What happens if you make promises to an ineligible player. You have to keep the promise on his first year of eligibility? Does it automatically fulfills the promises no matter what or vice versa (penalize for promise that's impossible to keep because you can't play him the first year no matter what)

You don't have to keep any promises beyond his first season (which he's ineligible). The only risk in making promises to an illegible recruit during recruiting is that he takes the SAT sometime before he shows up (if he shows) and then he expects you to fulfill those promises.

TLDR; you don't have to keep any promises if he shows up to campus ineligible.

D3 schools have to keep the promises as they are eligible to play immediately (while D1/D2 they have to sit for their first season).

The big point is (and mentioned above) - remember, he might pass his SAT and then the promise of 30 min and start will be expected.

So to be clear, you can get the benefits of promising a start and 25 minutes on the recruit without actually giving it to him. Unless, and this is a big unless, he passes the SAT in which case then you will have to meet those promises. Is this correct?

Yes.

you might want to factor into your thinking where you are in recruiting. I think there is more risk that he gets that SAT score up if you are looking at him in phase one. Less chance for SAT during second phase.

of course, there are some schools whose recruits tend to improve a lot on SATs......

I have only been burnt by that once.

Posted by gjalpert on 2/7/2017 1:39:00 PM (view original):
So to be clear, you can get the benefits of promising a start and 25 minutes on the recruit without actually giving it to him. Unless, and this is a big unless, he passes the SAT in which case then you will have to meet those promises. Is this correct?

Correct, his second season you are off the hook for any of the aforementioned promises.

Hopefully I don't jinx anyone, but the risk is pretty low. Out of the many many ineligibles I've made promises to, only 2 have passed the SAT and been eligible.

Posted by fussyd on 2/7/2017 7:14:00 PM (view original):
Hopefully I don't jinx anyone, but the risk is pretty low. Out of the many many ineligibles I've made promises to, only 2 have passed the SAT and been eligible.

but, keep in mind that in 2.0 the recruiting process was later in the cycle - after the season

in 3.0, phase one of recruiting is during the season - so if the timing of SAT taking is unchanged there is more risk in 3.0

IF

Quote post by buddhagamer on 2/7/2017 10:37:00 AM:

D3 schools have to keep the promises as they are eligible to play immediately (while D1/D2 they have to sit for their first season)

Is this a change for 3.0? Ineligibles always sat for a year with no improvement in DIII in 2.0....

They have always been eligible in d3. They sit with no improvement in d2 and d1.

Please let us know when he passes his SAT.