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Lakevin : If you need a start get a start in. I would give Mike s money to make sure none are higher than moderate. If you let them get. a chance, it's a rookie mistake. Sometimes you can't avoid it but put all in!
5/8/2017 7:11 PM
Posted by simpleton on 5/8/2017 4:16:00 PM (view original):
lakevin, never underestimate the power and influence of Gary Busey, longtime courtside season ticket holder for the Pepperdine Waves!

I was lucky to get Matthews - it was pretty clear I wasn't going to beat you on the other top recruits in So Cal that you had positioned to sign.
Funny, my courtside seat guy in Crum is William Shatner. Buse and Shatner always pal around during our annual Pepperdine-Providence matchup.
5/8/2017 9:18 PM
Posted by zorzii on 5/8/2017 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Lakevin : If you need a start get a start in. I would give Mike s money to make sure none are higher than moderate. If you let them get. a chance, it's a rookie mistake. Sometimes you can't avoid it but put all in!
Yeah, because it's more important to get a guy than win a title. The error with the game logic is that they have players preferring to start as a frosh at Portland State, Pepperdine, or SDSU instead of being a rotation player as a frosh at UCLA, Kentucky, etc.

That's just unrealisti. But it means that any D- Div I coach can dice roll by going well less than all in -- because these players should start at Bemidji State.
5/9/2017 8:16 AM
Posted by lakevin on 5/9/2017 8:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 5/8/2017 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Lakevin : If you need a start get a start in. I would give Mike s money to make sure none are higher than moderate. If you let them get. a chance, it's a rookie mistake. Sometimes you can't avoid it but put all in!
Yeah, because it's more important to get a guy than win a title. The error with the game logic is that they have players preferring to start as a frosh at Portland State, Pepperdine, or SDSU instead of being a rotation player as a frosh at UCLA, Kentucky, etc.

That's just unrealisti. But it means that any D- Div I coach can dice roll by going well less than all in -- because these players should start at Bemidji State.
D- can't beat a B team unless it puts 80 ap a tick and the B team has the guy as a back-up. Honestly, prestige matters less but still has major impact. It would be fun to see the details of the battle.
5/9/2017 8:29 AM
It's easier to come to the forums and ***** that the system doesn't work than it is to figure how to make the system work for you. After all, the game should cater to lakevin's needs.
5/9/2017 8:47 AM
Posted by zorzii on 5/9/2017 8:29:00 AM (view original):
Posted by lakevin on 5/9/2017 8:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 5/8/2017 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Lakevin : If you need a start get a start in. I would give Mike s money to make sure none are higher than moderate. If you let them get. a chance, it's a rookie mistake. Sometimes you can't avoid it but put all in!
Yeah, because it's more important to get a guy than win a title. The error with the game logic is that they have players preferring to start as a frosh at Portland State, Pepperdine, or SDSU instead of being a rotation player as a frosh at UCLA, Kentucky, etc.

That's just unrealisti. But it means that any D- Div I coach can dice roll by going well less than all in -- because these players should start at Bemidji State.
D- can't beat a B team unless it puts 80 ap a tick and the B team has the guy as a back-up. Honestly, prestige matters less but still has major impact. It would be fun to see the details of the battle.
I don't remember exact details but I have beaten a B as a D prestige when they went in heavily (we shared notes after so I know what they spent). I've won and lost dice rolls against B prestige a couple times as D prestige actually.

I do think a promised start is weighted unevenly. A promised start for Kentucky should weigh a lot more than a promise for my New Mexico State team.
5/9/2017 9:00 AM
" The error with the game logic is that they have players preferring to start as a frosh at Portland State, Pepperdine, or SDSU instead of being a rotation player as a frosh at UCLA, Kentucky, etc. "


That is your opinion but I don't believe that is the majority opinion anymore.
5/9/2017 9:07 AM
I won't speak for Portland State, but SDSU (B prestige) is on a strong run with dexterduane and is a top-5 team right now. Pepperdine (B+ prestige) has been to 3 of the last 4 sweet 16's and is a top-25 team this season. I actually don't think it's unrealistic for 3 or 4-star recruits to sign with those types of teams with promised starts and minutes.
5/9/2017 10:08 AM
It is in the NCAA. But some people are having trouble separating real-life from sim game. They fail to realize that the product is a sim and, in order to sell said product, a dozen schools can't just be allowed to pick and choose from the top 25-35 recruits then leave the scraps for the rest of the users.
5/9/2017 10:35 AM
benis : get me the math cause I don't see a lot of teams hang with Clemson (A-) when I do not want them to hang with me. I get the player virtually uncontested or I have a huge advantage 70-30...

Of course, I am not talking B+ to A+ teams. But under that, it's not fun for the owner. He basically spend for nothing if I want the player.
5/9/2017 12:16 PM
Well there is a difference between A- and B. So yeah, I could see A- beating D- pretty easily IF they really put in a lot of effort. If the other team goes start + minutes and goes all in then maybe that have a shot. Also there are preferences too so that could obviously create an advantage for the underdog.

But bottom line - you can only go all in on so many players. If your A- goes all in on 3 guys while battling other A schools then you may not have enough to do the same against me and my D school.
5/9/2017 12:57 PM
Posted by Benis on 5/9/2017 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Well there is a difference between A- and B. So yeah, I could see A- beating D- pretty easily IF they really put in a lot of effort. If the other team goes start + minutes and goes all in then maybe that have a shot. Also there are preferences too so that could obviously create an advantage for the underdog.

But bottom line - you can only go all in on so many players. If your A- goes all in on 3 guys while battling other A schools then you may not have enough to do the same against me and my D school.
Yeah but still. I was in that situation and got two out of three, the other one was my 20AP guy, and I got 28% against a A- team, just like me. The game is still geared towards prestige.
5/9/2017 12:58 PM
Okay... but I don't really see your point. A is greater than C. There is an advantage there. And I think there should be an advantage. Its not insurmountable though.

if you're smart and know how to pick your battles then you can work around the prestige disadvantage.
5/9/2017 1:04 PM
Not if you need 5 or 6. It's almost impossible to get a strong, large class any more. Too easy to get several small school poachers.
5/10/2017 7:06 PM
Posted by lakevin on 5/10/2017 7:06:00 PM (view original):
Not if you need 5 or 6. It's almost impossible to get a strong, large class any more. Too easy to get several small school poachers.
Not sure if this was in reply to what I said.. but yeah this is my point. Higher prestige schools need to fend off lots of lower prestige schools. This gives a big advantage to the low prestige school - EFF it, I've got nothing to lose. Might as well go all in for this 5 star.
5/10/2017 7:13 PM
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