Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Posted by moy23 on 6/9/2017 1:42:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Is it illegal for the president to ask the FBI to drop an investigation?

You're confusing 'not cool' with 'criminal'.
In the abstract, it isn't illegal for the President to ask the FBI to drop an investigation. It could rise to the level of obstruction if the investigation is related to the President and there is a pattern of attempts to obstruct--asking Comey for loyalty, asking Comey to drop the investigation, firing Comey for not dropping the investigation, asking Coates and Rogers to intervene in the investigation.
So yes.... The president is allowed by law to ask the FBI to drop an investigation.

Thank you.
Are you allowed to drive 25 MPH down a residential street? Yes, but if you're drunk you're breaking other laws.

So yes...you ARE allowed to drive 25 MPH down a residential street.

Thank you.
6/9/2017 1:44 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
My boss said I hope you guys can sell more Stone beer this month. He wasnt really hoping.
6/9/2017 1:57 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Breaking:

Senator Reed of Senate Intel Committee says Trump will be deposed under oath by special counsel related to obstruction of justice investigation.
this.

Is Trump going to lie under oath???
moy???
6/9/2017 1:59 PM
To me, it just breaks down into some syllogisms.

If Trump ORDERED Comey to drop the investigation, it's a crime
Trump ASKED Comey to drop the investigation (by Comey's own testimony)
Therefore, it's not a crime

If a President is proven to have committed a crime, he can be impeached
Trump has NOT been proven to commit a crime re: Comey investigation (yet)
Therefore, Trump can't be impeached (for this)
6/9/2017 2:05 PM
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Reza Aslan was fired from CNN for his Trump tweets ... Awesome!!!
6/9/2017 3:29 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Breaking:

Senator Reed of Senate Intel Committee says Trump will be deposed under oath by special counsel related to obstruction of justice investigation.
this.

Is Trump going to lie under oath???
sure, if it suits his purposes.
6/9/2017 3:32 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Breaking:

Senator Reed of Senate Intel Committee says Trump will be deposed under oath by special counsel related to obstruction of justice investigation.
this.

Is Trump going to lie under oath???
moy???
Would it matter, since nothing can be proved?
6/9/2017 3:34 PM
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raza gaul did go over the line...cnn is unforgiving.
6/9/2017 3:42 PM
Posted by dino27 on 6/9/2017 3:40:00 PM (view original):
i dont understand why you say nothing can be proved...the facts can be proved...it is up to mueller as to whether the facts that he accepts show obstruction.....like judges do...it will come down to his judgement...it is not a lack of evidence issue.....on comey's allegations there is corroborating evidence and circumstantial evedence and direct evidence.
What FACTS?

Comey's testimony? If I testify that BL is an idiot... Does that make it FACT?


6/9/2017 3:50 PM
it would be your opinion but from supporting facts and evidence others could draw the same conclusion.......comey laid out facts which can be accepted or not accepted...there is corroborating evidence....circumstantial.......and direct evidence including admissions of certain facts by trump.
6/9/2017 4:00 PM
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