Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Posted by bronxcheer on 8/17/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Bannon, Miller, and Gorka yer fired.

I quit
Lol
8/17/2017 1:34 PM
I will concede this. If you read that a white supremacist group was planning a march and you said "Oh goodie. Now I have something to do Saturday", there's a problem. I'm not going to condemn you as a racist, or a "bad person", but you need to question yourself.

I do not believe every person in Charlottesville that day was either a racist or counter-protestor.

Nor do I believe every person who wandered the streets of Ferguson was doing so to riot and loot.
8/17/2017 1:34 PM
Posted by bronxcheer on 8/17/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Bannon, Miller, and Gorka yer fired.

I quit
Whats wrong with Gorka?
8/17/2017 1:34 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/17/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
I will concede this. If you read that a white supremacist group was planning a march and you said "Oh goodie. Now I have something to do Saturday", there's a problem. I'm not going to condemn you as a racist, or a "bad person", but you need to question yourself.

I do not believe every person in Charlottesville that day was either a racist or counter-protestor.

Nor do I believe every person who wandered the streets of Ferguson was doing so to riot and loot.
Your pragmatic statements do not belong in this thread of subjectivity and close mindedness
8/17/2017 1:35 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 8/17/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
He can renounce anyone he wants. He also has a history of some racial segregation in his businesses. Actions always mean more than mere words.
So what should he do.... Should his actions be similar to Duterte in the Philippines and he should just have the police go in and start killing off white supremacists? There are laws in this country. All he has are words... Until they break the law they can say whatever they want, which is unfortunate but an important part of free speech.
8/17/2017 1:39 PM
Yea Boris. The majority of Arizonans (that voted for POTUS) voted for Trump. This state is predictably Republican lately (on a State and National level). I probably need to remind you that the majority of Arizonans voted for Barry Goldwater for President as well........... and on a State level we've had numerous idiots and crooks as governor-----(all Republicans!) more than one have had to resign due to corruption------- in fact in my own home area there are scads of Trump bumper-stickers on cars, and plenty of rich old "imported migrants" from other areas living behind gates in their gated exclusive communities, Then, of course, there are the REAL Arizonans, those that have lived here for decades and beyond (mostly hispanics and Indians!) who live in regular communities consisting of ramblers, and ranch homes, shacks and mobile homes/trailers who just go about their daily business, who generally thinks anyone rich and powerful are (quite obviously) the enemy, and who KNOW inherently not to trust liars and hucksters (most politicians and definitely guys like Chump!) telling us that they know what they're doing. We've long ago learned they haven't a clue what they're doing, they just want power. But we're obviously outnumbered by the rich imported blue-hairs and millionaires who've moved here. That's why Arizona is referred to as Mississippi West!

But, the weather is good, the scenery is better, and we still have enough space wherein you can live peacefully and not worry about what the stupid folks down the street are up to. We don't care what THEY do, that's their problem. That's been the primary attitude of old-time Arizonans forever! You easterners are crazy............ we know that because of where (and How!) you live.

Oh wait.............. It's nuts and 150 degrees here.......... stay away!

LB
8/17/2017 1:41 PM
Ha ha ha - yes it is super hot. And yes this country is very much divided.
8/17/2017 1:45 PM
Posted by moy23 on 8/17/2017 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 8/17/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
He can renounce anyone he wants. He also has a history of some racial segregation in his businesses. Actions always mean more than mere words.
So what should he do.... Should his actions be similar to Duterte in the Philippines and he should just have the police go in and start killing off white supremacists? There are laws in this country. All he has are words... Until they break the law they can say whatever they want, which is unfortunate but an important part of free speech.
Well so far unemployment is at an all time low and the economy is doing very well and I would guess people of all races and creeds are reaping the benefits. So he is doing something? IDK

Meanwhile Europe is a DISASTER. Man it is a tragedy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40965581

8/17/2017 1:48 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/17/2017 1:24:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 8/17/2017 8:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by warrior0510 on 8/17/2017 4:55:00 AM (view original):
Fine people in a crowd of fascists and racists?

