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I don't even know what "the media" means. Donald Trump is one person who is not trusted by the vast majority of Americans. "The media" is thousands of people. Sean Hannity is the media, so is Alex Jones, so is Amy Goodman, so is Glenn Greenwald, so is Seymour Hersh, so is everyone at Breitbart and everyone at The New Yorker, Fox News, CNN, PBS, etc. If you ask me do I trust or distrust all of them, how should I respond? How would you respond?

I would respond I don't trust anyone in the media. They all have agendas. They all get paid by someone.

so, if you get paid for doing your job, you can't be trusted to do it properly?

Depends on who's paying you and what they are demanding.

and you know what is demanded from "the media"?

Yes. Their editors and producers tell them what to talk about and what to not talk about. They also frame 'how' to talk about it. Don't play dumb Wylie. Wikileaks proved the media was providing the Clinton campaign editing rights before articles were published as well as questions to the debates. Trump just pointed out that there's evidence the liberal networks were reluctant to report on the Clinton/Lynch plane meeting.

Dump likes leaks again today?

Looks like Obummer let North Korea get nukes that can reach mainland USA. Good thing Trump is in charge to end this thing once and for all.

"Fire and Fury" could be describe the anger in Melania's eyes when she heard about Dump's golden showers/Russian prostitutes escapades

Posted by moy23 on 8/9/2017 8:17:00 AM (view original):
Looks like Obummer let North Korea get nukes that can reach mainland USA. Good thing Trump is in charge to end this thing once and for all.

So if we're blaming 44 for NK on 45's watch, I guess 44 gets all the credit for the economy also.

Posted by moy23 on 8/9/2017 8:17:00 AM (view original):
Looks like Obummer let North Korea get nukes that can reach mainland USA. Good thing Trump is in charge to end this thing once and for all.

Kind of weird to refer to the earth as "this thing."

• During a previous interview, Anthony Scaramucci suggested there was an ulterior motive behind Vice President Mike Pence's recent hires
• Nick Ayers, a political campaign strategist with little to no federal government experience, was hired as Pence's chief of staff last month
• Pence railed against reporting that he was preparing for a 2020 presidential run, calling it "disgraceful and offensive"

A portion of Anthony Scaramucci's profanity-laced conversation with a reporter from The New Yorker two weeks ago was left out of the magazine's initial bombshell report, which helped lead to Scaramucci's removal as White House communications director.

According to The New Yorker's Washington correspondent, Ryan Lizza, Scaramucci appeared to drop hints about why Nick Ayers, a former campaign veteran with no federal government experience, was recently appointed as Vice President Mike Pence's chief of staff.

"Why do you think Nick's there, bro?" Scaramucci said. "Are you stupid?"

"Why is Nick there?" Scaramucci asked. "Nick's there to protect the vice president because the vice president can't believe what the f--- is going on."

The unearthed portion of the conversation — Lizza said he originally omitted it because he thought Scaramucci's comments about colleagues like the White House chief of staff were more newsworthy at the time — shines a new light into the dynamics between Pence and President Donald Trump following the New York Times report last weekend that Pence's surrogates may be orchestrating a shadow campaign for a potential 2020 presidential run.

The Times' Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns spoke with more than 75 Republican elected officials, donors, and strategists who claimed there was "widespread uncertainty about whether Mr. Trump would be on the ballot in 2020, and little doubt that others in the party are engaged in barely veiled contingency planning."

The Times said that Ayers had expressed to several major Republican donors that Pence "wants to be ready" and that multiple Pence advisers had "already intimated to party donors that he would plan to run if Mr. Trump did not.

In one of the most dramatic developments in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation so far, the FBI has raided former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort’s home, according to a new Washington Post report.

Before dawn on July 26, agents showed up at Manafort’s home without warning, presented a search warrant, and gathered many documents, per Post reporters Carol Leonnig, Tom Hamburger, and Rosalind Helderman.

Mueller’s investigation has been much discussed in Washington, but its work has so far mainly taken place behind the scenes. Now, though, this report gives us a very public indication that Manafort is under very serious scrutiny — and that Mueller may be suspicious that he’s not voluntarily disclosing the whole story.

Manafort has long been an obvious suspect for potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, given his years of lucrative work for rich pro-Russia Ukrainian politicians and a Russian oligarch close to Vladimir Putin. He also attended the June 2016 meeting that Donald Trump Jr. set up with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya with the hope of getting derogatory information about Hillary Clinton.

Beyond that, Manafort appears to be in legal trouble because of his curious finances (per the Wall Street Journal, he’s being looked at for money laundering) and for initially failing to register as a foreign agent for his Ukrainian work. Mueller’s team has taken over this preexisting investigation.

There’s no indication that President Trump knew of the raid, but hours after it happened, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions should have replaced the acting FBI director.

