Has anyone ever considered making "Going Pro" or "Desired Time in College" a preference? Could potentially add another aspect to recruiting.

Also has it ever been discussed on maybe allowing people to locate some of there AP points to players who are EE. Kind of like allocating AP in a persuasion tactic to make them stay another year? Could also see an option to spend recruiting budget on persuading players to stay. You could potentially keep a better player at the expense of signing a not so great player.

Any my thoughts are welcome.

The old NCAA Football games had this as a recruiting preference. I wouldn't mind seeing it in the interest of realism. The downside, though, is this would really only apply to the top recruits. A 2-star recruit wouldn't (or shouldn't) care about a school's ability to get him to the NBA.

It was brought up in Beta that there should be a preference about getting to the NBA and teams who have had EEs or players drafted would get boosted here. Just like Cal and his NBA factory at UK.

I don't remember why it didn't happen. I'm sure someone will post shortly and say why it's a terrible idea.

Posted by Benis on 9/7/2017 4:26:00 PM (view original):
It was brought up in Beta that there should be a preference about getting to the NBA and teams who have had EEs or players drafted would get boosted here. Just like Cal and his NBA factory at UK.

I don't remember why it didn't happen. I'm sure someone will post shortly and say why it's a terrible idea.

If I remember, that was one of the BETA suggestions that was made too late in the process for selbe to act upon. There were a lot of quality ideas that were treated in the same manner.

So what I've seen so far is there wasn't a legitimate reason for keeping this out of the game. Lets get some updates :)

Posted by gomiami1972 on 9/7/2017 4:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 9/7/2017 4:26:00 PM (view original):
It was brought up in Beta that there should be a preference about getting to the NBA and teams who have had EEs or players drafted would get boosted here. Just like Cal and his NBA factory at UK.

I don't remember why it didn't happen. I'm sure someone will post shortly and say why it's a terrible idea.

If I remember, that was one of the BETA suggestions that was made too late in the process for selbe to act upon. There were a lot of quality ideas that were treated in the same manner.

I don't remember exactly when it was suggested. But I'm pretty sure that the preferences Seble created from day 1 are exactly like they are now. He didn't want to change any of them at any time IIRC. He did modify the frequency of some prefs. Like when a player wants success and is ranked in top 100 but the categories never changed.

Once upon a time, when you could send coach calls during recruiting, you'd get responses from players that would indicate their desire to go pro/stay in college. They've been gone since at least 2012 but it used to be a thing.

Posted by Benis on 9/7/2017 4:26:00 PM (view original):
It was brought up in Beta that there should be a preference about getting to the NBA and teams who have had EEs or players drafted would get boosted here. Just like Cal and his NBA factory at UK.

I don't remember why it didn't happen. I'm sure someone will post shortly and say why it's a terrible idea.

I was the first one pushing for it in beta, that I know of. I suggested having it be paired against an academic preference. Call it a "future plans" preference. On one side, team GPA would positively influence guys who have an academic preference. On the other side, practice plan minutes for IQ growth would influence players with a "pro ball" preference, with big boosts from EE and overall draftees on a coaches resume. If it's pro ball, not just NBA, you could plausibly say even lower level recruits could realistically have the preference. Some guys may want to play oversees, some guys may want to coach (why I would base it on IQ focus and development, not solely on draftees).

The academic preference would make sense.

But the "go pro" preference would recreate the inherent advantage for baseline A+ schools that 3.0 was specifically designed to remove. I'm against it.

What if instead of creating a new preference, it was built into wanting playing time, meaning that all else being equal, a guy who wants playing time is more likely to want to go pro?

It would only apply if he is reasonably in a position to go pro -- i.e. a junior point guard for a Horizon League team who has an overall rating of 657 isn't going to go pro, even if he desired playing time when he was being recruited. But for the guys who are likely going to be on the big board in the future, it does make a difference.

Posted by kcsundevil on 9/8/2017 10:50:00 AM (view original):
The academic preference would make sense.

But the "go pro" preference would recreate the inherent advantage for baseline A+ schools that 3.0 was specifically designed to remove. I'm against it.

Good point.

Posted by kcsundevil on 9/8/2017 10:50:00 AM (view original):
The academic preference would make sense.

But the "go pro" preference would recreate the inherent advantage for baseline A+ schools that 3.0 was specifically designed to remove. I'm against it.

A+ teams aren't the only schools with players going pro.

D1 schools are. How about improving the game for 100% of the users instead of 1/3 of them?

There, benis. That will liven up the forum.

Posted by Benis on 9/8/2017 11:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by kcsundevil on 9/8/2017 10:50:00 AM (view original):
The academic preference would make sense.

But the "go pro" preference would recreate the inherent advantage for baseline A+ schools that 3.0 was specifically designed to remove. I'm against it.

A+ teams aren't the only schools with players going pro.

Never were. Hope you and Mike have fun hijacking another thread.

Not hijacking. Feel free to ignore me. But, when the talk of improvements affects not even 1/3 of the users, it's a tad annoying.

Big picture, kcsmallthinker.