Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:26:00 PM (view original):
If Trump did that, it's an impeachable offense.
If the New York Times was right about anything it would be a miracle!!!
I am still looking for your definition of fake news *******
Opinions and bias dressed up as factual. Lacking evidence. Narratives first.
5/16/2017 7:00 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/16/2017 6:45:00 PM (view original):
I'm curious as to how it's going to be more than Comey's word vs Trump's word. Do you think there's any evidence of it being true?
Why would Comey lie in a February Memo?

What's the motivation there?

What's more likely, there's some sort of massive conspiracy to get Trump out or Trump thought he could talk Comey out of pursuing the investigation?
5/16/2017 7:02 PM
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/16/2017 6:45:00 PM (view original):
I'm curious as to how it's going to be more than Comey's word vs Trump's word. Do you think there's any evidence of it being true?
Yep. Bill Clinton perjured himself in public and wasn't impeached. A note written by Comey won't make a difference.
Clinton was impeached. He just wasn't convicted by the Senate.
5/16/2017 7:03 PM
Posted by toddcommish on 5/16/2017 12:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 12:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 12:50:00 PM (view original):
What's funny is these end of the world scenarios! SOMEONE IS GONNA DIE!!! OMG!!! No one has any clue whether someone will die, no one. So stop claiming this crap as fact. That's what it is... crap. Trump is not a politician, he's a successful businessman that gets things done. That's why he was elected. Just because his way doesn't match your way or the business as usual way doesn't mean it's not going to work. Remember, when Trump voters hear 'unprecedented' they know their guy is doing his job.
Trump voters are proven idiots. I don't care what they think.
That's the attitude that got us here.

Seriously, liberals need to stop with the childish name-calling and finger-pointing. The fact is NEITHER party put up a palatable candidate. The Democratic machine put up the ONLY PERSON in this country that would've lost to Donald Trump as their candidate of choice. If you really want to find "proven idiots", look no further than Hillary voters, because they lost. Trump voters are just "suspected idiots" for now. History will determine if they're proven to be idiots.
If I had five bucks for every time I've been called a libtard...I'd be in Tahiti right now.
5/16/2017 8:05 PM
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 7:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:26:00 PM (view original):
If Trump did that, it's an impeachable offense.
If the New York Times was right about anything it would be a miracle!!!
I am still looking for your definition of fake news *******
Opinions and bias dressed up as factual. Lacking evidence. Narratives first.
You forgot the part about anything that cast a bad light on Trump must also by its very nature be fake news.
5/16/2017 8:19 PM
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 8:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 7:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:26:00 PM (view original):
If Trump did that, it's an impeachable offense.
If the New York Times was right about anything it would be a miracle!!!
I am still looking for your definition of fake news *******
Opinions and bias dressed up as factual. Lacking evidence. Narratives first.
You forgot the part about anything that cast a bad light on Trump must also by its very nature be fake news.
Depends on the source.... It's not like the NYT, Washington Times, MSNBC, or CNN have ever covered any positive news for Trump... And if they have it's on the back page. Clearly biased and agenda driven.
5/16/2017 8:47 PM
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 8:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 8:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 7:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:26:00 PM (view original):
If Trump did that, it's an impeachable offense.
If the New York Times was right about anything it would be a miracle!!!
I am still looking for your definition of fake news *******
Opinions and bias dressed up as factual. Lacking evidence. Narratives first.
You forgot the part about anything that cast a bad light on Trump must also by its very nature be fake news.
Depends on the source.... It's not like the NYT, Washington Times, MSNBC, or CNN have ever covered any positive news for Trump... And if they have it's on the back page. Clearly biased and agenda driven.
That's the way I like it. When I was growing up the Chicago Tribune led the nation as the Republican party bible. if in fact the media has a liberal bias it did not become so until the late 50s early 60s. Before that they were run by right wing isolationists so the pendulum has swung left. Get used to it because your time is over
5/16/2017 9:26 PM
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 9:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 8:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 8:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 7:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:26:00 PM (view original):
If Trump did that, it's an impeachable offense.
If the New York Times was right about anything it would be a miracle!!!
I am still looking for your definition of fake news *******
Opinions and bias dressed up as factual. Lacking evidence. Narratives first.
You forgot the part about anything that cast a bad light on Trump must also by its very nature be fake news.
Depends on the source.... It's not like the NYT, Washington Times, MSNBC, or CNN have ever covered any positive news for Trump... And if they have it's on the back page. Clearly biased and agenda driven.
That's the way I like it. When I was growing up the Chicago Tribune led the nation as the Republican party bible. if in fact the media has a liberal bias it did not become so until the late 50s early 60s. Before that they were run by right wing isolationists so the pendulum has swung left. Get used to it because your time is over
Well then.... No wonder the Chicago Tribune has been losing readership and the Tribune Tower was just sold to the highest bidder.
5/17/2017 7:27 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 7:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/16/2017 6:45:00 PM (view original):
I'm curious as to how it's going to be more than Comey's word vs Trump's word. Do you think there's any evidence of it being true?
Why would Comey lie in a February Memo?

