunity he was getting, not go to a lowly D2 school just because they showed him initial interest.
Then I'm sure you can find an example of a kid saying "Yeah, Michigan hadn't contacted me at all up until the week before signing day. In fact, not a single D1 school had talked me. Boy, I was thrilled!!!"

I'll wait here.

Honestly, I'd STFU about this is there was some mechanism where a school had to contact a recruit in the first session in order to actually recruit him in the second session. Doesn't even have to be AP(although that's all that's in place). Maybe a "targeting" option, free of charge, with a limit on how many. Let MSU target 50, or a 100, recruits in session 1. But, as long as MSU has made no contact with a player until RS2, I could care less when they lose to a D2 that's been pumping resources into a player.
You love to throw out logical fallacys. How would I know if a kid wasn't recruited up until the week before signing day? Do I know every single person ever recruited for college? LOL. Just because I personally don't know someone that fits that mold doesn't mean that they aren't out there. But your intent is to throw out a question/task that is impossible for that particular individual to complete and then say that it's impossible for anyone to complete it. That's not how it works, that's a logical fallacy.
It's not out there. Schools target their recruits early. They don't want to fall behind their rival. It's a simple, real-life fact. You won't find one because he doesn't exist. Now, if you want to argue against my argument, please do so. But know you're being deceitful if you're pretending there is a single D1 player who wasn't contacted by any D1 school until late in the process. They know about players in HS/AAU. And they have a guy decked out in MSU gear scouting him, and making it known they're there for him without actual contact, before that first text is sent.
It's impossible to know because we aren't associated with a college that is recruiting. How do you know that it hasn't happened? What evidence of that do you have?

One real life example would be at the school I used to attend. A player was arrested and kicked out of the school very late in the recruiting process and the school signed a kid that they hadn't had an offer out to. Point being the best anyone can do to answer your question or contention would be conjecture so you're setting up the person to fail by asking a question that is impossible to prove....that's not proving a point.
You might notice you're the only one arguing that a kid could go with no contact from a D1 school until the last week before signing.

There's a reason for that. Think about it.
If they only have D2 offers, yes they could. Trying to snag a recruit that way against a D1 school would be foolish but without a doubt players would go to the D1 school with an offer over a D2 school.
It DOES NOT happen in real life. It just plainass doesn't.
How the hell do you know? What exposure do you have to college recruiting do you have that you can say that without a doubt it doesn't happen? It's a claim you're making coming straight out of your ***. The fact is that YOU have NO WAY OF KNOWING!
12/31/2016 3:02 PM
Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 2:33:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by chapelhillne on 12/31/2016 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 10:27:00 AM (view original):
You guys are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole by arguing that the recruit wasn't contacted early enough. Again, there are MANY things that make this game unrealistic. And recruiting is a big one.

In real life does a player who is ranked by major scouting organizations NOT get contacted until moments before end of signing period? NO! They are contacted when they're sophomores in HS or even earlier. C'mon. How can you compare real life recruiting actions to this game when it has tons of other inaccuracies like this one?

So unless we want to start recruiting players when they're Soph or Juniors in HS (gasp, just like in real life!) then you can't use the argument "oh the D1 school didn't contact him until the final day of the final signing period" and then compare that to real life. Real life recruiting takes YEARS while we have only a few days. C'mon.

Bottom line, you're not going to be able to replicate real life in this game. It's not possible. But people want to get as close to it while also making the game the most amount of fun. A coach being at a school for 50 seasons (which in real life time is only several years, not 50 years) may be fine for the game. D1 schools losing to D2 schools because of a flawed recruiting system isn't realistic nor good for the game according to many.
Exactly - well said.
I think one of the biggest problems when trying to compare this game to real life is that in real life coaches are always thinking 2-3 seasons down the road. When Coach K signs Brandon Ingram, he doesn't wait until Ingram is on campus. He doesn't wait until he starts getting draft buzz. And he certainly doesn't wait until he declares to start recruiting his replacement. He starts recruiting IMMEDIATELY. But you can't do that in this game. You can't start recruiting 2 classes down the line. Even "sending letters or attention" or w/e to potential recruits who will will play in 2-3 seasons.
You CAN start recruiting in the 1st session. But D1 coaches don't want to recruit back-up plans in RS1. They just want to complain when a D2 gets a player before they can open up scholarship offer.
You missed he part where I said that once Coach K signs Ingram, he would start IMMEDIATELY. Meaning he was already starting recruiting for the following season even though recruiting for THAT season wasn't over. Not the same thing, at all.
There was a college basketball game that featured multi-year recruiting - maybe one of the ESPN series from a decade or so ago. It was tedious and not fun. Realism is great, but it takes a backseat to competitive gameplay.

ETA - I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with the premise here, just a side note.
12/31/2016 3:07 PM
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