Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

We work with other countries, even Russia or China, to solve conflict, to address trade, or to work on other issues...elections? No.
6/10/2017 7:08 PM
If Hillary engaged Shitfuckistan to help win the election, I'm guessing that moy would have a different opinion.
6/10/2017 7:20 PM
Is wrong to expect to have it both ways. Is why we have become so divided. We need to play nice again. Putting ideology ahead of what's fair got us here.
6/10/2017 7:25 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 6/10/2017 7:08:00 PM (view original):
We work with other countries, even Russia or China, to solve conflict, to address trade, or to work on other issues...elections? No.
July 12, 2016

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
6/10/2017 7:28 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 6/10/2017 7:20:00 PM (view original):
If Hillary engaged Shitfuckistan to help win the election, I'm guessing that moy would have a different opinion.
She probably did. She still didn't win.
6/10/2017 7:29 PM
The funny thing is we are very much like Russia on foreign policy ... We invade countries (Afghanistan, Iraq), topple leadership (Egypt, Libya), and supply arms to support wars (pick any). We also hack other countries for our benefit. We spy on them too (Germany, France, Spain) - remember when Obama was busted. How are we THAT different if you take away the media spin on both sides.
6/10/2017 7:39 PM (edited)
:July 12, 2016

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday."


According to PunditFact this claim is "mostly false", because the funds (those hundreds of 1000's of dollars of taxpayer money) involved were provided BEFORE (the money stopped flowing in 2014!) Netanyahu even called for the election. Apparently Obama had NO control over HOW the money was spent by the organization receiving the funds (OneVoice). Either your claim is FAKE news OR PunditFact is not a reputable source.

I will admit to having no idea who the F*** PunditFact is.
Take up your issues with them!
6/10/2017 8:45 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 6/10/2017 8:45:00 PM (view original):
:July 12, 2016

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday."


According to PunditFact this claim is "mostly false", because the funds (those hundreds of 1000's of dollars of taxpayer money) involved were provided BEFORE (the money stopped flowing in 2014!) Netanyahu even called for the election. Apparently Obama had NO control over HOW the money was spent by the organization receiving the funds (OneVoice). Either your claim is FAKE news OR PunditFact is not a reputable source.

I will admit to having no idea who the F*** PunditFact is.
Take up your issues with them!
Washington Post:

Under the auspices of Chairman Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) has released a report today confirming allegations that an NGO with connections to President Obama’s 2008 campaign used U.S. taxpayer dollars attempting to oust Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in 2015. President Obama has had the worst relationship of any U.S. president with the elected prime minister of the Jewish State.
6/10/2017 8:59 PM
Posted by moy23 on 6/10/2017 8:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 6/10/2017 8:45:00 PM (view original):
:July 12, 2016

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday."


According to PunditFact this claim is "mostly false", because the funds (those hundreds of 1000's of dollars of taxpayer money) involved were provided BEFORE (the money stopped flowing in 2014!) Netanyahu even called for the election. Apparently Obama had NO control over HOW the money was spent by the organization receiving the funds (OneVoice). Either your claim is FAKE news OR PunditFact is not a reputable source.

I will admit to having no idea who the F*** PunditFact is.
Take up your issues with them!
Washington Post:

Under the auspices of Chairman Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) has released a report today confirming allegations that an NGO with connections to President Obama’s 2008 campaign used U.S. taxpayer dollars attempting to oust Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in 2015. President Obama has had the worst relationship of any U.S. president with the elected prime minister of the Jewish State.
The times of Israel:

The US government supported a group that tried to unseat Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last year to the tune of nearly $350,000, or NIS 1.3 million, a Senate inquiry published Tuesday found, though it cleared the State Department of any wrongdoing.

The bipartisan probe found no illegal activity in funding the OneVoice group, which became the V15 campaign to oust Netanyahu, though its report chided the State Department for having failed to prevent state funds being used, albeit legally and indirectly, to influence an allied country’s internal political process.

6/10/2017 9:01 PM
Are you saying you don't believe Congressional reports laramiebob?
6/10/2017 9:02 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 6/10/2017 7:20:00 PM (view original):
If Hillary engaged Shitfuckistan to help win the election, I'm guessing that moy would have a different opinion.
I guarantee you are right.
6/10/2017 9:02 PM
Moy:

"I'm not that uncomfortable with Trump LEGALLY working with the Russians that it would change my vote.... Or even get me off my couch to try and change the law regarding this."

Which is my point. To you and your ilk, Trump can do no wrong. You'll spin it however you can to show it doesn't matter. Your worse than even the most extreme lineral. An appologist for a moron with no ethics.

And that's why him and you and yours are not Republicans.
6/10/2017 9:10 PM
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Posted by sjpoker on 6/10/2017 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Moy:

"I'm not that uncomfortable with Trump LEGALLY working with the Russians that it would change my vote.... Or even get me off my couch to try and change the law regarding this."

Which is my point. To you and your ilk, Trump can do no wrong. You'll spin it however you can to show it doesn't matter. Your worse than even the most extreme lineral. An appologist for a moron with no ethics.

And that's why him and you and yours are not Republicans.
Good guess. I'm not a republican. I'm a fiscal conservative and I vote with my wallet.
6/10/2017 9:19 PM
"The bipartisan probe found no illegal activity in funding the OneVoice group, which became the V15 campaign to oust Netanyahu, though its report chided the State Department for having failed to prevent state funds being used, albeit legally and indirectly, to influence an allied country’s internal political process."

OK. So be it. I'll accede to this unless someone can show me it's false.
Good deflection. lol

$350K of taxpayer money. Big Obama scandal.
Kinda pales in comparison to what chumpie is accused of.

But, we'll see. Innocent until proven guilty is our system. There is a LOT of evidence yet to be uncovered and investigated.
Time will reveal all.
6/10/2017 9:51 PM
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