What's the motivation there?

What's more likely, there's some sort of massive conspiracy to get Trump out or Trump thought he could talk Comey out of pursuing the investigation?
Who cares what's more likely? What can be proven in court?

Comey made a note. That's what you're bringing to the table?
5/17/2017 9:50 AM
5/17/2017 10:19 AM
BL would take a note from Comey's mother as evidence that Trump should be impeached.
5/17/2017 10:23 AM
Posted by moy23 on 5/17/2017 7:27:00 AM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 9:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 8:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 8:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 7:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/16/2017 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 5/16/2017 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:26:00 PM (view original):
If Trump did that, it's an impeachable offense.
If the New York Times was right about anything it would be a miracle!!!
I am still looking for your definition of fake news *******
Opinions and bias dressed up as factual. Lacking evidence. Narratives first.
You forgot the part about anything that cast a bad light on Trump must also by its very nature be fake news.
Depends on the source.... It's not like the NYT, Washington Times, MSNBC, or CNN have ever covered any positive news for Trump... And if they have it's on the back page. Clearly biased and agenda driven.
That's the way I like it. When I was growing up the Chicago Tribune led the nation as the Republican party bible. if in fact the media has a liberal bias it did not become so until the late 50s early 60s. Before that they were run by right wing isolationists so the pendulum has swung left. Get used to it because your time is over
Well then.... No wonder the Chicago Tribune has been losing readership and the Tribune Tower was just sold to the highest bidder.
Weak, but at least you made an effort
5/17/2017 10:35 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 6:25:00 PM (view original):
Well, we're approaching the endgame:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.
If in fact he asked then no. Asking for something means the person has a choice in the matter. If however he ordered it then yes it is impeachable. Maybe I am splitting hairs here and that is Mikes job but I think Trump will give us a lot more reasons to call for impeachment
5/17/2017 10:51 AM
Posted by wylie715 on 5/16/2017 6:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 5/16/2017 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Liberals just don't get it. Trump doesn't have that many supporters. Never has. Trump has people who hate the system and hate the other options. The extreme hatred and ridiculous scrutiny of every move of the Libs is creating more and more ant-anti-Trump support. Support that will show-up in November. Will the Libs get it when they lose another 1000 seats? I doubt it.
Lib haters just don't get it. Trump is nothing but a self serving conman. He's done nothing since he took office to convince me otherwise.
By the way, I don't consider myself a liberal.
EVERYONE KNOWS Trump is a self-serving conman. But then, so is Hillary, which is how we got into this mess. Nobody (except maybe Moy) said "OH, THIS WILL BE GREAT, TRUMP WILL BE THE NEXT LINCOLN!" The conservatives said "Thank god Hillary lost. Now let's get rid of all vestiges of the Obama presidency". The liberals said "EVERYONE ELSE IS STUPID". The poor souls in the middle said "We were ****** no matter what. Let's see the Trump way of *******-up. We'd already seen the liberal-way of ******* up for eight years."
5/17/2017 11:05 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/17/2017 9:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/16/2017 7:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/16/2017 6:45:00 PM (view original):
I'm curious as to how it's going to be more than Comey's word vs Trump's word. Do you think there's any evidence of it being true?
Why would Comey lie in a February Memo?

What's the motivation there?

What's more likely, there's some sort of massive conspiracy to get Trump out or Trump thought he could talk Comey out of pursuing the investigation?
Who cares what's more likely? What can be proven in court?

Comey made a note. That's what you're bringing to the table?
Thing is, it doesn't have to be proven in court. It just has to get to the point where Congress thinks Trump is more harmful to their re-election chances than the backlash from his supporters.

And, yeah, I believe Comey over Trump.
5/17/2017 11:40 AM
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