That there are people that still defend Trump after his remarks about Charlottesville is beyond me.

If he needs some help, counseling, whatever in finding the right words he should listen to some of his republican friends:

We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity.

— Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) 15. August 2017

This is simple: we must condemn and marginalize white supremacist groups, not encourage and embolden them.

— Senator Todd Young (@SenToddYoung) 15. August 2017

Mr. President,you can't allow #WhiteSupremacists to share only part of blame.They support idea which cost nation & world so much pain 5/6

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) 15. August 2017
Trump handled it terribly. But there is no way that there weren't people there who were not white supremacists.
No way? Why?
For the exact same reason everyone protesting in Ferguson, MO weren't criminals. They were SURROUNDED by people looting, destroying property, stealing, etc, etc, but they stayed on the streets.

Are you going to put EVERYONE on the streets in Ferguson in the same category?

I think protesting/counter-protesting is stupid. But everyone who does it isn't doing it for the same reasons.
Two completely different situations.

People participating in the rioting in Ferguson were bad because they were rioting. People there but not participating in the rioting weren't necessarily bad people.

People participating in the nazi march were bad because they made the choice to participate in a nazi march. Even if violence hadn't broken out, they would still be bad people.
****. We went thru this.

Are you SURE that no one was there just to protest the removal of the statue? Say a local resident liked the statue. Just the beauty of it. Didn't even know who it was. Heard it was coming down and there was word of some protest. So he wandered down to view it one last time. HOLY ****!!!! NAZIS ON THE LEFT!!!! BLM ON THE RIGHT!!!! BOTH ARE ARMED!!!! THIS CAN'T BE GOOD!!!! I'M GETTING OUT OF HERE!!!

Too late. You're already a racist nazi because you were on the left side of the street. Might as well burn a cross and a make a shield.
But you left, though. So you didn't participate in the nazi march. Because you aren't a bad person.
8/17/2017 1:58 PM
Being a Nazi = Not OK
Yelling no cops = Not OK

Both sides left and right need to STFU and let us moderates run the country
8/17/2017 2:01 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/17/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bronxcheer on 8/17/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Bannon, Miller, and Gorka yer fired.

I quit
Whats wrong with Gorka?
He has ties to anti-semitic, right-wing groups in Hungary.
8/17/2017 2:04 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/17/2017 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Being a Nazi = Not OK
Yelling no cops = Not OK

Both sides left and right need to STFU and let us moderates run the country
Wait what?

You can't equate being a nazi to yelling about cops.
8/17/2017 2:05 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/17/2017 2:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/17/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bronxcheer on 8/17/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Bannon, Miller, and Gorka yer fired.

I quit
Whats wrong with Gorka?
He has ties to anti-semitic, right-wing groups in Hungary.
People who have worked with Gorka have said that he is not anti-Semitic. In February 2017 Congressman and Israel Allies Caucus Co-Chair Trent Franks called Gorka "the staunchest friend of Israel and the Jewish people."

8/17/2017 2:14 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/17/2017 2:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/17/2017 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Being a Nazi = Not OK
Yelling no cops = Not OK

Both sides left and right need to STFU and let us moderates run the country
Wait what?

You can't equate being a nazi to yelling about cops.
So you can equate Trump to Hitler and I cannot equate Nazis to those who yell F the police and no cops?

Please STFU yourself
8/17/2017 2:17 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/17/2017 2:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/17/2017 2:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/17/2017 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Being a Nazi = Not OK
Yelling no cops = Not OK

Both sides left and right need to STFU and let us moderates run the country
Wait what?

You can't equate being a nazi to yelling about cops.
So you can equate Trump to Hitler and I cannot equate Nazis to those who yell F the police and no cops?

Please STFU yourself
I never called Trump Hitler.
8/17/2017 2:20 PM
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