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Posted by crazystengel on 8/8/2017 5:17:00 PM (view original):
I don't even know what "the media" means. Donald Trump is one person who is not trusted by the vast majority of Americans. "The media" is thousands of people. Sean Hannity is the media, so is Alex Jones, so is Amy Goodman, so is Glenn Greenwald, so is Seymour Hersh, so is everyone at Breitbart and everyone at The New Yorker, Fox News, CNN, PBS, etc. If you ask me do I trust or distrust all of them, how should I respond? How would you respond?

I would respond I don't trust anyone in the media. They all have agendas. They all get paid by someone.

so, if you get paid for doing your job, you can't be trusted to do it properly?

Depends on who's paying you and what they are demanding.

and you know what is demanded from "the media"?

Yes. Their editors and producers tell them what to talk about and what to not talk about. They also frame 'how' to talk about it. Don't play dumb Wylie. Wikileaks proved the media was providing the Clinton campaign editing rights before articles were published as well as questions to the debates. Trump just pointed out that there's evidence the liberal networks were reluctant to report on the Clinton/Lynch plane meeting.

I don't doubt editors and producers tell their people what they want reported. My boss tells me what to do. That's why he is my boss. It works on both sides. Liberal leaning media outlets report stuff that fits their views, and conservative leaning outlets reports stuff that fits their views. There may be s few media outlets that are unbiased, but I'm not aware of who they are.

edit - also, while there's no doubt that reporters are given guidelines, what I meant was there's no way you, or anyone else besides the reporters and their editors, know exactly what those guidelines are.

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Posted by crazystengel on 8/8/2017 5:17:00 PM (view original):
I don't even know what "the media" means. Donald Trump is one person who is not trusted by the vast majority of Americans. "The media" is thousands of people. Sean Hannity is the media, so is Alex Jones, so is Amy Goodman, so is Glenn Greenwald, so is Seymour Hersh, so is everyone at Breitbart and everyone at The New Yorker, Fox News, CNN, PBS, etc. If you ask me do I trust or distrust all of them, how should I respond? How would you respond?

I would respond I don't trust anyone in the media. They all have agendas. They all get paid by someone.

so, if you get paid for doing your job, you can't be trusted to do it properly?

Depends on who's paying you and what they are demanding.

and you know what is demanded from "the media"?

Yes. Their editors and producers tell them what to talk about and what to not talk about. They also frame 'how' to talk about it. Don't play dumb Wylie. Wikileaks proved the media was providing the Clinton campaign editing rights before articles were published as well as questions to the debates. Trump just pointed out that there's evidence the liberal networks were reluctant to report on the Clinton/Lynch plane meeting.

I don't doubt editors and producers tell their people what they want reported. My boss tells me what to do. That's why he is my boss. It works on both sides. Liberal leaning media outlets report stuff that fits their views, and conservative leaning outlets reports stuff that fits their views. There may be s few media outlets that are unbiased, but I'm not aware of who they are.

edit - also, while there's no doubt that reporters are given guidelines, what I meant was there's no way you, or anyone else besides the reporters and their editors, know exactly what those guidelines are.

Exactly ... It's that BIAS that makes the media less trustworthy than Trump. Bigly.

Why would anyone trust CNN after what wikileaks revealed, or trust the stand up folks at Fox who harass any woman who appears on their network? Only a blind idiot trusts the media these days. Are you a blind idiot? Is crazystengel?

Soooooo, what has Trump done that would make you trust him? He's lied continually. Hell, he retweeted an article yesterday that had classified information reported in it. Something he's so against.

Posted by The Taint on 8/9/2017 12:49:00 PM (view original):
Soooooo, what has Trump done that would make you trust him? He's lied continually. Hell, he retweeted an article yesterday that had classified information reported in it. Something he's so against.

I don't trust Trump, nor any politician. I, like most people, do trust Trump over the media though... Not on everything, but most things.

Trump for the most part is making efforts to do what he said he would. He's winning on immigration, ISIS, deregulation, Gorsuch, and jobs. He's got work to do on the wall, drugs, healthcare, trade agreements, and most important to me tax reform.

Also, keep in mind that the media isn't typically made up of the high-achieving, ambitious, business-oriented types or the big bombastic bullying types. In high school, these were the underdogs, who were looking to make an impact journalistically since they weren't the "beautiful people" or particularly strong academically. So the people who go into journalism aren't the "silver spoon" or "old money" types (and they have a pre-disposition to strongly dislike those types).

Yeah, these are GENERALIZATIONS, and I'm sure some will have stories of how the rich, handsome/pretty jocks in their school ran the school paper, but the reality is that a significant proportion of current batch of "journalists" are really just grown-up ostracized loners trying to hit back at the people who they feel wronged them: hence, their liberal, anti-establishment, anti-wealth leanings.

Woodward and Bernstein--- one is your description to a tee, the other is the exact reverse opposite