I'm going to be looking at possibly moving up to div 1 in the next couple of seasons. Anything anyone can tell me about the job hiring process? Is it as straight forward as qualified/not qualified/ and longshot? I've heard many people complain about it, so I just wanted to know what to expect. Also curious on qualifications moving from a div 2 to a Big Six school? Is that possible, or do I need to move to a mid major first? Also, are there firings in div 1, like GD has?

Posted by Arfy on 3/16/2017 2:42:00 PM (view original):
I'm going to be looking at possibly moving up to div 1 in the next couple of seasons. Anything anyone can tell me about the job hiring process? Is it as straight forward as qualified/not qualified/ and longshot? I've heard many people complain about it, so I just wanted to know what to expect. Also curious on qualifications moving from a div 2 to a Big Six school? Is that possible, or do I need to move to a mid major first? Also, are there firings in div 1, like GD has?

Straight forward and qualifications are national tourney appearance and pti appearance. 2 national tourney appearance's, and 4 pti appearance's get you to division 1.

Hi Arfy, It is straightforward. You might be able to move from D2 to a downtrodden Big 6 school. I personally suggest moving to a mid major first.

1) You can make the NT easier (beating mostly sims)
2) You will win a lot of games even when bad
3) You can get a better Big 6 job later

If you move to a C- Big 6 team, you'll be forced to play teams like mine twice a year and you'll get beat by 30 and get discouraged, and it's harder to make the NT I think.

There are firings, but you really have to suck to get fired. Like no winning record in 6 seasons or something.

Posted by reinsel on 3/16/2017 3:07:00 PM (view original):
Hi Arfy, It is straightforward. You might be able to move from D2 to a downtrodden Big 6 school. I personally suggest moving to a mid major first.

1) You can make the NT easier (beating mostly sims)
2) You will win a lot of games even when bad
3) You can get a better Big 6 job later

If you move to a C- Big 6 team, you'll be forced to play teams like mine twice and year and you'll get beat by 30 and get discouraged, and it's harder to make the NT I think.

There are firings, but you really have to suck to get fired. Like no winning record in 6 seasons or something.

I would follow his advice! He has the resume that says this is sound advice. To even get a "downtrodden" Big Six Program, you need to also have at least a single NT Win. Sounds odd, but appearances "One and Done" don't carry much favor during the application process.

Taking over a Big 6 doormat is basically like playing the game on difficult setting. You should know what you're getting into. Jury is still out on whether it's harder or not now in 3.0. On one hand, you can actually fight for elite recruits earlier, but you're still at a significant prestige disadvantage, and can still be shut out by a team 2 grades up - which can be 6 or 7 teams in a good, full big 6 conference - if they really want him. And not having conference cash or rollover hurts Big 6 doormats more than elite teams.

That said, if you really want to play in the ACC or Big Ten, go for it. After about a 10-12 years and some D2 success, you'll start being qualified for the lower end Big 6 jobs. Manage expectations, per above.

ETA it may not take 10-12 years. That's just the point where I noticed I was qualified for those jobs from D2 the one time I went from D2 to Big 6 in Naismith.

Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

I just wanted to add;
In my rupp team, i made the NT twice in D3 and twice in D2 and wasn't even a longshot for any D1 team. Those were my only seasons coached and all were one and dones. I just made it to the second round in D2 NT this season so I should be able to comment with more in the coming days.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 5:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

get real drunk and make a new HD video discussing the pro/cons of that.

That is what you need to do

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 5:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

In all seriousness, Ward (though you probably won't read this because I'm blocked. Or even if you do read it, you'll accuse me of attacking you and not heed a single word), I wouldn't set yourself a goal of "x seasons before I move up to D1." You still have so much about the game to learn, and D2 is a much better place to do that. Judging by your videos so far, you still need to learn what makes a good recruit, for example.

Once you've built a D2 program that can consistently make the NT year in and year out, then I think you'll be ready to try your hand at D1. Until then, don't rush.

Best of luck.

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 8:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 5:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

get real drunk and make a new HD video discussing the pro/cons of that.

That is what you need to do

I will never be drunk while working or on camera!

Posted by pallas on 3/16/2017 9:03:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 5:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

In all seriousness, Ward (though you probably won't read this because I'm blocked. Or even if you do read it, you'll accuse me of attacking you and not heed a single word), I wouldn't set yourself a goal of "x seasons before I move up to D1." You still have so much about the game to learn, and D2 is a much better place to do that. Judging by your videos so far, you still need to learn what makes a good recruit, for example.

Once you've built a D2 program that can consistently make the NT year in and year out, then I think you'll be ready to try your hand at D1. Until then, don't rush.

Best of luck.

Its all been division 3 videos. Myself I like great potential and capping out my players. Thanks for the advice I think I may win a conference tourney with the returning group in one or two seasons.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 9:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 8:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 5:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

get real drunk and make a new HD video discussing the pro/cons of that.

That is what you need to do

I will never be drunk while working or on camera!

You'd get a lot more views

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 10:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 9:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 8:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/16/2017 5:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 0nly on 3/16/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Ideally if your goal is to coach a high level team like Illinois UNC try and find a previously human coached non major you qualify for because rebulding a non major is goign to take ~3-4 seasons, then winning enough to qualify for a good job will take between another 3-5 seasons if you are good then whatever high level job you want is most likely going to be another 3-4 season rebuild.

If you're goal is to coach something like Cal, FSU, Purdue, or a midmajor like Utah stay at D2 and jump straight to Big 6, because you can easily find jobs like that you qualify for Big 6 and there is no point coaching a non major in between since it doesn't do anything but extend the time it takes to get to winning at that job.

And wvu is wrong you can get Big 6 jobs with 0 D1 NT wins either coming from D2 or just from 3+ D1 NT bids. C-/D+ jobs with B/B- baseline only require 3 D1 NT bids with solid record/rpi

If you average a S16 or better at D2 you will qualify for Big 6 much quicker than 10-12 seasons. 10 seasons is about what it takes to get a Big 6 job with nothing but 1/2nd round appearances.

So I should wait until I hit 10 seasons at division 2? My goal is to coach every aspect of Hoop Dynasty before I start mentoring. I got 1 nt appearance already.

There is some solid teams right now open in Allen big 6. I was contemplating rather I should wait to get all jobs open or qualify for big 6. I am a program builder myself so I don't mind taking a doormat or and fallen off Duke/NCSU team. What should I do Only?

get real drunk and make a new HD video discussing the pro/cons of that.

That is what you need to do

I will never be drunk while working or on camera!

You'd get a lot more views

No thanks lol!

0nly, just out of curiosity, how much would it take to jump from D3 to D1 mid-major?