Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

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Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
I vote Republican, Nazi's apparently vote Republican. That means I'm a bad person.
8/16/2017 1:04 PM
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Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
If you join a group of nazis to protest the removal of a confederate symbol, then yes, you are a bad person.
8/16/2017 1:06 PM
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Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
If you join a group of nazis to protest the removal of a confederate symbol, then yes, you are a bad person.
Sigh. Did EVERYONE there to protest the removal of a statue, join a group of nazis?
8/16/2017 1:13 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 8:25:00 AM (view original):
Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
If you join a group of nazis to protest the removal of a confederate symbol, then yes, you are a bad person.
Sigh. Did EVERYONE there to protest the removal of a statue, join a group of nazis?
The nazis were the ones protesting the statue removal.
8/16/2017 1:14 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 8:25:00 AM (view original):
Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
This is the part BL never understands.... Remember:

But but but I saw the video!!! That's all the evidence I need!!!
8/16/2017 1:20 PM
It's probably fair to say that there were indeed some "very fine people" on both sides.

It's probably also very certain the the percentage of "very fine people" differed vastly from one side to the other.
8/16/2017 1:32 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):
It's probably fair to say that there were indeed some "very fine people" on both sides.

It's probably also very certain the the percentage of "very fine people" differed vastly from one side to the other.
Not so sure. People that counter-demonstrate aren't looking to make Facebook friends. They're looking to start a ruckus, either for the media attention or the thrill of a riot.
8/16/2017 2:14 PM

President Donald Trump announced Wednesday he was scrapping two business advisory councils in the wake of several high-profile resignations in protest over his comments on a white supremacist rally in Virginia that turned violent.

Lol, they announced they were disbanding 28 minutes before Dump's "Fake news"

8/16/2017 2:24 PM
Posted by toddcommish on 8/16/2017 2:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):
It's probably fair to say that there were indeed some "very fine people" on both sides.

It's probably also very certain the the percentage of "very fine people" differed vastly from one side to the other.
Not so sure. People that counter-demonstrate aren't looking to make Facebook friends. They're looking to start a ruckus, either for the media attention or the thrill of a riot.
You sound as crazy and incoherent as Trump himself (who you obviously do not support at all!). Most people protest for "media attention" -- they want to call attention to their cause. I thought everyone understood that's how it worked?

No idea what the "make friends on Facebook" line even means.

Glad you identified the real culprits in this whole affair. Sure, no fine people at all among those protesting neo Nazis and white supremacists. Only bad dudes. Among the neo Nazis and white supremacists, lots of very fine people. Very, very fine people. Only the best people. Believe me.

Incredibly, you're willing to go even further than Trump into this hole. Even he had kind words (eventually) for the woman who was murdered by the very fine Nazi.
8/16/2017 2:42 PM
Posted by bronxcheer on 8/16/2017 2:24:00 PM (view original):

President Donald Trump announced Wednesday he was scrapping two business advisory councils in the wake of several high-profile resignations in protest over his comments on a white supremacist rally in Virginia that turned violent.

Lol, they announced they were disbanding 28 minutes before Dump's "Fake news"

Hilarious that the successful billionaire businessman's own peers consider him too toxic to be around.
8/16/2017 2:46 PM
Posted by crazystengel on 8/16/2017 2:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by toddcommish on 8/16/2017 2:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):
It's probably fair to say that there were indeed some "very fine people" on both sides.

It's probably also very certain the the percentage of "very fine people" differed vastly from one side to the other.
Not so sure. People that counter-demonstrate aren't looking to make Facebook friends. They're looking to start a ruckus, either for the media attention or the thrill of a riot.
You sound as crazy and incoherent as Trump himself (who you obviously do not support at all!). Most people protest for "media attention" -- they want to call attention to their cause. I thought everyone understood that's how it worked?

No idea what the "make friends on Facebook" line even means.

Glad you identified the real culprits in this whole affair. Sure, no fine people at all among those protesting neo Nazis and white supremacists. Only bad dudes. Among the neo Nazis and white supremacists, lots of very fine people. Very, very fine people. Only the best people. Believe me.

Incredibly, you're willing to go even further than Trump into this hole. Even he had kind words (eventually) for the woman who was murdered by the very fine Nazi.
Y'know, i really didn't know what MikeT was talking about when he was claiming you went "full retard". Now I get it.

Don't launch into tirades based on YOUR mistaken assumption about what someone else says (especially when they're not talking to you) I wouldn't call you "retarded", but you're definitely looking for an argument...
8/16/2017 2:57 PM
I read your post, and the post you were responding to. What did I get wrong?

After reading a post about there being very fine people on both sides, you responded by challenging part of that post. Not the neo Nazi part, but the counter-protester part.

Mike's a lazy troll who I suspect doesn't believe half of what he posts. But you, todd, are a hateful nutcase. I'll go on thinking that, and you can think I'm a dumbass retard. I guess we're done.
8/16/2017 3:10 PM
Posted by crazystengel on 8/16/2017 3:11:00 PM (view original):
I read your post, and the post you were responding to. What did I get wrong?

After reading a post about there being very fine people on both sides, you responded by challenging part of that post. Not the neo Nazi part, but the counter-protester part.

Mike's a lazy troll who I suspect doesn't believe half of what he posts. But you, todd, are a hateful nutcase. I'll go on thinking that, and you can think I'm a dumbass retard. I guess we're done.
LOL, buh-bye.
8/16/2017 3:18 PM

Fox News' Shep Smith couldn't get any Republicans to come on Fox to defend Trump's racist comments

Smith: "Let's be honest, Republicans often don't really mind coming on Fox News Channel"

8/16/2017 4:03 PM
Posted by bronxcheer on 8/16/2017 4:03:00 PM (view original):

Fox News' Shep Smith couldn't get any Republicans to come on Fox to defend Trump's racist comments

Smith: "Let's be honest, Republicans often don't really mind coming on Fox News Channel"

That's because they'd have to show their faces. Easier to defend racism online while hiding behind an anonymous user name.
8/16/2017 4:12 PM
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