Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Alt-Right are the worst human beings in America. Period.
8/16/2017 5:04 PM
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Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
If you join a group of nazis to protest the removal of a confederate symbol, then yes, you are a bad person.
Sigh. Did EVERYONE there to protest the removal of a statue, join a group of nazis?
The nazis were the ones protesting the statue removal.
GODDAMMIT! WERE THEY THE ONLY ONES PROTESTING THE REMOVAL OF THE STATUE????

AND, BEFORE YOU DON'T REALLY ANSWER, ARE YOU SURE!??!??!?!
8/16/2017 5:18 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):
It's probably fair to say that there were indeed some "very fine people" on both sides.

It's probably also very certain the the percentage of "very fine people" differed vastly from one side to the other.
Not so sure. People that counter-demonstrate aren't looking to make Facebook friends. They're looking to start a ruckus, either for the media attention or the thrill of a riot.
You sound as crazy and incoherent as Trump himself (who you obviously do not support at all!). Most people protest for "media attention" -- they want to call attention to their cause. I thought everyone understood that's how it worked?

No idea what the "make friends on Facebook" line even means.

Glad you identified the real culprits in this whole affair. Sure, no fine people at all among those protesting neo Nazis and white supremacists. Only bad dudes. Among the neo Nazis and white supremacists, lots of very fine people. Very, very fine people. Only the best people. Believe me.

Incredibly, you're willing to go even further than Trump into this hole. Even he had kind words (eventually) for the woman who was murdered by the very fine Nazi.
OK, retard.

There are a hundred nazis across the street. They are armed with shields and clubs. What does a person NOT looking for trouble do?

A) cross the street, scream and spit at them?
B) avoid them?

If you choose A, are you not provoking violence? Is that better than the guy across the street with shields and clubs?
8/16/2017 5:22 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/16/2017 5:22:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):
It's probably fair to say that there were indeed some "very fine people" on both sides.

It's probably also very certain the the percentage of "very fine people" differed vastly from one side to the other.
Not so sure. People that counter-demonstrate aren't looking to make Facebook friends. They're looking to start a ruckus, either for the media attention or the thrill of a riot.
You sound as crazy and incoherent as Trump himself (who you obviously do not support at all!). Most people protest for "media attention" -- they want to call attention to their cause. I thought everyone understood that's how it worked?

No idea what the "make friends on Facebook" line even means.

Glad you identified the real culprits in this whole affair. Sure, no fine people at all among those protesting neo Nazis and white supremacists. Only bad dudes. Among the neo Nazis and white supremacists, lots of very fine people. Very, very fine people. Only the best people. Believe me.

Incredibly, you're willing to go even further than Trump into this hole. Even he had kind words (eventually) for the woman who was murdered by the very fine Nazi.
OK, retard.

There are a hundred nazis across the street. They are armed with shields and clubs. What does a person NOT looking for trouble do?

A) cross the street, scream and spit at them?
B) avoid them?

If you choose A, are you not provoking violence? Is that better than the guy across the street with shields and clubs?
"I'm no Trump fan, believe me, but.................................."
8/16/2017 5:26 PM
Answer is "Avoid that rally and stay home"
8/16/2017 5:33 PM
Exactly. Which was the FIRST thing I said. Volunteer at a Children's Hospital, old folk's home or animal shelter. Do something that makes a difference.
8/16/2017 5:35 PM
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Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
If you join a group of nazis to protest the removal of a confederate symbol, then yes, you are a bad person.
Sigh. Did EVERYONE there to protest the removal of a statue, join a group of nazis?
The nazis were the ones protesting the statue removal.
GODDAMMIT! WERE THEY THE ONLY ONES PROTESTING THE REMOVAL OF THE STATUE????

AND, BEFORE YOU DON'T REALLY ANSWER, ARE YOU SURE!??!??!?!
Dude you've asked like 8 times. This was a rally organized by Jason Kessler, a white nationalist. So yeah, everyone going to the rally knew that it was being organized by nazis. That makes everyone who attended bad people.
8/16/2017 5:38 PM
Giving these dumbasses (alt right) any publicity is just stupid. BTW the 100k figure was reported by CNN. There are according to the FBI ~ 100k white nationalists in the US. 100k too many but still less than half a percent of the country. Since most are inbred, they will hopefully all die off soon.
8/16/2017 5:40 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 8/16/2017 8:25:00 AM (view original):
Do you think there's a moral equivalency between groups such as neo-Nazi's and the KKK, and groups that oppose what neo-Nazi's and the KKK stand for?

