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Posted by DoctorKz on 9/25/2017 5:51:00 AM (view original):
They have the right to protest. But there is something to be said for good and decent. People like that. You can disagree with policy, but do it without spitting on soldiers at the airport, as they return home from war, or burning a flag, or having your picture taken on an anti aircraft gun with a group of Viet Cong... Go about your protests the right way. Otherwise you risk alienating people...

For an example of DoctorZ s 'good and decent protests being done the right way', google 'Charlottesville protests'.

Where Liberals illegally interrupted a group's peaceful, legal rally with violence?
That's right, only Liberal groups are allowed to rally, according to them. Others' views are not welcome.
Hey, sounds just like this site.

Alt Right vs. Antifa

Loser vs. Loser

Agreed, but both groups have the same legal right to peaceably meet and express their views.
Who gets to decide which groups should not have those rights?
If someone is advocating equal rights for everyone, how can they also be trying to limit the rights of some others?

No one is saying that the NFL players who kneeled disrespect the patriots or that the KKK is not allowed to protest... PEACEFULLY. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it.

The problem is Trump calling the KKK 'nice people', and calling the NFL 'Sons of *******'

And the players are more talented than you will ever be.

No one is saying that the NFL players who kneeled disrespect the patriots or that the KKK is not allowed to protest... PEACEFULLY. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it.

The problem is Trump calling the KKK 'nice people', and calling the NFL 'Sons of *******'

And the players are more talented than you will ever be.

The KKK can protest, and so can the NFL. Trump could at least tell them, 'hey, I dont like the KKK or anything that they stand for, they are wrong, I don't want their votes.' Is that too much to ask?

Posted by all3 on 9/25/2017 11:22:00 AM (view original):
Agreed, but both groups have the same legal right to peaceably meet and express their views.
Who gets to decide which groups should not have those rights?
If someone is advocating equal rights for everyone, how can they also be trying to limit the rights of some others?

No one is arguing that. The NFL is not arguing that. Again, the problem is not that the KKK can protest, it is the president calling them 'nice people'.

Posted by DoctorKz on 9/25/2017 5:51:00 AM (view original):
They have the right to protest. But there is something to be said for good and decent. People like that. You can disagree with policy, but do it without spitting on soldiers at the airport, as they return home from war, or burning a flag, or having your picture taken on an anti aircraft gun with a group of Viet Cong... Go about your protests the right way. Otherwise you risk alienating people...

That is not comparable to what happened sunday. 9/24/17 will be remembered as the start of something amazing.

(Yes, I agree that locking arms is a better way to protest.)

Kneeling was never about the soldiers. It was about not bowing down to overlord trump. Who feels like he can do whatever he wants, even kill the NFL with one tweet. Guess what: This was the best thing that happened to the NFL in a long time.

Posted by all3 on 9/25/2017 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Anyone who truly can't see respecting this Country's, or any other Country's National Anthem, is important has not been raised properly.
"Funny" how much better ways of said protest, like locking arms or staying in the locker room, which don't show disrespect, have already pretty much taken over from the disrespectful kneeling.
If you still can't imagine why all the complaints about a simple kneeling, go to North Korea, or China, or Russia, and have a resident kneel during that Country's National Anthem and see what happens.

Try raising your own kids not everybody else's.........

Your comment is an excellent demonstration of what and WHY the U.S. of A. ( and our Constitution) is the greatest Nation on earth.
Too bad 63 million americans are so stupid they don't even understand what makes it great and our people different (FREE-- at least when it comes to speech). Apparently the good Doc (and a few others) have forgotten all about Pat Tillman (former NFL player) and what he gave his career and LIFE for!

In case you need reminding......... it was so any of us (Creep or Not!) could speak peacefully in protest----- especially against what they perceive as injustice or governmental tyranny!

Those condemning the NFL players (or anyone else) who kneel in peaceful silent protest during the national anthem are un-american themselves and extremely poor representatives of a true conservative!

Pat Tillman would be spinning in his grave over a POTUS demanding citizens lose their jobs for peaceful actions of protest!
Shame on anyone espousing such a belief in nazi tyranny!

I have a procedural question. Where is Gen. Kelly? Was he away this weekend? I thought his job was to keep the chump doped up and off twitter.........
Now he went and done picked another fight with another portion of the constituency with his big mouth, tiny finger twitting............

