Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

I disagree. Many like D3 just fine. Let's not pretend that HD population is down because D3 recruiting isn't capped. That's nonsense.

I hate this "cap D3" nonsense. It's never been capped. In 2.0 you could recruit both D2 and D1 recruits at D3. Why cap it now? The only hindrance I see at D3 is lack of a scouting budget.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 7/16/2017 9:50:00 AM (view original):
I hate this "cap D3" nonsense. It's never been capped. In 2.0 you could recruit both D2 and D1 recruits at D3. Why cap it now? The only hindrance I see at D3 is lack of a scouting budget.

You couldn't recruit ALL D2 and D1 players in 2.0. Even with A+ prestige you could probably only recruit maybe 1% of D1 recruits? And usually they were pretty bad.

Posted by Benis on 7/16/2017 10:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by darnoc29099 on 7/16/2017 9:50:00 AM (view original):
I hate this "cap D3" nonsense. It's never been capped. In 2.0 you could recruit both D2 and D1 recruits at D3. Why cap it now? The only hindrance I see at D3 is lack of a scouting budget.

You couldn't recruit ALL D2 and D1 players in 2.0. Even with A+ prestige you could probably only recruit maybe 1% of D1 recruits? And usually they were pretty bad.

There was a pull-down cap and it was related to prestige. Now you only need a hard cap since prestige let you get all.

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):
Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

Naismith was clearly the most popular D3 world. It was maybe at 125 tops by early 2016. No other D3 world approached anywhere close to 150 and all were lower than Naismith.

Let's not let facts get in the way of zorzi's story. He's got an agenda to work on.

Posted by npb7768 on 7/16/2017 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):
Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

Naismith was clearly the most popular D3 world. It was maybe at 125 tops by early 2016. No other D3 world approached anywhere close to 150 and all were lower than Naismith.

It was at least in 100 range elsewhere. I get stories 60 to 70 in two days world.

i have no agenda mike, d3 is boring.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 7/16/2017 9:50:00 AM (view original):
I hate this "cap D3" nonsense. It's never been capped. In 2.0 you could recruit both D2 and D1 recruits at D3. Why cap it now? The only hindrance I see at D3 is lack of a scouting budget.

^^^ This.

"Nonsense" is the right word for it. And I agree the D3 budgets are a bit too small.

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 10:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by npb7768 on 7/16/2017 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):
Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

Naismith was clearly the most popular D3 world. It was maybe at 125 tops by early 2016. No other D3 world approached anywhere close to 150 and all were lower than Naismith.

It was at least in 100 range elsewhere. I get stories 60 to 70 in two days world.

i have no agenda mike, d3 is boring.

Not everyone shares that opinion. May I suggest you simply don't play D3?

Posted by npb7768 on 7/16/2017 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):
Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

Naismith was clearly the most popular D3 world. It was maybe at 125 tops by early 2016. No other D3 world approached anywhere close to 150 and all were lower than Naismith.

Mid to High 100s in D3 back in 2015-2016

Populations

Posted by Benis on 7/16/2017 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by npb7768 on 7/16/2017 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):
Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

Naismith was clearly the most popular D3 world. It was maybe at 125 tops by early 2016. No other D3 world approached anywhere close to 150 and all were lower than Naismith.

Mid to High 100s in D3 back in 2015-2016

Populations

Benis,
Wtf...?
D-3 populations in the thread you linked back up my numbers.

in Naismith, January 2016 would've been around Season 85. D3 in Naismith shows around 125 humans.
in Crum, January 2016 would've been around Season 79. D3 in Crum shows 83 humans.
Other Worlds range from in the 90's to 110's.

There was a spike one year around then due to free seasons given out.

Posted by npb7768 on 7/16/2017 11:41:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 7/16/2017 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by npb7768 on 7/16/2017 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 7/16/2017 8:44:00 AM (view original):
Well, something has to be done to D3. We had close to 150 teams in Naismith in 2.0 and it was not slowing down. How many did we lose? All D3 are down...

Naismith was clearly the most popular D3 world. It was maybe at 125 tops by early 2016. No other D3 world approached anywhere close to 150 and all were lower than Naismith.

Mid to High 100s in D3 back in 2015-2016

Populations

Benis,
Wtf...?
D-3 populations in the thread you linked back up my numbers.

in Naismith, January 2016 would've been around Season 85. D3 in Naismith shows around 125 humans.
in Crum, January 2016 would've been around Season 79. D3 in Crum shows 83 humans.
Other Worlds range from in the 90's to 110's.

There was a spike one year around then due to free seasons given out.

Yeah there are some spikes there from freehd prob.

Seasons in the 70s looked pretty strong. That was 2015 right?

Also, January 2016 is a good marker because WIS didn't mention HD 3.0 was in the works til around February 2016.
Looking at D-3 numbers from back then, it looks like maybe half the worlds were sub-100.

Why would Zorzii try to mislead everyone? I have no freakin idea.

Well it's not a huge mislead.

Populations are down about 30% in total since the switch to 3.0. That's pretty bad.