Most people see a bigly difference between the two sides.

The Orange Buffoon seems to want to paint them with the same brush.
Wrong. Trump denounced white supremacists. He also correctly stated that ANYONE that results to violence is wrong.

Do you deny any of this?^^^


I'll post the statements from Trump if you'd like.



You already did. He called nazis very fine people.
This is where you lose credibility as you're using the same brush. He condemned nazis and then followed it up with "there were some very fine people on both sides." Which implies that everyone protesting the removal of the statue wasn't a nazi. And that's an accurate assessment. Stupid to say but accurate.
This.
Not accurate. People in that protest probably consider themselves good people and not-nazis, but they chose to march in a group spewing hate and nazi rhetoric. That makes them bad.
So, if you were protesting in Ferguson, MO, not destroying and burning **** but in the group that was, you were "bad people"?
Not necessarily.

But if you joined the nazi march, you're a bad person.
Was it a "march" or simply a walk, in a group of people, to the designated protest area interrupted by counter-protestors?
Just a walk.

With torches.

And swastikas.

And confederate flags.

And chants about jews and immigrants and minorities.




And we're back to "Are you sure those were the only groups protesting the removal of a statue?"

And, of course, seems like every picture I saw in Ferguson, MO at night was someone committing a crime. Therefore, is it safe to assume everyone out at night was a criminal? Therefore, "bad people"?
If you join a group of nazis to protest the removal of a confederate symbol, then yes, you are a bad person.
Sigh. Did EVERYONE there to protest the removal of a statue, join a group of nazis?
The nazis were the ones protesting the statue removal.
GODDAMMIT! WERE THEY THE ONLY ONES PROTESTING THE REMOVAL OF THE STATUE????

AND, BEFORE YOU DON'T REALLY ANSWER, ARE YOU SURE!??!??!?!
Dude you've asked like 8 times. This was a rally organized by Jason Kessler, a white nationalist. So yeah, everyone going to the rally knew that it was being organized by nazis. That makes everyone who attended bad people.
Fair enough.

EVERYONE knew looting, destroying property and rioting was happening in Ferguson, MO. Therefore, by your reasoning, anyone who went out to "protest" was a bad person. Hence, there were no "very fine people" protesting in Ferguson, MO.

Glad we cleared that up. And, for future reference, this will hold true any time a riot breaks out. Which, of course, means your tenet of "rioting can be acceptable" is no longer true.

Good talk.
8/16/2017 5:44 PM
Well said, Mike. Wow.
8/16/2017 5:45 PM
Lefties on their moral high ground....

This article sums up the fake news and the hypocrisy of the left.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2017/08/15/npr-skips-over-no-cops-chant-commies-they-rip-down-confederate-statue
8/16/2017 5:45 PM
Posted by moy23 on 8/16/2017 5:45:00 PM (view original):
Lefties on their moral high ground....

This article sums up the fake news and the hypocrisy of the left.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2017/08/15/npr-skips-over-no-cops-chant-commies-they-rip-down-confederate-statue
This is why DT refused to seriously slam the Alt-Right as he is at war with the Ludicrous Left but it was a huge mistake in this case.
8/16/2017 5:47 PM
Where is the lefty outrage over this

The same day, demonstrators in Durham, N.C., cheered as they used a lasso to topple a 15-foot statue of a Confederate soldier and started kicking its head.

“No cops, no KKK, no fascist USA!” and “We are the revolution!” they chanted.


Lumping cops in with the KKK it's pretty hateful, no? Interesting though... Mainstream media didn't report this (even though it was written on signs they were holding up) and the one news organisation that did report on this left out “No cops" when they reported on the chants.

8/16/2017 5:51 PM
8/16/2017 5:52 PM
Posted by moy23 on 8/16/2017 5:51:00 PM (view original):
Where is the lefty outrage over this

The same day, demonstrators in Durham, N.C., cheered as they used a lasso to topple a 15-foot statue of a Confederate soldier and started kicking its head.

“No cops, no KKK, no fascist USA!” and “We are the revolution!” they chanted.


Lumping cops in with the KKK it's pretty hateful, no? Interesting though... Mainstream media didn't report this (even though it was written on signs they were holding up) and the one news organisation that did report on this left out “No cops" when they reported on the chants.

Even Fox News didn't report that? At least I did not see it. The Ludicrous Left is really bad too but the Alt Right is worse.
8/16/2017 5:53 PM
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