well, this is a new low--losing in the 1st round as the #1 overall seed to a lousy sim in tark.

16 Western Michigan (19-11) 85
Sim AI
1 South Carolina (26-4) 79
bathtubhippo

Boxscore

What the hell. RANDOM GAME SLREAD CHEESE!

Wow, they shot 12 of 26 from 3pt range (.462) when they normally average .359? Hard to gameplan for that. It's like when a someone gets on fire in NBA Jam.

their lower ATH lower REB guys just crushed my starting frontcourt on the boards. their mediocre guards torched my 100-def backcourt. i literally had a 100-def backcourt going against these guys.

well, i got like six players on the big board, no one higher than "on the fence." hopefully this travesty results in them all staying, but maybe they are just a bunch of chumps and I'd better off without them. maybe HD3 includes a secret hidden team LOSER rating, which i definitely have a 100 in.

Posted by bathtubhippo on 5/3/2017 11:07:00 AM (view original):
their lower ATH lower REB guys just crushed my starting frontcourt on the boards. their mediocre guards torched my 100-def backcourt. i literally had a 100-def backcourt going against these guys.

well, i got like six players on the big board, no one higher than "on the fence." hopefully this travesty results in them all staying, but maybe they are just a bunch of chumps and I'd better off without them. maybe HD3 includes a secret hidden team LOSER rating, which i definitely have a 100 in.

I'd still ask for an explanation. I want to know Bath. I mean, how can you lose a game like this one? what was in that team chemistry that made them able to hang with your vastly superior team? I need to know, it could help in recruiting.

I saw this result and was in absolute disbelief. I can't fathom how they dropped 50 points on you in the first half nevermind held your vastly superior team off for the rest of the game. I would open a ticket as this is such an outlier it is as if the engine glitched.

Posted by snafu4u on 5/3/2017 4:53:00 PM (view original):
I saw this result and was in absolute disbelief. I can't fathom how they dropped 50 points on you in the first half nevermind held your vastly superior team off for the rest of the game. I would open a ticket as this is such an outlier it is as if the engine glitched.

The crazy thing is which players beat hippo. Haase and Frary are legit Big 6 DI offensive players. Not as good as your teams but I'd take their offense on my Weber St team by a mile.

If they would have shot 9-14 from three and scored 50 points on 30 shots I would have been shocked but dismissed this game.

Instead, their only two real offense options shot a combined 6-18 including a "stellar" 3-12 line from three. Wth

...and their backcourt shredded 100-rated defenders! but the way their C/PF out-rebounded my guys gets me too.

CS hasn't exactly been killing it lately, and there's nothing they can do at this point anyway. the most likely explanation is simply that a 30-point underdog will win this kind of game 1 out of 100 simulations, and i got the bad simulation at the worst possible time. what sucks the most is that in HD3 the lowest seeds *are* often a lot better than then they were in HD2, but i drew a sim team, and a sim team that just isn't any good and isn't even senior heavy.

losing is part of the game and on occasion i have been outcoached by a lesser team on paper, and i have no problem losing that type of game, but man it sucks to lose to a bad sim after such a great season! womp womp.

I've lost games like this before. There is no rhyme or reason. But because of those experiences, I always lean to at least +1 against a SIM.

I feel your pain though BRO.

Haven't had that kind of seed and lose. I have had a dominate D3 team roll against tough teams then lose to the same weak sim school in conference play. Season after season they were a HUGE upset potential while they were crushed by other sim teams in the conference.

Posted by skinndogg on 5/3/2017 5:42:00 PM (view original):
I've lost games like this before. There is no rhyme or reason. But because of those experiences, I always lean to at least +1 against a SIM.

I feel your pain though BRO.

yeah, i pretty much only use 0 or +1 vs sims. in retrospect perhaps a +1 would have been better since they do have a lot of mediocre PER shooters, but i had (evidently misplaced) confidence in my backcourt defense. i don't think it would have made a difference given how tremendously bad the simulation went anyway. what i might have saved shooting i might have lost in RBs and FT chances, given how that went. but who knows.

thanks all for your sympathies and letting me rant/cry. i'll be back in a couple days to cry again about getting 4 EEs after a 1st rd exit...ha!

I don't see the problem here. This follows the same programming logic employed with the rest of HD 3.0. Both recruiting and NT Tournament games will be decided by coin flips. So, think of it like this...South Carolina was a Very High with a 75% change of winning. Western Michigan was a High with a 25% chance. WMU won the coin flip. Too bad Carolina did not expend more effort during the regular season. They could have knocked WMU down to a Moderate and been 100% guaranteed to win the game.

Damn, I feel your pain. I don't remember the exact seeding, it was #1 or #2 but I had a s16 team that returned everyone and got upset in 1st round the next season. It stings and leaves a sour taste in your mouth that I washed down with a water pipe.

Compelled to correct the coin flip,analogy. Recruiting is now like game play. It has been: defined by probability. A 70-30 recruiting battle is not a coin flip. A coin flip is always 50-50, every time. Recruiting is more like a raffle where 100 tickets are sold. If you buy 75 of them, you have 75% chance of one of your tickets being drawn. If you buy 50 you have a 50% chance.
Game play has always been a combination of probabilities: the likelihood of your 99 rebounder to get a board vs. his 59 rebounder, the likelihood of your 99 defender to shut down their 60 perimeter SG . And when all the probabilities are combined and you hold 98 of the 100 raffle tickets, one of the two you don't have can still be a winner.
This game would suck if the better team won 100% of the time. And utilizing probable outcomes is the only way to make a math based game produce varied outcomes. I bet if the replayed the game cited above 99 more times, the #1 seed wins 98.
The argument can be made that the percentage of outcomes may be skewed but who's to say what that percentage should be?

I am 99% certain kcsundevil gave his account to someone.