Posted by all2matt on 12/31/2016 9:42:00 PM (view original):
Ok ward maybe it's time to give up the stories, just because trump gets away with it from a debatable 20-25% of the country doesn't mean you should follow his lead. People respect honest people, telling us about your real failures and triumphs is life carries way more meaning then trying to feed people lines of bull, any fact that you mix in is automatically assumed a lie because that's the precedence that you laid out for yourself. Basically cut the $)(!T and people will start torespect you opinions and facts in the future

But what I said is what I know?

Back on topic, two of these coaches, oldman and treyomo, were new to their schools, so they probably did do all they possibly could to land this recruit.

Posted by piman314 on 12/31/2016 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Back on topic, two of these coaches, oldman and treyomo, were new to their schools, so they probably did do all they possibly could to land this recruit.

new to div 1 or just new to the school?

To the school. Oldman left msu for SIM bc. Treyomo left lsu and took msu.

Posted by piman314 on 12/31/2016 9:55:00 PM (view original):
To the school. Oldman left msu for SIM bc. Treyomo left lsu and took msu.

No excuses for Oldman to lose that recruit. Maybe this shows the lack of experience on Oldman part?

Posted by Benis on 12/31/2016 3:54:00 PM (view original):
Yes, it's my contention that HD defies time.

Assuming this is sarcasm, which might be a wrong assumption with you, since HD is affecting by time just like everything else, there is a "last minute". Now you may want to dispute the parameters of "last minute" but, for me, RS2 is in range of "last minute".

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/31/2016 9:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by piman314 on 12/31/2016 9:55:00 PM (view original):
To the school. Oldman left msu for SIM bc. Treyomo left lsu and took msu.

No excuses for Oldman to lose that recruit. Maybe this shows the lack of experience on Oldman part?

This couldn't be more ridiculous. Oldman has 20-ish titles and is one of the best ever to play this game. That said, I realize both BC and Sparty were still listed as "very high" when the kid signed. But both schools had new coaches in RS2 when the kid made his decision. Correct me if I'm wrong but schools lose some of the effort accrued between RS1 and RS2 when a new coach comes along, right? The catch is we don't know how much effort is lost and whether or not the coaching changes affected anything (like maybe allowing the D2 school to get from moderate to high).

Posted by darnoc29099 on 1/1/2017 8:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 12/31/2016 9:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by piman314 on 12/31/2016 9:55:00 PM (view original):
To the school. Oldman left msu for SIM bc. Treyomo left lsu and took msu.

No excuses for Oldman to lose that recruit. Maybe this shows the lack of experience on Oldman part?

This couldn't be more ridiculous. Oldman has 20-ish titles and is one of the best ever to play this game. That said, I realize both BC and Sparty were still listed as "very high" when the kid signed. But both schools had new coaches in RS2 when the kid made his decision. Correct me if I'm wrong but schools lose some of the effort accrued between RS1 and RS2 when a new coach comes along, right? The catch is we don't know how much effort is lost and whether or not the coaching changes affected anything (like maybe allowing the D2 school to get from moderate to high).

I was talking about 3.0.

I am sorry that I am not experienced enough, but I try my best. Just to set the records straight I had $14000.00 (14 homes) and 10 minutes on the recruit. I switched schools after 47 seasons just to have a change.

Posted by oldman on 1/2/2017 7:36:00 PM (view original):
I am sorry that I am not experienced enough, but I try my best. Just to set the records straight I had $14000.00 (14 homes) and 10 minutes on the recruit. I switched schools after 47 seasons just to have a change.

I am not qualified to comment on division 1 questions.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/2/2017 7:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by oldman on 1/2/2017 7:36:00 PM (view original):
I am sorry that I am not experienced enough, but I try my best. Just to set the records straight I had $14000.00 (14 homes) and 10 minutes on the recruit. I switched schools after 47 seasons just to have a change.

I am not qualified to comment on division 1 questions.

truth

Posted by reinsel on 12/30/2016 9:25:00 PM (view original):
Eh, prestige doesn't matter enough:

This recruit has signed with Florida Tech.

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Team	Coach	Division	Prestige	Int Level	Scholarship Offer?
Boston College	oldman	DI	A+	Very High	Yes
Kentucky	cem6989	DI	A-	Very High	Yes
Michigan State	treyomo	DI	A+	Very High	Yes
Florida Tech.	jlo0813	DII	A+	High	Yes
Green Mountain	the0nlyis	DII	A+	Low	Yes
Ohio State	jknispel	DI	A-	Low	Yes
Alabama	Sim AI	DI	B-	Very Low	No
Arizona State	abelemons	DI	C+	Very Low	No
Austin Peay	Sim AI	DI	B	Very Low	No
Belmont	Sim AI	DI	C	Very Low	No

3 star international....signed with Florida Tech?

I agree with this. Prestige has been neutered. AP's can easily overcome prestige now. As A+ UCLA with almost perfect preferences, I had to sweat out C+ Northern Arizona on a kid that was was almost fully maxed out in recruiting effort on (e.g. - 20 mins, 20 HVs, cv), except for a start. They were able to overcome two full grades essentially on AP's alone (they simply had more to dole out). I don't think that's a good outcome.

Also, despite complete max effort on another kid (start, 25 mins, 20 HVs, cv), I was only able to get to high against an A- Cal. That seems silly too that Cal's AP's mitigated prestige so heavily.

A+ to C+ same preferences, ap don't play a huge role, 160 ap = 1hv...


A+ full effort VH, C+, same effort, moderate maybe low

Posted by zorzii on 1/3/2017 9:09:00 AM (view original):
A+ to C+ same preferences, ap don't play a huge role, 160 ap = 1hv...


A+ full effort VH, C+, same effort, moderate maybe low

Nope. This is wrong.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/ConsideringList.aspx?rid=3900912

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/History.aspx?rid=3900912

Posted by oldman on 1/2/2017 7:36:00 PM (view original):
I am sorry that I am not experienced enough, but I try my best. Just to set the records straight I had $14000.00 (14 homes) and 10 minutes on the recruit. I switched schools after 47 seasons just to have a change.

Really? Something seems seriously broken about this then. Were the preferences totally lined up against you? No way a D2 should be able to compete with 14 home visits from a D1.