Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Bob, the Generals should be able to keep the Donald mostly in check. He is a CEO, that is how he thinks. Most decisions will be made below him.

Kelly appears to be running a tighter ship. Hopefully things settle down.
8/24/2017 5:49 PM
Posted by moy23 on 8/24/2017 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Just imagine if it's discovered that it wasn't Russia that provided wikileaks with the Podesta and DNC emails.... do Democrats even have a case that Trump colluded with Russia to win an election (which by the way is not illegal to do, even if he did)?

Is Russia the only country that can pull this off, or would pull it off? I mean China hacked the SSA a few years ago. Couldn't a lone hacker pull this off like gussifer did? What about a DNC insider like Seth Roth? Wikileaks said it wasn't Russia already. Hmmmm.


You just don't get it. Forget about russian collusion, even though they might still get him on that or for obstruction. I've been saying all along that they're ultimately gonna nail Chump for tax evasion and/or conspiracy to money laundering with russian mobsters. That's what's gonna get him and he KNOWS it!!!! And once Mueller and Co. let him know that they have the goods on him, Chump is gonna resign.
8/24/2017 5:51 PM
Good thing that! (more lanes out!) We could do to get rid of all the snowflakes (on BOTH sides) AND all the ostriches (mostly) on the right, who don't want to even deal with the unpleasant facts we know about........... much less the ones that will surprise us......... We're virtually rudderless, and we're hoping for somebody to tell us we're so great and special----when what we really need is some actual leader (like T.R.) who will tell us the truth and kick our collective ***** for being intellectually lazy and inattentive to reality.
8/24/2017 5:53 PM
And when one of your own inner circle flips on you and tells everything he knows, i.e., Manafort, its hard to characterize that as FAKE NEWS!!!!
8/24/2017 5:55 PM
I think the media frenzy only makes it worse. Folks need to chill, be concerned more about things they can do something about. View Washington as just another reality show. It will pass, just as Obama's 8 years did. The pendulum will continue to swing back and forth...
8/24/2017 6:00 PM
Put Norm MacDonald behind the podium. Or Belichick...a paycheck sent to see Bill do a briefing, wearing the hoodie.
8/24/2017 6:01 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 8/24/2017 5:47:00 PM (view original):
Wow Mike. How much damage? Weren't you the guy that was assigning some pretty significant blame for the loss of 600,000 Americans on poor leadership from Lincoln???

So which set of Generals do you think Chump was talking about when he said he knew MORE than the Generals...........??
Think it was the same bunch he has surrounding himself now???
I'm confused........ straighten me out a bit.
Either these Generals within the Chump palace are sycophants and morons who he engages in his "decision making" process or...........?

There has already been a silent coup and the Generals (in charge) just let the big mouth dolt (chumpie) think he's still in charge and I can rest easy because we've got competent leadership running things under the helm of Kelly, Mad Dog, Tillerson etal?

Which is it??

I'd prefer to not worry about my Grandkids future because the free world got conned by a charlatan and his media mavens!
So Trump will start a war? It's kind of hard to figure out what your nonsensical ramblings mean.

So straighten me out a little bit. What exactly MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE HARM do you think Trump is going to do? Ramble-free, if you don't mind.
8/24/2017 6:10 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
What MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE do you think Trump can do?

We've got this thing called "Checks and balances" in addition to THREE branches of government. Now I know the CRAZY left is yammering on about nuclear war but that's not real. That's just CRAZY left talk. So what horrible thing can Trump do?
You sound like someone who got the 6th grade explanation of how government works and nothing else. The executive branch has tons of autonomous power. Judicial appointments, agency directives, executive orders, prioritizing resources, etc. The only thing we've got working for us now is the fact that Trump is totally incompetent and doesn't actually care about governing. If he had a real agenda, or allowed someone with a real agenda to influence him, they could do a lot of damage.

They could completely **** up the environment, kill net neutrality, wreck foreign relations. There are no checks on those things.
Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
8/24/2017 6:11 PM
If you are on the same side as Bronxcheer....well I would pick a different side.And Mike is 100% correct. Trump or no Trump this country is divided. If you cannot see that you are either blind or an optimist. I think people should be able to believe what they want to believe without being vilified for it.
8/24/2017 6:13 PM
Posted by mixtroy on 8/24/2017 5:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 8/24/2017 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Just imagine if it's discovered that it wasn't Russia that provided wikileaks with the Podesta and DNC emails.... do Democrats even have a case that Trump colluded with Russia to win an election (which by the way is not illegal to do, even if he did)?