Who the HELL is in charge?

Now you did it Bob. You used the word Nazi. cccp is now going to call you an anti-Semite and question the value of any thing else you say.Sorry, I have been there

Posted by all3 on 9/25/2017 10:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by sjpoker on 9/25/2017 8:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 9/25/2017 5:51:00 AM (view original):
They have the right to protest. But there is something to be said for good and decent. People like that. You can disagree with policy, but do it without spitting on soldiers at the airport, as they return home from war, or burning a flag, or having your picture taken on an anti aircraft gun with a group of Viet Cong... Go about your protests the right way. Otherwise you risk alienating people...

For an example of DoctorZ s 'good and decent protests being done the right way', google 'Charlottesville protests'.

Where Liberals illegally interrupted a group's peaceful, legal rally with violence?
That's right, only Liberal groups are allowed to rally, according to them. Others' views are not welcome.
Hey, sounds just like this site.

Oh right. It was the liberals who started all the violence. Thanks for clearing that up #the30yeardemocrat

Comrade cccp can lick my salty nuts

Posted by bronxcheer on 9/25/2017 12:31:00 PM (view original):
Comrade cccp can lick my salty nuts

I am sure he would enjoy that

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Posted by all3 on 9/23/2017 8:20:00 PM (view original):
For my amusement, why don't you explain how sitting or kneeling during the National Anthem says "I'm protesting racism.".

Speaking of pokers' rantings, even he's smart enough not to try to explain this.

Its along the lines of "I'm not celebrating a country that does not represent all of its citizens."

You can go back to being an ignorant idiot again.

So two wrongs make a right? Because one feels disrespected they disrespect those that have ACTUALLY GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES so that these players can play a game they enjoy, and make millions doing it....

They might as well throw a party at Arlington cemetery and just trample on the dead bodies there

Sitting during the anthem is a stupid way to protest and they should be fired for being such horrible human beings.

You do realize those that gave up their lives, did so to protect your (and anyone else's) right to kneel during the national anthem. I was never clear on how it is disrespecting veterans to use one of the freedoms they were defending for you. By saying those who are protesting should be fired, or arrested, or hindered in any way shape or form from exersising the constitutional rights our military fights to protect is what is disrespectful.

Alejandro Villanueva does a nice job explaining it (and his jersey sales are skyrocketing since yesterday):

He is a U.S. Army veteran who served in Afghanistan. He abandoned his team, the Pittsburgh Steelers, as they hid in the locker room during the national anthem in protest.

“I agree that America is not perfect, I agree there are lot of issues with minorities in this country, I agree we should do something about it.

But I don’t know if the most effective way is to sit down when the national anthem of the country that is providing you freedom and providing you $60 million a year is the best way to do it when there are black minorities that are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan and protecting our freedom for less than $20,000 a year.

I just know I’m very thankful to be an American. I will stand very proudly and sing every single line of the national anthem every single time I hear it. I will stop whatever I’m doing because I recognize I have to be very thankful to be in this country.

I tell my teammates all the time, especially when they talk about contracts, I’m one of the cheapest left tackles in the NFL [but] just by being an American I’ve won three lotteries. And if you have a little money on top of me, that means I have 3½ lotteries.

I’ve been very fortunate to travel a lot and see what it’s like in different countries. I’ve experienced true racism that happens in Europe with a lot of minorities. It’s very difficult for me to be here in America, as grateful as I am, in the best country in the world, and have people not be pleased about it.

I think he's (Kaepernick) obviously upset and I think we all agree, the majority of America would agree, there's an issue with minorities in our country, the way some groups in our population are being treated.

I just think not standing up for America is a little bit unfair on his part because he's not taking into consideration the minorities that are fighting for the flag, like myself, the thousands of people who lay their lives so he can express himself.”

Also in an interview with ESPN, he said:

“Whenever you include an entire country in one of those protests, I think you might mislead some people who truly wake up every single morning trying to give everything, including their lives, to protect this country. It's a little bit unfair to group everybody under that category.”

not sure that responds at all to my statement. I never said it was the most effective way to protest. I also didn't say whether I approved of the way they were protesting. I just said they have every right to do so, and I don't see it as disrespecting the members of our military. By telling someone not to use one of the freedoms the military fights to protect is disrespecting those that fight for those freedoms. At least that is the way I see it.