Is Russia the only country that can pull this off, or would pull it off? I mean China hacked the SSA a few years ago. Couldn't a lone hacker pull this off like gussifer did? What about a DNC insider like Seth Roth? Wikileaks said it wasn't Russia already. Hmmmm.


You just don't get it. Forget about russian collusion, even though they might still get him on that or for obstruction. I've been saying all along that they're ultimately gonna nail Chump for tax evasion and/or conspiracy to money laundering with russian mobsters. That's what's gonna get him and he KNOWS it!!!! And once Mueller and Co. let him know that they have the goods on him, Chump is gonna resign.
Lol... I bet you didn't know Obama was illegally wheeling and dealing with Tony Rezco, the same convicted felon that Blago was involved with. Look it up. Did Obama go down on any charges, no. He controlled the DOJ and the AG.

Out of 45 presidents, only ONE has been nailed for any kind of illegal activity... That I know of. That's about a 2% succuss rate.... While you may salivate over long shots I will take the safe bet.
8/24/2017 6:23 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 6:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
What MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE do you think Trump can do?

We've got this thing called "Checks and balances" in addition to THREE branches of government. Now I know the CRAZY left is yammering on about nuclear war but that's not real. That's just CRAZY left talk. So what horrible thing can Trump do?
You sound like someone who got the 6th grade explanation of how government works and nothing else. The executive branch has tons of autonomous power. Judicial appointments, agency directives, executive orders, prioritizing resources, etc. The only thing we've got working for us now is the fact that Trump is totally incompetent and doesn't actually care about governing. If he had a real agenda, or allowed someone with a real agenda to influence him, they could do a lot of damage.

They could completely **** up the environment, kill net neutrality, wreck foreign relations. There are no checks on those things.
Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
Any of the examples in the last paragraph are realistic.
8/24/2017 6:24 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 6:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
What MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE do you think Trump can do?

We've got this thing called "Checks and balances" in addition to THREE branches of government. Now I know the CRAZY left is yammering on about nuclear war but that's not real. That's just CRAZY left talk. So what horrible thing can Trump do?
You sound like someone who got the 6th grade explanation of how government works and nothing else. The executive branch has tons of autonomous power. Judicial appointments, agency directives, executive orders, prioritizing resources, etc. The only thing we've got working for us now is the fact that Trump is totally incompetent and doesn't actually care about governing. If he had a real agenda, or allowed someone with a real agenda to influence him, they could do a lot of damage.

They could completely **** up the environment, kill net neutrality, wreck foreign relations. There are no checks on those things.
Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
Any of the examples in the last paragraph are realistic.
So you don't know anything about baseball or how the Govt works. What do you know about?
8/24/2017 6:27 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 6:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
What MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE do you think Trump can do?

We've got this thing called "Checks and balances" in addition to THREE branches of government. Now I know the CRAZY left is yammering on about nuclear war but that's not real. That's just CRAZY left talk. So what horrible thing can Trump do?
You sound like someone who got the 6th grade explanation of how government works and nothing else. The executive branch has tons of autonomous power. Judicial appointments, agency directives, executive orders, prioritizing resources, etc. The only thing we've got working for us now is the fact that Trump is totally incompetent and doesn't actually care about governing. If he had a real agenda, or allowed someone with a real agenda to influence him, they could do a lot of damage.

They could completely **** up the environment, kill net neutrality, wreck foreign relations. There are no checks on those things.
Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
Any of the examples in the last paragraph are realistic.
So Bush had these same powers? Obama? I know you love you some Obama but what did Bush do, BY HIMSELF, that ****** up America?
8/24/2017 6:30 PM
You know, I give you more credit than dino's hysterical Chicken Little views but should I? Are you legitimately concerned that Trump will launch on nuke attack before anyone can stop him? Sign thousands of pieces of legislation on a Friday all-nighter? Really?
8/24/2017 6:36 PM
Only Congress can declare war. But let's not allow facts to get in the way. Truth is when Obama was in office he was just as polarizing but speaking out against him publicly got people labeled as racists so they didn't. Fact is he increased the country's debt by more than all the other prior presidents combined. He had never held a job in business and our relationship with Israel our only ally in the ME was at best strained.

Let's not act like he was an A+ POTUS. He also during his campaign utterly trashed HRC and then stated she was the most qualified person for the role? Seriously?

Here is what was said during his 08 campaign

"Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected. Now she's making false attacks against Barack Obama. The Washington Post says Clinton isn't telling the truth. She championed NAFTA, even though it has cost South Carolina thousands of jobs. And worst of all, it was Hillary Clinton who voted for George Bush's war in Iraq. Hillary Clinton. She'll say anything and change nothing. It's time to turn the page."

LOL - but she is the most qualified candidate?
8/24/2017 6:51 PM
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